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    My daughter got her first round about 2 weeks ago being she is in the medical profession. She did say that people really need to read and understand what this " vaccine " does and what it means. From reports it has a very short window of immunity thus meaning you could possibly be taking shots frequently to sustain immunity. On my research I am not fully convinced this going to have the impact so many think it will. It's not like a measles or polio vaccination. This is more like a flu type shot. I will remain skeptical at this point. No matter what, once again companies like Pfizer and Moderna cannot lose. Whether it works or not they will make billions of dollars.

    Will I get the shot if available? It will be a decision at that time. I am waiting for more field results first.

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    I know a couple people with Covid now.

    I’ll get the shot when it becomes available for me which will be a while. I’m not a health care worker/first responder, older adult, essential worker and don’t have any underlying conditions.

    Last in line, but that’s alright. Everyone mentioned above should get the vaccine before me.

    Spoke to my daughter (DNP) a couple of days ago to see when she’ll receive a shot. She told me she was considered Tier 1 but there are about 12 categories in that tier (example ER and ICU) and might be able to get a shot towards March.

    She’ll be giving vaccine shots to others at her hospital and monitoring some (who have just received the vaccine) also, but will not be vaccinated.
    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMadBaron View Post
    That's right. Lots of people died from dementia during World War One. Mustard gas is relatively harmless. What's your point?
    I'm sure you will find some interesting death stats from WW1.

    though I'd recommend just looking at the 2000's death rates to the recent death rates to start to unravel the great covid mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    though I'd recommend just looking at the 2000's death rates to the recent death rates to start to unravel the great covid mystery.
    Why dont you give us a nice summary. But it might be difficult as you have difficulty even knowing which country you are in.

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    I am waiting for the 5g version

    I want bill gates to have a recording of me choking the chicken to record on the world elite blockchain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    I'd recommend just looking at the 2000's death rates to the recent death rates to start to unravel the great covid mystery.
    There is no "great covid mystery." There is a global pandemic of a deadly disease. There are various containment measures in place. To some extent, they're working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Why dont you give us a nice summary. But it might be difficult as you have difficulty even knowing which country you are in.
    A summary from chico . . . . . . he will need to google the word 'summary' first.

    And he's in Laos . . . or was it the UK? Thailand? Sudan? Norway? 'Oslo'?


    He simply can't decide

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    Nice summation of how the vaccine works in more layman terms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    He simply can't decide

    Rocked by the gold digger deciding she had to take her pick axe elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
    I don't believe the stats are cooked, but I really do believe that, in a number of cases, preexisting conditions that would probably have killed the afflicted in any case are all being chalked up to the virus. I also wonder who exactly is getting the virus? In almost a year of e-mails and phone conversations with friends and family, it's been very rare to find anyone who personally knows a victim.....primarily here and in the US. Rather strange.
    The mother of one of my colleagues died from it about ten weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Nice summation of how the vaccine works in more layman terms...
    A nice summary of mRNA vaccines, but there are other choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    Do you know if there will be a special vaccination book issued, or an update added to an existing one? Have you any idea if any countries are accepting proof of a vaccination to ease entry restrictions?
    Everyone will do some sort of vaccine book or certificate. But the problem is international acceptance.

    There is at least one large group creating an app that will allow you to store your vaccine certification, and it may get international traction.

    Let's be honest though. If you have a vaccination certificate from the UK you are more likely to be accepted for international travel than having one from a country renowned for making forgeries of any document that can be printed, say for example something you could buy on the Kaosan Rd....

    Some oiks were done in Paris for knocking out PCR Test certificates if I remember rightly.

    (Added: Last week, French police arrested seven people for selling falsified negative test results at Paris' Charles de Gaulle International Airport, which is Europe's largest. Prosecutors said the suspects were charging between $180-360 for fake certificates.)

    They should make that a capital offence and execute anyone who tries to buy or sell a fake vaccination certificate.

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    ^^the Oxford / Astra Zeneca vaccine is made from old technology, i.e. uses attenuated virus (milder form), just like the ones for measles, polio, etc.

