Thread: Waiting for Moderna?

From what I read, I will only be able to hold off a moderna appointment for 3 months until it’s expiry date.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

From what I read, I will only be able to hold off a moderna appointment for 3 months until it’s expiry date.

Moderna is a superior vaccine to pfizer (antibodies don't wane as much over time) — choose it, if you have a choice, IMO.

6 months between the initial 2 shots and the booster is the advice I hear.

BTW ... no-one in these parts, forum or where I live are discussing the J&J vaccine?

Originally Posted by David48atTD

THE BEST VACCINE IS THE ONE YOU CAN GET TODAY

Yup...

Originally Posted by David48atTD

BTW ... no-one in these parts, forum or where I live are discussing the J&J vaccine?

Spent a few minutes looking around, took a while to find it, but the JJ vaccine is simply not heavily distributed in this part of the world. It is distributed to 66 countries (compare with astra which goes to 181 countries), mostly in the Americas, Africa and Europe (this link, towards the bottom of the page):


Covid World Vaccination Tracker - The New York Times

^ Thanks for that Nid.

I'm not a subscriber, thus can't read the article.

But, if it's not distributed much in Thailand or where I live, not much point discussing it.

Just thought it was different because, from memory, it was a 'one jab' vaccine.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

thank god they're bringing it up now

Report title and date published 02/11/21 top of the post, along with the source.

Whether you wish to know about it is your choice.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

Just thought it was different because, from memory, it was a 'one jab' vaccine.

Yes. it is.

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

From what I read, I will only be able to hold off a moderna appointment for 3 months until it’s expiry date.

My mate sold his when they started giving out free Pfizers.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Report title and date published 02/11/21 top of the post, along with the source.

Whether you wish to know about it is your choice.

In your childish rush to post it (and lie about it on other threads), you obviously didn't read any of it.

Originally Posted by David48atTD

^ Thanks for that Nid.

I'm not a subscriber, thus can't read the article.

But, if it's not distributed much in Thailand or where I live, not much point discussing it.

Just thought it was different because, from memory, it was a 'one jab' vaccine.

It is, and a "one jab" booster is recommended as well because, like the others, it was made pre-Delta.

^ Wait wait...Are the post Delta vaccines different in some way? I just had my third Pfizer last Friday (thank you Saudi MoH). I'd be up for a weekly jab if that was what it would take to rid ourselves of this bastard virus.

Originally Posted by happynz

Originally Posted by happynz

like the others, it was made pre-Delta.

^ Wait wait...Are the post Delta vaccines different in some way?

He just means that delta necessitated a booster shot.

The boosters are the same vaccines, with Moderna being a half dose, apparently.

Originally Posted by happynz

^ Wait wait...Are the post Delta vaccines different in some way? I just had my third Pfizer last Friday (thank you Saudi MoH). I'd be up for a weekly jab if that was what it would take to rid ourselves of this bastard virus.

Delta showed a significant increase in transmissibility, and that's why Boosters became a thing.

Originally Posted by happynz

^ Wait wait...Are the post Delta vaccines different in some way? I just had my third Pfizer last Friday (thank you Saudi MoH). I'd be up for a weekly jab if that was what it would take to rid ourselves of this bastard virus.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Delta showed a significant increase in transmissibility, and that's why Boosters became a thing.

Agreeing that "Delta showed a significant increase in transmissibility" but I have a different understanding of the need for the Booster Shot.

Searched google for efficacy curve of a covid vaccine vs time ... got the below from the Financial Times

Is this the waning of immunity over time?

It could be that declining efficacy is caused by waning immunity, supporting the argument for a third shot.
Studies have shown antibody levels decline over time although scientists have not identified the level where they stop being protective.
Other parts of the immune system, such as the harder-to-monitor T-cells, also play a role in fighting the virus.

Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Ah, I see.

^^ Bit of both really. Waning antibodies for early vaccinated + breakthrough infections even in the newly vaccinated = Booster shot.

This article is interesting, analyzing studies from the mayo clinic, the CDC, etc.

Moderna vs. Pfizer: Is There a “Best” mRNA Vaccine? | The Scientist Magazine(R)

Moderna vs. Pfizer: Is There a “Best” mRNA Vaccine?

Both of the mRNA vaccines available in the US are highly effective against severe COVID-19, but recent studies suggest that Moderna’s elicits a stronger immune response and might be better at preventing breakthrough infections.


Research published in recent weeks, however, suggests the Moderna vaccine’s advantage in terms of long-term protection. In multiple independent studies, significantly lower antibody levels and more vaccine breakthrough infections have been detected in the Pfizer/BioNTech-vaccinated population. These could be explained by a myriad of slight differences between the vaccines themselves: their distinct dosages, the intervals between the two doses, or the composition of the lipid nanoparticles used in each one. For now, all possibilities remain open.

Covid infections: unvaccinated vs. pfizer vs moderna:

Glad to see this thread is being occupied by a smart bunch of people. So sick of reading anti-vaxx bullshit. mRNA technology is awesome and is the future of medicine. I once invested in a Bio company in the early 00's. They were trying to use mRNA to hunt down and kill HIV cells before they could multiple.

Back to the topic in hand. My partner has gotten her que number, 500k odd. Still, better than 1million. As someone else stated before, I think whatever western vaccine you can get your hands on just take it. I wouldn't trust the Chinese vaccines with a barge poll. I don't think they are poisonous if made correctly but in China you just know someone somewhere will be undercutting the manufacturing process to make a few extra bucks. I do not trust the CCP when they say they are in full control of the manufacturing etc balls.

I flew back to the UK to get my two Pfizer jabs, a costly journey but I did not want to have to wait around. First jab I had a very stuffy face/ blocked nose thing going on. 2nd time nothing. Both times arm pain.

Chok dee krap

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

From what I read, I will only be able to hold off a moderna appointment for 3 months until it’s expiry date.

At my hospital, they've offered putting off the second Moderna dose until next year, if desired.

One can also transfer doses to another person, if they want — according to government policy, apparently.

Jab orders on track for transfer

He said those who have made a booking are free to reschedule their appointment and/or nominate someone else to take their place.

One of my friends just got a bad reaction from his first dose of Moderna. Heart palpitations and rotten feeling, fatigue. He is 70 but very healthy.

In a study of 2.3 million, only two got this reaction after he first dose. Thirteen after the second.