Living in China.

**jabir** · 14-04-2020, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

Mass mobilisations save lives. It's not much use to you having rights if you are dead tc.

You may be right with the benefit of hindsight, and in your perfect world; now please explain how in critical situations such as this you think we can enjoy the safest sets of measures of both free and oppressed worlds.

**Jofrey** · 14-04-2020, 02:53 PM

Where did I say that I live in a perfect world?

Perfection is an ideal few would aspire to.

I have lived in China for over 3 years now and thought it would be opportune to offer my view on how the crisis was dealt with here. At the outset, I was of the opinion that it would be another China based outbreak and waited for it to pass. When things became more serious, I was waiting it out in Bangkok and had to decide to return or not. In the end, I came back as most of my friends thought that the situation was improving.

I think the conception of this in terms of "free and oppressed" are quite irrelevant regardless. I would think that many ethnic minorities in the USA (such as the African-Americans) don't exactly feel fantastic about their putative "freedom" now with the poor healthcare system and skewed death rates in their communities.

**cyrille** · 14-04-2020, 02:57 PM

^^A good start would be to curtail the 'moth to the flame' like tendency to elect abject morons and the psychologically unbalanced as leaders.

In better times one can be amused by the prevalence of the apparently brain-dead on TD who favour such people.

Even just a few short weeks ago battyboob's thoroughly nutty approach to immunology was raising cackles of laughter across the board.

Well it seems a long time ago now, and it's getting tougher to laugh.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-04-2020, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Chico

We already do.

You might, but that's because you're a whackjob.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-04-2020, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

Did you hear Trump last night rant on about having "total authority" ?

Does that make people feel safe?

Him ranting about it and him having it are two different things.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-04-2020, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

Where did I say that I live in a perfect world?

Perfection is an ideal few would aspire to.

I have lived in China for over 3 years now and thought it would be opportune to offer my view on how the crisis was dealt with here. At the outset, I was of the opinion that it would be another China based outbreak and waited for it to pass. When things became more serious, I was waiting it out in Bangkok and had to decide to return or not. In the end, I came back as most of my friends thought that the situation was improving.

I think the conception of this in terms of "free and oppressed" are quite irrelevant regardless. I would think that many ethnic minorities in the USA (such as the African-Americans) don't exactly feel fantastic about their putative "freedom" now with the poor healthcare system and skewed death rates in their communities.

I think before you start blowing the chinky trumpet you should note their previous record on yooman rights especially in regards to disappearing people who threaten them, as well as the high probability that they are lying through their bat-stained teeth about the number of people in China that have died of this epidemic of their own making.

There is "oppression" and then there is "oppression".

**Cujo** · 14-04-2020, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Never seen a Thai forest market? In fact, even at Chatuchak can be seen...

Why are you talking about Thai forrest markets? Maybe the DO all sell live wild animals.But I can assure you very few markets in China do.

**HuangLao** · 14-04-2020, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

The Chinese government were very decisive when it became apparent that they were unable to contain the virus within Wuhan.

The whole country went into lockdown. Every housing complex had temperature checks. The supermarkets were open but, again, temperature checks, QR code scans and hand sanitiser each time you went in. The overwhelming majority of people stayed inside for at least 2 months. As others have said, there are wet markets all over Asia so this can't be purely dismissed as a Chinese problem.

The approach taken by "liberal" Western nations has proven disastrous by comparison.

Indeed.
The enlightened and exceptional West has struggled [outside of OZ/NZ], from the start, to get a handle on the bug.
Preparedness protocol and rather ignorant populations have lead to a disaster throughout Europe/North American - in comparison.
And still spreading/climbing to date with no seemingly end in sight.

Just have to look at the numbers - outside of China [who contained it in a couple of months] - and they're dwarfed throughout all of Asia.....and diminishing as we speak.

The preparedness and take action models from [examples] South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore were not learned from and the West is greatly suffering because of their inability to get it.

* Zhener's on the ball. Speaking of truths that most of the dumbed down refuse to hear or comprehend.

**cyrille** · 14-04-2020, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

I think the conception of this in terms of "free and oppressed" are quite irrelevant regardless. I would think that many ethnic minorities in the USA (such as the African-Americans) don't exactly feel fantastic about their putative "freedom" now with the poor healthcare system and skewed death rates in their communities.

Anyone got any stats on the Uighur 'community'?

Well, what's left of it...

**Jofrey** · 14-04-2020, 05:17 PM

Not apologising for the re-education/concentration camps in China as you well know. I think a lot of those Uighurs will be/have been pressed into crowded working conditions in factories to get the Chinese economy up and running.

**Chico** · 14-04-2020, 05:38 PM

Not really understand, why the problems in the world are always, blamed on the Chinese or Russians.

Just look at our own countries and the shit their involved in.

**tomcat** · 14-04-2020, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chico

Not really understand, why the problems in the world are always, blamed on the Chinese or Russians.

Just look at our own countries and the shit their involved in.

..occasionally, their shit smells worse...

**HuangLao** · 14-04-2020, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by tomcat

..occasionally, their shit smells worse...

More often...[not occasionally].

Nice subtle defence though, TC.

**cyrille** · 14-04-2020, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jofrey

Not apologising for the re-education/concentration camps in China as you well know

Well no, but what you did do was compare how things have been going for the most disadvantaged groups in one country, and compare it to how things have gone for the most privileged in another.

Trump would like to see the press muzzled in the US as it is in much of Asia, that's for sure.

I'm hesitant about believing a word that comes out of China, personally.

Korea is more of a model imo.

As for Uighurs being overworked, that seems to be the very best they could hope for.

Originally Posted by Chico

Not really understand

You ask my frien you.

I think speak more good than you.

**YourDaddy** · 14-04-2020, 06:44 PM

China is great and there is nothing hotter than a commie chick

**OhOh** · 14-04-2020, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

as well as the high probability

'arry's falling down the chart again.

Weekly Position Statement

1. Proven fact
2. It's highly likely
3. Most people agree

4. High probability

5. Some people say
6. Probably
7. A friend told me
8. goldilocks said

**OhOh** · 14-04-2020, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by tomcat

their shit smells worse..

Accepting you are connoisseur of that practice, you should know.

**OhOh** · 14-04-2020, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

Trump likes to see his own "press" muzzled

FIFY.

**harrybarracuda** · 14-04-2020, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by OhOh

'arry's falling down the chart again.

Weekly Position Statement

1. Proven fact
2. It's highly likely
3. Most people agree

4. High probability

5. Some people say
6. Probably
7. A friend told me
8. goldilocks said

Yes, I'm being overly cautious.

Nailed on fucking certainty then.

**Jofrey** · 14-04-2020, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by cyrille

but what you did do was compare how things have been going for the most disadvantaged groups in one country, and compare it to how things have gone for the most privileged in another.

The African-American community in USA with most privileged who?

**Chico** · 15-04-2020, 03:08 AM

I'd say listening to the fellow members residing in China, I know which part of the world I'd rather be if another Pandemic kicked off.

**Iceman123** · 15-04-2020, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Chico

I'd say listening to the fellow members residing in China, I know which part of the world I'd rather be if another Pandemic kicked off.

Let me guess, “ La La “ land, don’t worry you’re there already.

**panama hat** · 15-04-2020, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by Chico

I'd say listening to the fellow members residing in China, I know which part of the world I'd rather be if another Pandemic kicked off

Uganda?

**Chico** · 15-04-2020, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Let me guess

Be dangerous that.....

**Saint Willy** · 15-04-2020, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Chico

Be dangerous that.....

nope, not dangerous at all. You are as predictable as a walnut, probably of the same intelligence too

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