    The Pfizer & Moderna vaccines use mRNA (newer) techinology, more expensive to produce.

    The daughter of my mom's neighbor had covid. She's in her early 20s and had a relatively mild dose of it. She's a front liner, not medical but works for the local govt, and is in contact with many people. Eight of them in their department had it - they all had to be isolated in the makeshift covid hospital/quarters of the town. I had a chat with my mom's neighbour (the dad) - his daughter was on no work/ no pay rate during her illness.

    A colleague of the BF had it - she's also in her early 20s. She had a mild case and has tested negative already, but still feels tiredness & weakness. She was a healthy, active millenial prior to covid.

    What's dangerous about this virus is that it could hit you easy or hard - it's like a lottery & depends on how your immune system fights it. Then there are now reports of long covid sufferers - disorientation, loss of memory, shortness of breath, tiredness - even in patients who had it relatively mild.

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    The NHS has invited my Dad for his vaccination on 6 Jan. I will have to wait a little longer for mine, hoping it will be before September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    ^^the Oxford / Astra Zeneca vaccine is made from old technology, i.e. uses attenuated virus (milder form), just like the ones for measles, polio, etc.

    The Pfizer & Moderna vaccines use mRNA (newer) techinology, more expensive to produce.

    The daughter of my mom's neighbor had covid. She's in her early 20s and had a relatively mild dose of it. She's a front liner, not medical but works for the local govt, and is in contact with many people. Eight of them in their department had it - they all had to be isolated in the makeshift covid hospital/quarters of the town. I had a chat with my mom's neighbour (the dad) - his daughter was on no work/ no pay rate during her illness.

    A colleague of the BF had it - she's also in her early 20s. She had a mild case and has tested negative already, but still feels tiredness & weakness. She was a healthy, active millenial prior to covid.

    What's dangerous about this virus is that it could hit you easy or hard - it's like a lottery & depends on how your immune system fights it. Then there are now reports of long covid sufferers - disorientation, loss of memory, shortness of breath, tiredness - even in patients who had it relatively mild.


    Yeah. The "long haul" symptoms [post infection] are quite variable and somewhat perplexing to those who are studying/researching such effects.

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    One of my brother’s friends had COVID last month. He tested positive after having a stuffy nose and headaches. He was told to quarantine and use OTC meds. After he tested negative he began having pain in his calves so badly he went to a quick care clinic. Turned out he had blood clots and they broke loose and traveled to his lungs on the way to the emergency room. There, they put him on Plavix and sent him back home. The blood clotting was caused by COVID. He’s a healthy 32 year old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Not long had a flu jab and am fuckin full of cold now. It doesnt kill all common flus either, the same way that covid jab won't kill all the new mutations.
    Actually it will kill the "common flus" because that's exactly what it's designed for, you plank. It has nothing to do with colds.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Actually it will kill the "common flus" because that's exactly what it's designed for, you plank
    Here you go, you silly old fool...

    Fact: Several flu viruses are circulating all the time, which is why people may still get the flu despite being vaccinated since the vaccine is specific to one strain



    5 myths about the flu vaccine

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    One of my brother’s friends had COVID last month. He tested positive after having a stuffy nose and headaches. He was told to quarantine and use OTC meds. After he tested negative he began having pain in his calves so badly he went to a quick care clinic. Turned out he had blood clots and they broke loose and traveled to his lungs on the way to the emergency room. There, they put him on Plavix and sent him back home. The blood clotting was caused by COVID. He’s a healthy 32 year old!
    ... and that's my concern.

    I've had 3 DVT's and the clot effect of Covid is what could easily get me.

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    I will get it the first second available to me. I echo the same sentiment as many others , I am tired of this Covid Crap . I want to travel, go out for dinners with my friends, see my family.give a bear hug to a friend I have not seen for a while.
    What good is a virus that cant even kill trump?
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    What good is a virus that cant even kill trump?
    There's still hope!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    It doesnt kill all common flus either, the same way that covid jab won't kill all the new mutations.
    You're right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Actually it will kill the "common flus" because that's exactly what it's designed for, you plank.
    You're right.


