Thread: The Tiger King: Straight Men can be programmed to be gay :)

So it’s agreed then.

Buttplug is utterly transparent and a total wanker.

^He is a curious little fish isn’t he? He posts to try and justify his lifestyle choices, and engender support for his belief that everyone should be just like him.
The prism that he views life through is confusing enough for some, but anyone one who has actually considered his lack of intelligence, can see through it, yes.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

So when does this fucking rubbish get shitcanned?

why are you so angry, harry, does this topic upset you, again

Originally Posted by hallelujah

It's gotta be one of the weirdest fucked up programmes on Netflix at the moment.

By episode 3 I was hooked.

it was addicting, Episode 3 was definitely a turning point

Originally Posted by Norton

....Nope. Just another Butter's troll but the fish he is targeting is far to intelligent to rise to this pathetic attempt....

which fish would that be because I have no idea

if you imply racist homophobes like Harry and self-righteous boring evangelists like Cy, then no, I asked for serious replies only, not comments by stupid boring wankers like them

Originally Posted by cyrille

So it’s agreed then.

Buttplug is utterly transparent and a total wanker.

You forgot "stupid, shit troll".

Originally Posted by Looper

I know conventional thought is that it is only nature and never environment that leads to gayness.

No, it's not.

Most educated folk understand that we do not know for sure, there seems to be examples of both environment and nature. Most likely a combination or even different types of pathways.

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

No, it's not.

Most educated folk understand that we do not know for sure, there seems to be examples of both environment and nature. Most likely a combination or even different types of pathways.

absolutely,

men can be programmed to have gay sex even if they call themselves "straight", happens all the time in prison, when "gayness" is the new environment normal for a straight man

Joe was able to "seduce" his straight partners into a gay relationship by giving them emotional "peace" and a "future" with him

at the end it doesn't matter if you are male or female, humans will have a tendency to go for companionship by default (except for Cy who is miserable with everyone he comes across)

therefore gay sex can be as normal for men as anything else, just to have to learn how to appreciate it, like a good wine and cheese

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

therefore gay sex can be as normal for men as anything else

Hey, that sounds famliar...

Originally Posted by cyrille

In a similar way, I'm told that there is no small number of ladyboys in Thailand who are not even sexually attracted to men.

They get to see it as not a big deal, and if that's how they see it then, of course...it isn't.

Your talk of 'programming' is still ridiculous though, but understandable for someone whose only lasting relationship has been with his dildo.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Joe was able to "seduce" his straight partners into a gay relationship by giving them emotional "peace" and a "future" with him

Joe got laid with tramps, layabouts, simpletons and people with drug habits because he had money.

That may count as some sort of urbane seduction technique for you, but for most folks it really isn't.

Programmed is a poor choice of word under the environmental conditions you describe. Perhaps, coerced or trained might be a better choice.
Im sure anyone confined to an all male prison can learn to eat prison food. You don’t have to like it, but food is a requirement for survival.
Sex is not a life or death activity for most people. Companionship may be a social need for some, but it is possible to survive without it. While social interaction may be desirable for some, even in an all male prison, other activities might.successfully meet those needs.

Originally Posted by cyrille

Hey, that sounds famliar...



Your talk of 'programming' is still ridiculous though, but understandable for someone whose only lasting relationship has been with his dildo.




Joe got laid with tramps, layabouts, simpletons and people with drug habits because he had money.

That may count as some sort of urbane seduction technique for you, but for most folks it really isn't.

why you sound so angry with that topic, Cy?

not interested in your stupid little summons

Originally Posted by Switch

Programmed is a poor choice of word under the environmental conditions you describe. Perhaps, coerced or trained might be a better choice.
Im sure anyone confined to an all male prison can learn to eat prison food. You don’t have to like it, but food is a requirement for survival.
Sex is not a life or death activity for most people. Companionship may be a social need for some, but it is possible to survive without it. While social interaction may be desirable for some, even in an all male prison, other activities might.successfully meet those needs.

if you prefer the world manipulated, it's a good word for it too. It's basically teaching someone to be something they thought they weren't, or reveal a hidden possibility buried in someone.

My theory is men are gay by default, they just need to be "triggered" (no pun here) in the right direction, maybe it be in prison, or for companionships

were Joe "boyfriends" fucked up and loners? probably. They would have abused their wives if they had one. Joe gave them a choice to be something else.

Originally Posted by TheRealKW

No, it's not.

Most educated folk understand that we do not know for sure, there seems to be examples of both environment and nature. Most likely a combination or even different types of pathways.

