Taking out the trash, aussie style

**sabang** · 13-03-2021, 08:33 AM

A little known fact is that these days, Australia is a nett exporter of convicts.

Dutton barks, New Zealand fumes, Australia shrugs

Imagine if Peter Dutton and Nine News stirred up a trans-Tasman diplomatic stoush and nobody in Australia cared?

On Tuesday Nine was given exclusive access by Australian Border Force to a normally secret deportation flight taking convicted criminals from Brisbane to Auckland. Reporter Jordan Fabris harangued deportees on the tarmac in truly classless tabloid style.

“How does it feel to be kicked out of Australia?” he asked.

Nine then featured Dutton offering up his own bit of typical jingoistic chest-thumping.

“It’s taking the trash out, then we can make Australia a safer place,” Dutton said.

The soundbite has been met with fury among politicians and the media in New Zealand, where Australia’s post-2014 policy of deporting New Zealand citizens convicted of crimes, even if they are long-term residents of Australia, is a real sore point.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has previously said the policy is “corrosive” to the relationship. And given that history, Dutton’s recent comment was always going to enrage the Kiwis.

The political response

Ardern was as diplomatic as she could be in the face of the starchy tuber’s comments, saying she didn’t want to get into “tit for tat”.

Other politicians were more blunt. Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta said Dutton’s comments “only serve to trash his own reputation”. COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins got in a bit of trouble for accusing Australia of “exporting its garbage” to New Zealand.

He later stepped back from calling deportees garbage, saying that was Dutton’s language, but did call the Australian government’s actions “deplorable”.

NZ Opposition Leader Judith Collins said the relationship between Australia and New Zealand was the worst it had been in many years.

“We cannot be the dumping ground for everything wrong that’s happened in Australia with people and criminal behaviour,” she said.

Why are they so mad?

You might’ve guessed it, but New Zealand is pretty mad about Australia’s deportations. That’s because the deportees, called 501ers in New Zealand after the relevant section of the Migration Act, are often people who left New Zealand as children and spent most of their life in Australia before committing a crime.

Since returning to New Zealand, some deportees have been involved in notorious underworld gangs, while others, alienated from their networks in Australia, have been plagued by unemployment, depression and suicide.

Despite Dutton’s demonising of deportees, many are people with non-violent drug offences, who are now being sent back to a foreign country, and harassed by Nine reporters on the way out the door.

It’s little wonder Dutton’s comments were also big news over the ditch. The New Zealand Herald called them “incendiary”.

“Yet another crack in the increasingly fraught Trans-Tasman relationship,” wrote one journalist on Newshub.

A PR expert told the Newshub it was yet another example of Dutton playing to the domestic Australian audience.

“They love it over there. It’s the same thing as Christmas Island — put the boot in,” she said.

In Stuff it was spun as Scott Morrison responding to the never ending pressure over the Christian Porter rape allegations with a spot of Kiwi-bashing.

If only the domestic media cared enough to make that true.

This week, Scott Morrison hasn’t faced a single question about the deportation issue. It’s a sign that while New Zealand is furious, Australia simply does not care.

Dutton barks, New Zealand fumes, Australia shrugs (msn.com)

So what do you think- Right, or wrong? Personally, I'm OK with it as long as the same standards apply to criminal refugees from other convict colonies, such as Somalia, Pacific Islands, Nigeria, South Sudan and pommyland.

Actually the father of probably Autralia's most famous AFL star, Dusty Martin, is one of these- he's been deported back to NZ, and has to watch his son play aussie rules- and lift up the Grand final trophy- on replay, in a rugby mad country. ( needless to say, he's a scumbag.)

**Simon43** · 13-03-2021, 09:15 AM

Am I missing something here? They are convicted criminals with New Zealand nationality. So kick them out of Australia. What's the problem here?

**Little Chuchok** · 13-03-2021, 09:22 AM

^ Quite a few have been living in Australia since they were very young. (As in 2-6 years old) So they are home grown, so to speak. Their parents were a bit remiss in not getting Aussie passports.

Apart from that, no problem with it.

**sabang** · 13-03-2021, 09:32 AM

Wot 'e said. There was one sob story being flogged by the media about some scumbag who had come to Oz so young he didn't even remember NZ, and knew no family there. Sob. Guess he'll find some mates in the Mongrel Mob.

**Iceman123** · 13-03-2021, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Simon43

Am I missing something here? They are convicted criminals with New Zealand nationality. So kick them out of Australia. What's the problem here?

Yes the bone of contention for NZ, UK, India etc is that the deportees can have been raised in Australia since they were a young child. Their mistake was not to take out Aussie Citizenship but merely to remain as permanent residents.

They are bundled back to the country of their birth usually upon release from prison. They have virtually no connection with the land of their birth.

