^ he was probably a store detective LD. Next time try for something smaller than a frozen turkey
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^ he was probably a store detective LD. Next time try for something smaller than a frozen turkey
I don't recall us establishing that at all, but apart from the imprtant difference that the Government can change their mind if they commit a major crime I will go along with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
First, I suspect we will have to agree to differ on the definition of an immigrant, mine follows the standard dictionary definitions of a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence the Government classification is up to them, but what is an illegal immigrant if not someone who does not conform to the Government's definition? I'm sure there are many retirees in Thailand who quite rightly view themselves as immigrants, regardless of their current legal status.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTud
What's the obsession with Citizenship? My original post was about looking at how the UK population treated and viewed immigrants to the UK. If you want Citizenship, yes it is relatively easy to obtain once you are legally resident in the UK. In contrast, short or long term stays for UK citizens to Thailand are far easier than vice versa, to the point where even close family are often refused visas.
First, I suspect we will have to agree to differ on the definition of an immigrant, mine follows the standard dictionary definitions of a person who migrates to another country, usually for permanent residence
You did not migrate if you are on a tourist visa or Non-Immigrant visa.
You are not a permanent resident if you don't have permanent residency.
Note that when you do get permanent residence your visa status changes to an Immigrant Visa in Thailand.
Pretty self-explanitory.
the Government classification is up to them,
The Government classification is your status in Thailand.
but what is an illegal immigrant if not someone who does not conform to the Government's definition? I'm sure there are many retirees in Thailand who quite rightly view themselves as immigrants, regardless of their current legal status.
I'm sure there are many retirees that think they are God's gift to women with a women half their age on their arm but that doesn't necessarily make it so.
Doesn't matter what you view yourself. You have to face the truth of the matter and for some reason you seem to have a difficult time doing so.
^^ Sorry, Big Red. Agree with Emperor Tud here. Most of us have non-immigrant visas - regardless of how long we've been here. That means we are not immigrants. Full stop.
I personally know of one British person who has managed to get permanent residency here. Every other foreigner I know is still subject to renewing visas, leaving the country, visiting immigration, renewing WPs etc. Some of those have been here for 20 years, speak Thai & are married to Thais. We are not (for the most part immigrants), I guess we are guests.
Whatever we can say about the Thais, their culture and their country, at the end, long term "guests" are in Thailand because they like it here.
If Thailand sometimes makes it a bit difficult for foreigners to stay, they sure never made it difficult for them to leave.
So admit it, you like it here...:)
The Thai's in Indo???:pQuote:
Originally Posted by kingwilly
try driving in Indo, the thais are much much better!Quote:
Originally Posted by chitown
Don't trust the fookers
Very well in comparison with most other countries in the world. Even more amazing is that the UK is one of the most densely populated countries in the western world and the last thing we really need is more people.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRed
The Uk needs younger workers, and immigrants supply that need. The economy has always benefitted from influxes of immigrants.
The fuss about illegal immigrants is that the government has no control over them. Obviously, they do not want thousands of non-qualified workers flooding into the UK, they want people with some skills, like nurses, carpenters etc
Thailand, on the other hand, has plenty of younger citizens, has no need for foreigners without some special skills, so is not welcoming.
Making comparisons between Thailand and the west is just a waste of time, they are totally different types of economies and it follows that foreigners are also treated differently. Having said that, the Thais could show a little more compassion to those immigrants who are married to Thais and wish to live their lives in Thailand without bureaucracy chasing them.
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Originally Posted by November Rain
Dog Balls. Germans are genuinely rude. Most of them. Russians - Jesus don't get me started, the cave man eclipses them in brains and manners.
Thais? Where do I start?
Suffice to say, that MOST of the thais have no moral compass.
Care to debate that statement?
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^ Why should I want to debate it? You have your views based on your personality, experiences, inbuilt prejudices, upbringing etc, as do I. What is there to debate?
Off the record beautiful my avatar wants to fuck your avatar really bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by November Rain
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