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    Thank you for your post.

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    "China Claims More Patents Than Any Country—Most Are Worthless"
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    Yes, a data point to consider. As is the type of patent applied for and the quality of the "new" or "extended" area of it.
    One source says this, another says that. C'est la vie.

    One source headlines they're worthless, another proves it's value, increased sales, more people around the world being lifted out of poverty, they are invaluable.C'est la vie.Some lead to the writer being honored, some a momentary blip in a companies share price and some deliver a better life that their county can afford to offer their population.



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    Halfwit like you believe that North Korea is, in fact, a democracy.
    I don't even know any halfwits that believe DRNK is a democracy. But some halfwits still believe Thailand is.

    all the Communists have to do is change their name.
    Their PR is not my concern, but I believe they would be well advised to change their name too. I mean, modern China is hardly Communist, is it? It has privately owned industry, billionaire entrepreneurs, thriving stock markets- none of which is allowable in a communist system. And it helps keep simmering a long, increasingly defunct ideological conflict.

    Laissez faire Capitalism adopted some concepts from Socialist philosophies- such as national healthcare, unemployment insurance etc. To our benefit- now our political system might be better described as social democracy (except maybe the US). Socialist/ Commie countries, most significantly China, adopted many concepts from our (quasi) democratic system too. To their obvious benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    more people around the world being lifted out of poverty
    Unfortunately they are normally "influential people" being "lifted out of poverty" by a cake tin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I don't even know any halfwits that believe DRNK is a democracy. But some halfwits still believe Thailand is.


    Their PR is not my concern, but I believe they would be well advised to change their name too. I mean, modern China is hardly Communist, is it? It has privately owned industry, billionaire entrepreneurs, thriving stock markets- none of which is allowable in a communist system. And it helps keep simmering a long, increasingly defunct ideological conflict.

    Laissez faire Capitalism adopted some concepts from Socialist philosophies- such as national healthcare, unemployment insurance etc. To our benefit- now our political system might be better described as social democracy (except maybe the US). Socialist/ Commie countries, most significantly China, adopted many concepts from our (quasi) democratic system too. To their obvious benefit.
    Chinastan, like Russia (and Thailand) is between an oligarchy and a dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    well advised to change their name
    It has been updated used for nearly 4 years by China's officials. Some rely on the old red flags to keep the children hiding under their beds.

    More on the "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" here:

    The Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

    Infographic: The Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era - Xinhua | English.news.cn

    and how it was created here:

    CPC creates Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era

    CPC creates Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era - Xinhua | English.news.cn

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    CPC creates Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era

    CPC creates Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era - Xinhua | English.news.cn
    Is that like a chinky "Mein Kampf"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    And this is because of the Communist totalitarian party ? Yeah right. There are poor working stiffs all over the world busting their ass for peanuts. It's called reality.

    The Chinese are responsible for pulling the most ppl out of poverty in history for Christ sakes
    hmm, also responsible for making cheap fakes of everything and polluting the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    hmm, also responsible for making cheap fakes of everything and polluting the world.
    And creating the most poverty in the first place. (everyone seems to forget that little nugget)

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    ^Right, this is a good read.

    How did China escape 'poverty trap' - CGTN

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Is that like a chinky "Mein Kampf"?
    The nazis were anti Communist but called themselves socialists. Now you are equating them all the while calling right wingers nazis.

    What a fucking ridiculous bunch of nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    ^Right, this is a good read.

    How did China escape 'poverty trap' - CGTN
    A ridiculous piece of chinky propaganda that completely ignores the miserable, overpopulated polluted cities full of mindless drones churning out shit around the world, while sucking it dry of everything; and in doing so spreading poverty, sickness and debt as they go along?

    A good read?

    Welcome to the dumb chinky sycophant club.

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    ^Well you certainly can't believe everything that comes out of China and the fact that they hide most of their 'real' news or totally omit it is another issue.

    Living in China as I did for four years gave me some insight. I lived in an apartment building and area that was totally Chinese in my last year. When I left the neighbor came to the door and I offered him a beer, with no words needed as he didn't speak a lick of English. We just stood there having a beer and trying to communicate in my beginner spoken Mandarin.

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    It remains the fact that the Chinese government has lifted more people out of abject poverty than any government in world history. That is an astonishing accomplishment and if you can't acknowledge that, I would ask a simple question- who is the one being propagandised? The fact that this has been accomplished peacefully with trade and manufacturing- not conquest, slavery, colonialism etc might even be a cause for relief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It remains the fact that the Chinese government has lifted more people out of abject poverty than any government in world history. That is an astonishing accomplishment and if you can't acknowledge that, I would ask a simple question- who is the one being propagandised? The fact that this has been accomplished peacefully with trade and manufacturing- not conquest, slavery, colonialism etc might even be a cause for relief.

    That just doesn't matter to the anti China demagogues. Look at Cujo's latest tale. They created the most poverty in the first place he says. Even though what created the China poverty was civil war.

    I don't say we have to trust the Chinese with everything but we could at least avoid disrespect and war rhetoric. Both are basically the same thing. If you are denying a whole society legitimacy like these demagogues do, then you are supporting war with China. Which they are. The first order of war is to dehumanize the opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    hmm, also responsible for making cheap fakes of everything and polluting the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    And creating the most poverty in the first place. (everyone seems to forget that little nugget)
    ^ & ^^ Yup, good points

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The nazis were anti Communist but called themselves socialists.
    I cringe every time you comment on serious topics . . . they didn't call themselves 'socialists'.