Not just an Aussie policy, but appears to be more common in Australia due to the amount of migrants Australia has accepted over the years

Possibly a warning for you in there as well, do not commit any lewd acts with your sex doll in public. She would be deported back to China in a heartbeat.

**Iceman123** · 13-03-2021, 09:37 AM

Australia to deport mass killer to UK | The Independent | The Independent

I was in Scotland when this sack of shit was deported, made big news - no connection remaining with Scotland, was a burden on UK Social security system.

**panama hat** · 13-03-2021, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Simon43

Am I missing something here? They are convicted criminals with New Zealand nationality. So kick them out of Australia. What's the problem here?

Absolutely. Most Kiwis don't have an issue with Australia kicking them out, though they hate the idea (understandably) of having more crims on the streets.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

^ Quite a few have been living in Australia since they were very young. (As in 2-6 years old) So they are home grown, so to speak. Their parents were a bit remiss in not getting Aussie passports.

Apart from that, no problem with it.

True, but many also have been there a few years or more - point is they can apply and get Aussie citizenship, but were too lazy, thick, tight-arsed etc... to do so.

Ardern started this crap by blindsiding ScoMo about his immigration policy at a news conference in front of the Opera House last year(?) and constantly going on about it after . . . Screw her. She can hand it out but is 'cringworthingly' incapable of taking criticism.

**Ukan Kizmiaz** · 14-03-2021, 02:43 PM

perhaps they'll send back that shit-head that did the mass murder - wasn't he an aussie. I'd be happy if they just dropped him half way between Oz and NZ and he can swim the rest.

As a principle - don't all countries do this - LOS, if you did a jail time crime wouldn't you be turfed out as soon as you were released?

**sabang** · 14-03-2021, 04:03 PM

perhaps they'll send back that shit-head that did the mass murder

I'm sure they will, if he's ever released. Or lives long enough.

**panama hat** · 15-03-2021, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz

As a principle - don't all countries do this

Yes, but Ardern is politicising it to the extreme.

Originally Posted by sabang

Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta said Dutton’s comments “only serve to trash his own reputation”. COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins got in a bit of trouble for accusing Australia of “exporting its garbage” to New Zealand.

He later stepped back from calling deportees garbage, saying that was Dutton’s language, but did call the Australian government’s actions “deplorable”.

This Nanaia thing is deplorable . . . vile and seriously unqualified, easily Ardern's least appropriate ministerial choice even among Laborites.

And the Hipkins 'garbage' hissy-fit was quickly relegated to a footnote while the Dutton quote was continuously bandied about.

**sabang** · 16-03-2021, 11:34 AM

'Rogue nation': anger in New Zealand after Australia deports teenager

Pressure is mounting within New Zealand for the government to condemn Australia as a “rogue nation” in breach of human rights following the deportation of a 15-year-old boy.

The minor was sent to New Zealand under the controversial 501 policy by which the Australian government has been deporting non-citizens determined to have a “substantial criminal record” under a character test within the Australian Migration Act.

Australia’s home affairs minister, Peter Dutton, last week described the transfer of deportees across the Tasman as “taking the trash out” in order to “make Australia a safer place” – triggering a political backlash within New Zealand.

'Rogue nation': anger in New Zealand after Australia deports teenager (msn.com)

**panama hat** · 16-03-2021, 03:59 PM

^ the nasty bint Ardern said she was "left in the dark" about this deportation . . . until the useless foreign minister Nanaia admitted that she had been informed of this by Australian authorities several weeks ago.

The Greens have been going gangbusters against Australia and are now left with egg on their faces as well as Ardern.

As the leader of the ACT political party said recently . . . "Ardern's first reaction to anything is to blame Australia".

Ardern lost 15% approval in the latest polls, but is still in the low 40s . . . but the shine is fading the more she is confronted by issues she can't control

Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta was notified about the boy who would be deported to New Zealand by the Australian Government "some weeks ago".But she has warned people not to assume the 15-year old minor was a 501 deportee.
Both she and Deputy Prime Minister Grant Robertson wouldn't elaborate much on the situation other than to say it is "complex".
This comes as the Green Party ramped up its attacks on the Australian Government, with its foreign affairs spokeswoman Golriz Ghahraman saying the country is behaving like a "rogue nation".

Foreign Affairs Minister Nanaia Mahuta learned of 15-year old who was deported '''some weeks ago''' - NZ Herald

**Norton** · 16-03-2021, 04:15 PM

That has got to be the fugliess woman I've ever seen.

**sabang** · 16-03-2021, 04:32 PM

She would definitely be deported.

**panama hat** · 16-03-2021, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Norton

That has got to be the fugliess woman I've ever seen.

Related to the Māori king no less . . .

As smart as she is attractive

**sabang** · 16-03-2021, 05:29 PM

Kinda puts Meghan and Harry into perspective.

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