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    You plebs are way to serious.

    Just think about when NZ legalises the wacky tabaccy and all those sheep shagging fukos are just going to fire one up and float away into happiness.

    It's comin on strong wank spots and you know ya gunna love it.

    Cheers Bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Why shouldn't they?

    Jail = doing the time for the crime.

    Why should they lose their rights as a citizen?

    It was the point of not being able to vote if you are out of the country for a few years, but if you do a crime for three years you can vote.

    It just seems weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    It was the point of not being able to vote if you are out of the country for a few years, but if you do a crime for three years you can vote.

    It just seems weird
    Agree, seems a bit odd. As I said earlier, if it wasn't for Covid, I would have flown back to vote. Need to get weed legal in NZ.

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    They think it's all over. Oh, it is.

    Jacinda Ardern has led her party to a resounding, unprecedented victory in what she dubbed the ‘Covid election’, leaving Judith Collins and National facing crisis. Justin Giovannetti reports.
    The New Zealand Labour Party under Jacinda Ardern has secured a commanding victory, winning the largest share of parliament since the introduction of MMP after a historic election campaign waged in the midst of a global pandemic.
    Ardern has cemented her place in the pantheon of Labour leaders with just short of 50% of the party vote on the night, the largest win in a half-century. The National Party, after a campaign marked by poor discipline, lost droves of centrist voters and fell below 30% support. Act and the Greens, representing different ends of the political spectrum, are each expected to win 10 seats. The Māori Party will return to parliament on tonight’s result after winning the Waiariki seat.
    Jacinda Ardern and Labour secure historic landslide win in NZ election | The Spinoff

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    If form follows the Greens could well pick up a seat as overseas votes come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    You plebs are way to serious.

    Just think about when NZ legalises the wacky tabaccy and all those sheep shagging fukos are just going to fire one up and float away into happiness.

    It's comin on strong wank spots and you know ya gunna love it.

    Cheers Bitches.
    Oh look. Tezza the mid sixties bogon wankstain strikes again. FFS.
    Grow up you retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Bit bloody melodramatic!
    They'll be landing at the Aussie beaches and flooding the country . . . (here an actual depiction of the previous invasion)





    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    Agree, seems a bit odd. As I said earlier, if it wasn't for Covid, I would have flown back to vote. Need to get weed legal in NZ.
    It looks like Weed won't pass but euthanasia will.




    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    PH is a nazi liberal, right wing voter*! No doubt about it.
    Add Jabobian Mathusianist, please.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Why should they lose their rights as a citizen?
    I'd argue that they have lost some of their rights while incarcerated - but that isn't the issue here. The cynical inclusion of prisoners, most of whom are/or would be because of this to be ArgdernFanBois, is just another act by Labour to 'buy' votes. And why the arbitrary 3 years and the equalling three years for overseas Kiwis?

    Interesting to hear professional opinions that many National/NZF voters went for Labour to ensure Ardern could rule alone - and leave the greens out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    Every large party needs a smaller one to keep it honest
    Yup, government has been better since we got past all that silly First Past the Post system. Contrary to some people's beliefs coalition governments have been more stable and less likely to do absurdly dumb shit like they used to.



    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    get ready for tax hikes, inflation up the wazoo, price increases, more regional taxes, higher petrol taxes, more strikes and the resulting pay increases etc etc . . .
    TBF a lot of that was gonna happen anyway, no matter who won. The lockdown piper still has to be paid.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post


    TBF a lot of that was gonna happen anyway, no matter who won. The lockdown piper still has to be paid.
    How do you pay the lockdown piper when you have no money and they shut down places like New Plymouth that has the potential to earn?

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    I don't know, I doubt Aunty Jacinda will know either.

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    Was going to start a thread about Canadian politics

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    Why, Skidmark? Why the need to post here when that's all you have to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by panama hat View Post
    get ready for tax hikes, inflation up the wazoo, price increases, more regional taxes, higher petrol taxes, more strikes and the resulting pay increases etc etc . . .
    And this year, a fascinating new paper from the field suggested two culprits were to blame for the phenomenon.

    It said rising income inequality, and the liberalisation of the financial sector — both of which originated in the 1980s — had pulled those 14 advanced economies
    [listed above] into their current low-growth, low-interest rate, high-debt environment.

    The paper was called Indebted Demand.

    It was written by economics professors Atif Mian (from Princeton University), Ludwig Straub (Harvard University), and Amir Sufi (University of Chicago).

    It could have implications for our current attempt to pull ourselves out of the coronavirus recession.

    In a nutshell, the paper suggested the bottom 90 per cent of households in those 14 countries, and governments, had become so indebted in the past 40 years it had weighed on aggregate (total) demand.

    At the same time, there has been a huge accumulation of income and wealth among the top 1 per cent, and since the super-rich have a greater propensity to save, interest rates have been falling.

    Strikingly, the paper also warned popular expansionary policies — such as deficit spending and accommodative monetary policy — may make this current recession worse in the long run.

    Why? Because when economies are already stuck in a low-growth, low-interest rate, high-debt "trap", traditional methods of dealing with recessions can exacerbate the problem
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    how taxes are spent is what needs transparency - the quicker countries move to make bureaucratic decisions fully auditable via blockchain technology the quicker inefficiencies and waste can be highlighted and decision makers held accountable to remove the inept

    and tax the shit out of high wealth

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    ^ Agree
    ^ Don't disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    the quicker countries move to make bureaucratic decisions fully auditable via blockchain technology the quicker inefficiencies and waste can be highlighted and decision makers held accountable to remove the inept
    I don't understand how that part works, I thought one of the things with blockchain was it was untraceable (or at least difficult)?

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    you have that backwards - it is written in a blockchain to be traceable and unchangeable

    think of it as a shared spreadsheet where any changes need at least 51% ( some variations require 70+ % ) of agreement of all interested parties before it is written as the immutable ledger

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    think of it as a shared spreadsheet where any changes need at least 51% ( some variations require 70+ % ) of agreement of all interested parties before it is written as the immutable ledger
    Ahh OK...





















    ....You lost me at the math part. Anyways I agree with the principle of accountability whatever the method.

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