View Poll Results: Which Covd-19 Vaccine have you had?

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  • Moderna

    8 9.64%
  • Pfizer-BioNTech

    31 37.35%
  • Janssen (Johnson & Johnson)

    0 0%
  • Astra-Zeneca

    33 39.76%
  • Russian Sputnik - umm - 'vaccine'

    3 3.61%
  • Chinese Sinovac - umm - 'vaccine'

    5 6.02%
  • Any 'new' vaccines not mentioned above

    3 3.61%
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    ^My point is the word vaccine (to me) means your fully protected, couldn't give a fuck if booster shots are needed or not down the road but as long as you're vaccinated you are typically NOT going to be catching the disease you're vaccinated against during your entire life span. This rule most definitely does NOT apply to what they're calling "Covid vaccines"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Moderna that should be arriving between Jan and Mar next year.
    That's also what I was told when paying for 7 doses some weeks ago. Got my 2nd AZ jab today btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^My point is the word vaccine (to me) means your fully protected, couldn't give a fuck if booster shots are needed or not down the road but as long as you're vaccinated you are typically NOT going to be catching the disease you're vaccinated against during your entire life span. This rule most definitely does NOT apply to what they're calling "Covid vaccines"
    This is actually a myth. Very few vaccines are able to achieve total protection against infection:

    Coronavirus: few vaccines prevent infection – here's why that's not a problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^My point is the word vaccine (to me)
    It actually doesn't matter what it means "to you".

    The point of the vaccines is to stimulate enough of a response that it prevents the disease or limits its ability to infect, and that has the added effect of stopping the spread. If really good at what it does, it stops the virus altogether because it runs out of places to spread.

    The body's immune system changes over time, so even natural immunity can wane (look at the Herpes family: You can and people do get chicken pox, shingles etc. more than once).

    The problem with this virus is it mutates quite a lot and while there are lots of infections, there are lots of opportunities for the virus to mutate exponentially, and if the right (or probably wrong is the better word) set of mutations hit it off together, we might have a new variant that can defeat current vaccines.

    The one thing we have going for us is the speed at which we can create new vaccines *if* the resources used to develop, manufacture and distribute them are improved (they obviously need improving) and more importantly are kept ready to go in the future.

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    ...SD and I received our 2nd AZ shots today: a fairly efficient process in which I also acquired a "psudo"-13 digit government ID number...the data entry woman said it's easier to enter data if she makes up a number and enters it in the system. It allows me to download proof of vaccination to an app and entitles me to a vaccination "passport" issued at a Bang Rak hospital. According to the data entry clerk, I will need both to fly...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    It's just a 13 digit number. She's blowing smoke up your ass to make it seem more special. Everyone has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    Everyone has it.
    ...apparently not...another farang was issued a false 13-digit number to enter into the app shortly after I received mine...

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    That will be one of my questions when I get my second shot....how do I get an official document showing I'm vaccinated for travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    how do I get an official document showing I'm vaccinated for travel.
    bureaucracies around the world are salivating at the prospect of endless committees to make up byzantine rules for this purpose

    hopefully they get kicked in the nuts and a simple cryptographic certificate which gets created and signed by approved authorities which displays your photo , name , vaccine and dates of stabbing so that just showing your passport or drivers licence / photo ID is all that is required for the cert to be retrieved from a blockchain and indicate your status

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    ^ Another document in the system which will only serve to complicate what formally was an uncomplicated procedure.

    Maybe a tattoo on ones forehead will be less complicated. "YES, I RELENTED AND WAS STABBED TWICE" could work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    That will be one of my questions when I get my second shot....how do I get an official document showing I'm vaccinated for travel.
    Someone must be keeping records where you are.

    We brought our CDC cards with us to Thailand along with a printout from the place we received the injections.

    That printout has dates, type, lot numbers, etc

    Hers from Walmarts (1 page) and mine from the hospital where I received the injections (about 10 pages).

    edit: Everyone was happy (Thai Embassy in Washington, Qatar Airways and Thai Immigration at Suvarnabhumi) with the proof/support.
    Last edited by S Landreth; 23-09-2021 at 05:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Another document in the system which will only serve to complicate what formally was an uncomplicated procedure.
    yes - so maybe they should just ask and then take the persons word - no need for recording anything

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    ^ On the Thailand arrival card there is a series of questions asking whether you have visited South Africa or are suffering from a particular disease among other Yes or No health questions. They trusted the answers given before so why not now regarding whether you have been jabbed or not.

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    Picked up my Thai International Certificate book today. So, now have this (they kept the paper domestic certificate that I was issued with after my second vax on Saturday.



    There are 9 pages in the book, these are pages 2 and 3.



