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    Living in China.

    Be interested to know if any members have lived in China over the last 6 months and if you have been there over the covid 19 how organised where the authorities dealing with the lockdown.

    Just asking as reading this guys article its interesting to see what other expats living in China,have a different view to China that we are led to believe by the media.

    Fact Check on China's "Wet Markets"​ Here's the Reality


    If You Still Don't Understand How China Succeeded Stopping the Virus, Read This and Be Forever Enlightened
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Be interested to know if any members have lived in China over the last 6 months and if you have been there over the covid 19 how organised where the authorities dealing with the lockdown.
    ...Grammar nurse! Code Blue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post

    Just asking as reading this guys article its interesting to see what other expats living in China,have a different view to China that we are led to believe by the media.

    Fact Check on China's "Wet Markets"​ Here's the Reality
    Where do you live YasoJack?

    Markets like that exist in Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Burma, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Phillipines. Pretty much every Asian country. You dont need to read about it on Linkedin to learn that....

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    They don't all sell live animals either. In fact in my smallish South China city none of them do as far as I'm aware.
    The produce is much fresher and cheaper than the supermarkets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...Grammar nurse! Code Blue!
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    Yeah, but anyone that conflates wet/farmers/flea markets should probably shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Yeah, but anyone that conflates wet/farmers/flea markets should probably shut the fuck up.
    The random capitalization of words was a slight give away.

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    The Chinese government were very decisive when it became apparent that they were unable to contain the virus within Wuhan.

    The whole country went into lockdown. Every housing complex had temperature checks. The supermarkets were open but, again, temperature checks, QR code scans and hand sanitiser each time you went in. The overwhelming majority of people stayed inside for at least 2 months. As others have said, there are wet markets all over Asia so this can't be purely dismissed as a Chinese problem.

    The approach taken by "liberal" Western nations has proven disastrous by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    The approach taken by "liberal" Western nations has proven disastrous by comparison.
    ...no doubt about it: democracies are messy...mass mobilizations are much easier when there is little regard for human rights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    As others have said, there are wet markets all over Asia so this can't be purely dismissed as a Chinese problem.
    And yet somehow both covid and SARS are/were linked to Chinese wer markets.

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    Higher population and wider spread of wildlife in said markets I would assume. Also the cultural use of "traditional" medicine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...no doubt about it: democracies are messy...mass mobilizations are much easier when there is little regard for human rights...
    Mass mobilisations save lives. It's not much use to you having rights if you are dead tc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    this can't be purely dismissed as a Chinese problem.
    No, it is a global problem caused by the Chinese, as was SARS.

    The approach taken by "liberal" Western nations has proven disastrous by comparison.
    Yes, we should all live under repressive dictatorships then we'd be safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Where do you live YasoJack?

    Markets like that exist in Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Burma, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Phillipines. Pretty much every Asian country. You dont need to read about it on Linkedin to learn that....

    The point of Your post is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...no doubt about it: democracies are messy...mass mobilizations are much easier when there is little regard for human rights...

    Right, so we should do as he west does hey,and have no plan in Place and let everyone suffer and be in fear for there lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Yes, we should all live under repressive dictatorships then we'd be safe.
    We already do.

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    That 'fact check' is one person's opinion piece - it's interesting in many ways, but far far from facts.



    China has a problem with hygiene/viruses originating there, especially jumping/mutating from animals to people. It's not alone in this issue, and other countries have their own issues too..., but to attempt to deny this history, including recent and current history, is silly - China has a problem that needs addressing. This problem caused this pandemic, the SARS pandemic, and more in the future if nothing is done about it.

    On the flip-side, mass mobilisation, mass emergency orders, etc are not a product of Communist China alone. Korea and Japan have a history of such behaviour, it's an East Asian trait which also links to politics. There is zero communism or state oppression in Korea (well, no more than any western democracy), yet they followed similar tactics to China where prudent in dealing with this pandemic.

    China was an utter shitehole when I visited 20 years ago, I wouldn't eat from any market or most restaurants, but China has developed a lot in that time and continues to. More work to do on the markets though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    And yet somehow both covid and SARS are/were linked to Chinese wer markets.
    Notwithstanding other statements, obviously conspiracy theories...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    Markets like that exist in Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, Burma,


    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    They don't all sell live animals either
    Never seen a Thai forest market? In fact, even at Chatuchak can be seen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post


    Yes, we should all live under repressive dictatorships then we'd be safe.

    Did you hear Trump last night rant on about having "total authority" ?

    Does that make people feel safe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofrey View Post
    Mass mobilisations save lives. It's not much use to you having rights if you are dead tc.
    ...fortunately, those aren't the only options...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...fortunately, those aren't the only options...
    Ye I suppose the Asians can learn from the west.

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    As previously posted. All our village and local city markets, here in Trat and Chanthaburi,Thailand, sell live fish prawns and crabs. I don't think Tesco do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    As previously posted. In Chantaburi the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Ribble Ribble Oink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Never seen a Thai forest market? In fact, even at Chatuchak can be seen...
    You've mixed up the quotes again . . . <on purpose?>, some (name withheld but starting with the letter after J and before L in - originally - the little known Proto-Sinatic alphabet)

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