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    What a fucking ridiculous bunch of nonsense
    Yes, please stop

    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It remains the fact that the Chinese government has lifted more people out of abject poverty than any government in world history
    Yes, it's an achievement . . . but you do know it's also propaganda dross. Where else arewere/ there that many people who lived in abject poverty? India - excellent. China can pride itself on having lifted more people out of poverty than India. Medal awarded. Oh, one thing India didn't do was murder 100 million of its own people


    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They created the most poverty in the first place he says.
    So, thats not true?

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Even though what created the China poverty was civil war.
    Oh, you're saying it is but it's excusable. Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The first order of war is to dehumanize the opposition.
    Who is at war with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    ^Well you certainly can't believe everything that comes out of China and the fact that they hide most of their 'real' news or totally omit it is another issue.

    Living in China as I did for four years gave me some insight. I lived in an apartment building and area that was totally Chinese in my last year. When I left the neighbor came to the door and I offered him a beer, with no words needed as he didn't speak a lick of English. We just stood there having a beer and trying to communicate in my beginner spoken Mandarin.

    Nice story bro, does it have a point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The nazis were anti Communist but called themselves socialists. Now you are equating them all the while calling right wingers nazis.

    What a fucking ridiculous bunch of nonsense
    Jaysus, not this crap again. You spouted this theory before and had a bunch of people try to educate you. Seems like it didnt hold.

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    Oh, one thing India didn't do was murder 100 million of its own people
    I assume you are referring to the "Great Leap Forward" - a Maoist initiative that indeed ended in disaster, ie famine. To call it murder rather than government ineptitude though is a bit rich. Actually, I think the GLF and subsequent (& also farcical) Cultural Revolution set the stage for the fall of Maoism- which had most certainly been holding China back.

    Anyway, that long predates the modernisation and economic miracle that China became, under the enlightened leadership of Deng Xiaopeng. One of the towering figures of the 20th Century.
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    We just stood there having a beer and trying to communicate in my beginner spoken Mandarin.
    Beginner Mandarin? Scandalous after 4 years in the country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    GLF
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    Cultural Revolution
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    murder 100 million of its own people
    Facts, simple to acknowledge. Whether or not is predates anything is neither here nor there, Mao is still revered in China, the little red book still is a must have (literally) and if you want to arbitrarily create before/after despite Mao's party still being in power then any discussion is fruitless as you can point to any apologist-specific timeframe and create a disconnect.

    It's still the same party and it wasn't that long ago - still hundreds of millions alive from then. The mass murderer only died in 1976, still the Chairman of the Communist party of China

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post


    I cringe every time you comment on serious topics . . . they didn't call themselves 'socialists'.


    Nazism

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    National Socialism, commonly known in English as Nazism, is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party —in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar ideas and aims. Wikipedia



    They literally called themselves socialists. You UTTER numpty

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    No body is that stupid, he is just trolling. Just like Looper's thread of mixing syrup into single malt whiskies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Nazism

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    National Socialism, commonly known in English as Nazism, is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party —in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar ideas and aims. Wikipedia
    Try this on for size:
    Die Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP) war eine in der Weimarer Republik gegründete politische Partei, deren Programm und Ideologie (der Nationalsozialismus) von radikalem Antisemitismus und Nationalismus sowie der Ablehnung von Demokratie und Marxismus bestimmt war. Sie war als straffe Führerpartei organisiert. Ihr Parteivorsitzender war ab 1921 der spätere ReichskanzlerAdolf Hitler, unter dem sie Deutschland in der Diktatur des Nationalsozialismus von 1933 bis 1945 als einzige zugelassene Partei beherrschte.
    Do you see how 'National' and 'Sozialistsche' are either one word or hyphenated? That will tell you that socialism is NOT a separate concept. It's National-Socialism, not National Socialism. I'd explain it further but you're quite simply not worth the effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They literally called themselves socialists. You UTTER numpty
    They literally didn't. Literally.

    Do yourself a favour, please, and read the following article which explains it quite well, how the language was manipulated - no, not English - German.

    Were the Nazis socialists? No, not in any meaningful way, and certainly not after 1934. But to address this canard fully, one must begin with the birth of the party.
    https://www.britannica.com/story/wer...zis-socialists




    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    No body is that stupid
    Well, he is . . . and chico . . . and a few others

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    It remains the fact that the Chinese government has lifted more people out of abject poverty than any government in world history. That is an astonishing accomplishment
    The fact that this has been accomplished peacefully with trade and manufacturing- not conquest, slavery, colonialism etc might even be a cause for relief.
    And accomplished not with wars...

    Can we imagine the state the country was in 30 years ago? After centuries of destroying and a "help" by others?

    But that's not what some want to hear. ("I do not care what the facts are...")

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Try this on for size:


    Do you see how 'National' and 'Sozialistsche' are either one word or hyphenated? That will tell you that socialism is NOT a separate concept. It's National-Socialism, not National Socialism. I'd explain it further but you're quite simply not worth the effort


    They literally didn't. Literally.

    Do yourself a favour, please, and read the following article which explains it quite well, how the language was manipulated - no, not English - German.



    Were the Nazis Socialists? | Britannica






    Well, he is . . . and chico . . . and a few others
    Don't give me this long winded semantic bullshit. Do you actually think I can't weasel around into my narrative sources and construct the opposing argument ?

    It's just the name. That's all I was fucking saying. Grow the fucjk up

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