    The Mor Prom app on my phone, with the main/menu page.



    and the Covid 19 Vaccine Certificate page:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    ^ On the Thailand arrival card there is a series of questions asking whether you have visited South Africa or are suffering from a particular disease among other Yes or No health questions. They trusted the answers given before so why not now regarding whether you have been jabbed or not.
    Because if South Africa is on the red list you ain't getting anywhere near giving them an arrival card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Picked up my Thai International Certificate book today.
    Where did you pick it up from Pag? I've got a similar book but with International Certificate of Vaccination on the front cover instead of the Covid-19 Certification of Vaccination you have on yours and I know they weren't stamping the one I have with Covid vacc (a few friends tried). Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Where did you pick it up from Pag? I've got a similar book but with International Certificate of Vaccination on the front cover instead of the Covid-19 Certification of Vaccination you have on yours and I know they weren't stamping the one I have with Covid vacc (a few friends tried). Thanks.
    Your "International Certificate of Vaccination" is probably that used for such as Yellow Fever etc. This is the Thai, Covid-19 specific certificate which will be issued by the Public Health Office of the district/Province where you were vaccinated (at least that's how it should work). Both my doses were administered in the JungCeylon shopping mall in Patong, and after the second I was given a stamped and QR coded certificate for domestic use. I asked about a vaccine passport for international use, and was told I could get it from Patong Hospital or the Public Health Department in Phuket Town. I went to Patong Hospital, handed over my domestic certificate and a copy of my passport and was told 5 days (today) to get the new one. That worked, and with a small cost of 50 baht only.

    I'm aware of other people who have tried to get their Yellow Fever type certificate stamped for Covid vax, and have been refused also.

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    I finally received my first Covid jab in Norway yesterday I had a choice of Moderna or Pfizer, but opted for the Pfizer as my second wshot will be in the UK and I think Pfizer is more readily available and I'm not sure how open to micing vaccines the UK is, or how mixed vaccines reflect on obtaining the fully vaccinated status. My arm is a little sore around the injection site but nothing much.

    I have heard from Korat that my daughter's school is demanding that all 10 year olds and above must be vaccinated to enable the school to re-open and for my daughter to return to lessons. The school is organising vaccinations for both pupils and parents which will almost certainly be Sinopharm. The whole thing seems mixed up, and while not seeing the need for a 10 year-old to be vaccinated, I'm of the feeling that if that is necessary to get her back to proper lessons then so be it. She's been at home and isolated from her schoolmates since the end of June.

    I've asked the wife to try and organise Pfizer for both her and the daughter since there's not much point at waving your Sinopharm certificate at European immigration officers, but I doubt this will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    ^My point is the word vaccine (to me) means your fully protected, couldn't give a fuck if booster shots are needed or not down the road but as long as you're vaccinated you are typically NOT going to be catching the disease you're vaccinated against during your entire life span. This rule most definitely does NOT apply to what they're calling "Covid vaccines"

    I got the measles when I was a LITTLE KID, never had a vaccine

    In fact, just remembered, I worked right next to a guy in 1996, he was about 8 years older, he had to take time off got "the Mumps" his neck started to swell up over a couple of days. we made jokes about how his neck was getting thicker. don't know if he was vaxxed before, just that he was an older guy, I think my mom and dad used to take us to parties to get measles and shit like that when we where tiny.
    Last edited by havnfun; 24-09-2021 at 12:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Picked up my Thai International Certificate book today
    ...green owed: this is what SD and I will be doing next week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topper View Post
    That will be one of my questions when I get my second shot....how do I get an official document showing I'm vaccinated for travel.
    You need to go to the Bureau of Quarantine website, pay the fee, upload the files needed and schedule for an appointment to get your yellow card in person. In the Visayas region, there's only Cebu (for now). In the news, it said that BOQ will have more offices (one in Iloilo) in the provinces "soon".

    The yellow BOQ card is similar to the one by PAG. It's approved by WHO and will be accepted internationally. The vax card given by your town will be OK for travelling within PH but many countries don't accept it (that's why OFWs are getting the yellow card).

    From my sources, OFWs and those with flight tickets (needed ASAP) are the priority. The nearest open schedule is for November (for the personal appearance). I suggest that once you get your 2nd dose, schedule with BOQ soon because you'll be in a long queue.

    In Luzon, there are 2 offices of BOQ: the main one near port area and a branch in Mall of Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnfun View Post
    I got the measles when I was a LITTLE KID, never had a vaccine

    In fact, just remembered, I worked right next to a guy in 1996, he was about 8 years older, he had to take time off got "the Mumps" his neck started to swell up over a couple of days. we made jokes about how his neck was getting thicker. don't know if he was vaxxed before, just that he was an older guy, I think my mom and dad used to take us to parties to get measles and shit like that when we where tiny.
    I'm more inclined to think it was encephalitis to be honest.

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    I have been summoned for my third Pfizer.

    Apparently I have to bring evidence of being in a high risk group.

    Now, where did I put those extra kilos?

    Aha.

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    Third Pfizer-BioNTech . . . should have added another category in the poll. When did you have your second?


    It's interesting how fluid the whole thing is . . . initially we were just interested in the first jab, then the second was chased and now the third is reality for some while others still wait for the second or even the first.
    Last edited by panama hat; 29-09-2021 at 03:26 AM.

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    Not to piss on anyone’s bonfire, but these so called International Covid Passports, surely cannot possibly have any authority to allow international travel?

    The travel restrictions are unique to every sovereign nation, and airlines will not allow individuals to board an aircraft if the destination does not recognize a locally produced certificate. Language and translation aside, most first world countries will only accept a gigital certificate, but only if prior acceptance has been granted.

    Countries like Thailand, Indonesia and Philippines have no authority to produce such certificates, hand written or digital, other than to approve domestic travel!

    The world is a long way off introducing such a passport, until all countries approve one. The WHO has no such authority to approve travel either!

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