    I mean, FIGHT!, FIGHT!, FIGHT!, FIGHT!!! and all that, but you're both right.


    Feel free to argue that the two statements are contradictory, and both can't be right. You'd be right.


    Quote Originally Posted by World Health Organization
    Fact: Several flu viruses are circulating all the time, which is why people may still get the flu despite being vaccinated since the vaccine is specific to one strain. However, being vaccinated improves the chance of being protected from the flu. This is especially important to stop the virus affecting people with vulnerable immune systems.
    5 myths about the flu vaccine

    True. It's an audacious use of the phrase "the vaccine." In fact, the entire page is dumbed down for the masses, as is much of WHO's output, but it is, in essence, true.
    In any case, it's an apt response to "I had the vaccine and still got the flu, so it doesn’t work."


    Quote Originally Posted by Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
    Most flu vaccines in the United States protect against four different flu viruses (“quadrivalent”); an influenza A (H1N1) virus, an influenza A (H3N2) virus, and two influenza B viruses. There are also some flu vaccines that protect against three different flu viruses (“trivalent”); an influenza A (H1N1) virus, an influenza A (H3N2) virus, and one influenza B virus. Two of the trivalent vaccines are designed specifically for people 65 and older to create a stronger immune response.
    Key Facts About Seasonal Flu Vaccine | CDC

    Yup, that's true too. Perhaps they're using "vaccine" to mean several vaccines in one, and perhaps there's just one or two strains of each virus, and perhaps it is a bit of a crap shoot, and perhaps regional variations between "vaccines" have to be taken into consideration here, and perhaps what goes for the United States doesn't automatically go for everywhere else, and perhaps the plural of virus is virii.... but it's true enough for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    Nice summation of how the vaccine works in more layman terms...
    The only thing I got out of this long explanation is that the virus is like most of the members in this forum

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    In the comments sections on YouTube of vids which refer to vaccination, the overwhelming concensus seems to be that the commenters wont take the vaccine.

    The reasons given are that there hasn't been sufficient time for the vaccine to be tested to prove it is safe, (which is a valid reason), and more conspiratorial reasons such as it contains a tracking element, it will be shown to be a population reduction tool, by causing sterilisation or lethal illnesses, that it's a money-grab by the elite, and other theories best taken with a pinch of salt.

    The nay-sayers also point out that hardly anybody knows anybody who has had the virus, even fewer know anybody who has died from it, so why take the risk of a rushed vaccine? There is some validity to this point of view. It is curious that for a world-wide pandemic, it appears that it has not shown up in many people's lives.

    When it's pointed out to these posters that refusing the vaccine will almost certainly lead to reduced access to public areas, no access to shops, the workplace and places of education, no access to public transport, and so on, many insist they will still refuse the vaccine.
    Of course, it's easy to be a keyboard holder of principles, not so easy in the outside world.

    Yet in this thread, most say they would take it.
    Which is opposite to the commenters on YT.

    I'll take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo Banzai View Post
    The only thing I got out of this long explanation is that the virus is like most of the members in this forum

    Heh...some are more like toxins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Coalman View Post
    The nay-sayers also point out that hardly anybody knows anybody who has had the virus,
    ...irrelevant...
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    even fewer know anybody who has died from it
    ...irrelevant...
    Quote Originally Posted by I Coalman View Post
    There is some validity to this point of view
    ...no, there isn't...
    Quote Originally Posted by I Coalman View Post
    It is curious that for a world-wide pandemic, it appears that it has not shown up in many people's lives.
    ...appears to whom?...
    Quote Originally Posted by I Coalman View Post
    Yet in this thread, most say they would take it.
    ...of course: despite the pseudo-bravado, the desire to appear firmly Luddite and attempts to equate stupidity with common sense, certain posters here, like many US Republican politicians, will eagerly trample the children and elderly to grab the toffees and take the vaccine...
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