I must not be up to speed on the gay science zeitgeist Willy.

I have always sensed of tone of political reprimand in response to any suggestion that there may be anything other than biology (whether it be genetic or epi-genetic) involved in gayness.

It seemed to be an important strategic political battleground that had recently been won and could not be surrendered in the minds of many gay political activists.

It’s probably quite easy for any observer, to view male bonding friendships as potentially gay. The truth is that inter gender relationships can be quite complex.
Males bond easily with other males, usually based on common interests in sport or adventure activities.
Women seek out other females with common interests in feminine activities.
Neither of these companionship rituals automatically lead to a gay relationship. It’s about variety of companionship, and often just a sympathetic ear to listen is as far as it might go.
Straight, gay or even transgender relationships are so often fraught with difficulty, driven by that desire for variety of companionship.
I have no claim to expertise in relationship matters between the different genders, just personal observation of the variety in inter personal relationships. Sex, companionship and intimacy all have different connotations for different people.
In my personal view, there are biological and environmental reasons for learned behaviors in inter sex relationships.
Some are open to it, and some are not.

this thread is a nutter discussing another nutters nutty theory

I have no intention of watching a seires about another dysfunctional american , and could not care less about his disturbed life

Originally Posted by baldrick

this thread is a nutter discussing another nutters nutty theory

I have no intention of watching a seires about another dysfunctional american , and could not care less about his disturbed life

Well one thing we have learned is that buttplug will be giving away free meth to try and get toothless yokels to bum him.

No no, he'll offer 'emotional peace' and 'a future'.


That was his takeaway of what was on offer from a life with 'The Tiger King'.

He must be ordering up cages and organising deliveries from butcher's right now.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well one thing we have learned is that buttplug will be giving away free meth to try and get toothless yokels to bum him.

Originally Posted by baldrick

this thread is a nutter discussing another nutters nutty theory

I have no intention of watching a seires about another dysfunctional american , and could not care less about his disturbed life

and yet you felt the need to post here, maybe you are trying to say something about your internal possible gayness

Originally Posted by Switch

It’s probably quite easy for any observer, to view male bonding friendships as potentially gay. The truth is that inter gender relationships can be quite complex.
Males bond easily with other males, usually based on common interests in sport or adventure activities.
Women seek out other females with common interests in feminine activities.
Neither of these companionship rituals automatically lead to a gay relationship. It’s about variety of companionship, and often just a sympathetic ear to listen is as far as it might go.
Straight, gay or even transgender relationships are so often fraught with difficulty, driven by that desire for variety of companionship.
I have no claim to expertise in relationship matters between the different genders, just personal observation of the variety in inter personal relationships. Sex, companionship and intimacy all have different connotations for different people.
In my personal view, there are biological and environmental reasons for learned behaviors in inter sex relationships.
Some are open to it, and some are not.

not bad Chass,

companionship is "emotional" support for both sex, and "intimacy" is a deeper version, and more emotional version of that support. It might be easier for women to enter into a gay sexual relationship, as "intimacy" is extremely important for them.

For men, the sexual organs thing might a barrier to that "intimacy", but it's only a technical issue

Interesting that Tom has not popped in to offer his opinion.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

For men, the sexual organs thing might a barrier to that "intimacy", but it's only a technical issue

This can be sorted out by modifying this 'programming' you've posted about, presumably?



There's more understanding of relationships on display in 'American Psycho' than there is in your posts.

Originally Posted by cyrille

This can be sorted out by modifying this 'programming' you've posted about, presumably?



There's more understanding of relationships on display in 'American Psycho' than there is in your posts.

that is very interesting Cy, but just go to another thread to annoy somebody else, you pretentious little twat

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

not bad Chass,

companionship is "emotional" support for both sex, and "intimacy" is a deeper version, and more emotional version of that support. It might be easier for women to enter into a gay sexual relationship, as "intimacy" is extremely important for them.

For men, the sexual organs thing might a barrier to that "intimacy", but it's only a technical issue

Companionship and intimacy do not necessarily equal sex. Both emotions can exist without it.
Sex is essentially a hard wired response, designed to propagate the species.
Advances in medicine are available to counter this response, and suborn the practice to allow a response for desire, which precludes propogation.
Althoughgaydesire has been around a longtime, medical advances have allowed for greater experimentation. In today’s more “enlightened” society.
Your prison analogy simply allows animal desire to take over, without the consequence of breeding. You might expect nothing less in an overcrowded, confined population. It has nothing to do with programming gayness it is the compulsion for sexual gratification, in a confined environment with limited outlets.