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    A broader view on the basis of a United Nations Report - selected data cut and pasted

    http://www.unicef.org/thailand/media...esolution).pdf

    Thailand Migration Report 2019 | IOM Thailand


    THAILAND MIGRATION REPORT

    The number of non-Thai residents within the country has increased form an estimated 3.7 million in 2014 to 4.9 million in 2018, which includes approximately 3.9 million migrant workers from Cambodia, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Myanmar and Vietnam.

    The majority work in low skilled occupations, though there are more than 110,000 skilled professionals in Thailand and other major groups.

    Total Non-Thai Population 4,898,461
    Low-Skilled CLMV Migrants 3,897,598
    Stateless and Hill Tribes 552,923
    Temporary Stay 200,110
    Professional and Skilled Workers 112,834
    Refugees and Asylum Seekers 103,425
    Tertiary Students 31,571

    Temporary Stay
    Stay with Thais 37,822 stay
    Stay with a resident family 23,640 stay
    Stay with Thai Spouse 16,276 stay
    Retirement 72,969 stay
    Special – Investment 45,882 stay and work
    Special – Industrial Estates 2,331 stay and work
    Special – Petroleum 1,190 stay and work

    Total(s) 150,707 stay 49,403 stay and work 200,110 All


    Many women are the main breadwinners for their families through their employment in Thailand. Official data shows that about half of the migrant workers in Thailand are women.

    Female migrant workers 50%

    Each year migrant workers in Thailand send USD 2.8 billion in remittances through formal channels to Cambodia, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Myanmar and Vietnam.

    Migrants constitute aver 10 per cent of Thailand’s labor force and contribute between 4.3 and 6.6 per cent of gross domestic product.

    An estimated 64 per cent of regular migrants (1.97 million) are enrolled in a public health insurance scheme but the share drops to 51 per cent if irregular migrants are also included.

    More than 164,000 migrant children are enrolled in school within Thailand. At the same time, about 200,000 are not receiving any form of education.

    A total of 455 individuals in Thailand were officially identified as trafficked persons in 2017, however, the real scale of the problem is difficult to ascertain.

    Survey results suggests the average monthly wages in agriculture (THB 6,000) and fishing (THB 7,730) are significantly below the minimum wage in Thailand.

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    living in Thailand has always been a bit of a nightmare from day 1, but you find compensation and excuses to stay

    compensation and an active social life eventually become the main interests because that's the only thing that keeps you there,

    remove that, and it's hell on earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Foreign residents
    Suspect they are the ones on annual extensions.

    The ones on multi-entry visas that come and go, or use it to stay here doing border runs every 90 days probably add 20%.

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    going back as a tourist and revisiting places is actually more pleasant

    and life in europe is 'rich' in culture and social activities, what a nice change

    instead of going to shopping malls, and commercial events in Siam center, or following the latest fads for chicken heads and superficial socialites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    instead of going to shopping malls, and commercial events in Siam center, or following the latest fads for chicken heads and superficial socialites
    I personally LOVE the temples and the endless supply of Chang Beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    life in europe is 'rich' in culture and social activities
    If you speak the local lingo and attend social activities so is Thailand.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    If you speak the local lingo and attend social activities so is Thailand.
    honestly, no

    maybe for a few months, and after that it gets very repetitive, and lack depth. I think eventually you learn to lower your expectations and be content with so little

    I can walk down the streets and in 10min be in a museum looking at Gauguin and Toulouse Lautrec paintings

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    ^ And we have nothing?



    A mural of Wat Chiang Man being constructed in 1297.

    It still stands.

    I'm so happy I'm gone.-8bb7e3a8-6f19-4d57-8070-6abdaae47bd0-jpeg
    What a Euro-snob.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails I'm so happy I'm gone.-3ad1e319-69af-4e7a-bc38-5bb0a5baab3a-jpeg   I'm so happy I'm gone.-8bb7e3a8-6f19-4d57-8070-6abdaae47bd0-jpeg  
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    ^99% of Thai temples look garishly hideous but that actually looks good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    and life in europe is 'rich' in culture and social activities
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I can walk down the streets and in 10min be in a museum looking at Gauguin and Toulouse Lautrec paintings
    Yet you log on here every lunchtime and stay for hours every day.

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    they ( thai temples) mostly look like kitsch disneyland illusions, and whilst the few remaining ancient ones posses a deep patina, can be atmospheric and certainly exude gravitas, the newer ones seem increasingly gaudy and cheap and exist purely to raise donations so that yet another shiny sala or enormous statue can be added.

    thai culture is more or less non existent. it appears to revolve around an appreciation of food and its preparation, the carving of vegetables and soap and punch and judy like puppet shows. there is little in the way of written history, theatre, inquisitive discourse, intellectual literature, scientific discovery or music and other than the temples, there is little in the way of unique local architecture that has not been copied/adapted from either european or chinese sources.

    the thai are still waiting for their equivalent of the enlightenment that transformed philosophical and intellectual development in europe during the 17th to 19th centuries, and until free speech becomes the norm and students are taught the importance of inquisitiveness and the questioning of the status quo from an early age, they will have to continue waiting.

    and until that happens, thai culture will be stuck in the trough of immature naivety that it has inhabited for the past few hundred years.

    nothing wrong with a love of food and carved veggies of course, and the thai mantra "don tink 2 mut" is increasingly relevant in todays anxiety ridden world and the west could certainly learn from it.
    Last edited by taxexile; 06-02-2020 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You are presuming things are and will remain so. I presume each has expat websites where the fat is chewed, any exiting to another alleged LOS, resident's numbers increasing or reducing?
    Better bet than not this supposed exodus is rather exaggerated. Actual figures of Farang residency have probably remained the same or increased slightly.
    Easier to consider the source if derived from the usual individual that has manufactured bad experiences where bitterness/judgement comes into play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Yet you log on here every lunchtime and stay for hours every day.
    and have time for a wank, and buying a sandwitch or a khebab, so again what's your point you stupid boring twat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    ^99% of Thai temples look garishly hideous but that actually looks good!
    indeed, quite bland, no character, and tax pretty much said it all in his rant above

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    There is no mass exodus. Most farang there have family anyway- I seperated from the x about 2.5 years ago, so it was much easier to up sticks. Even then I hung around in Pattaya for a year or so. Wouldn't live in rural Isaan though as a single bloke. Easy enough to go back too, should I choose- there are much worse places than Pattaya! Or CM. But there are many options, and Thailand doesn't currently figure at the top of my list. I'm pretty sure I'm correct saying more westerners are leaving than coming, and when you look at the other options available, not hard to figure why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Wouldn't live in rural Isaan though as a single bloke
    I only know one. Odd looking guy with a skinny left arm and this huge right arm.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    ^Was that the guy that had "Wife" tattooed on one hand and "Mia Noi" on the other?
    "I can't be worried about that shit. Life goes on, man."
    ~The Dude

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    ^^ Did he develop that after he became single?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    ^Was that the guy that had "Wife" tattooed on one hand and "Mia Noi" on the other?
    You know him as well. Small world innit.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    ^^ Did he develop that after he became single?
    Now you mention it, he did indeed.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Well this Thread went to the singles bar...

    I mean come on. Who whacks their pud in Thailand. FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    I mean come on. Who whacks their pud in Thailand. FFS.
    You cheat on the missus when away on work Jay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Actual figures of Farang residency have probably remained the same or increased slightly.

    Well gee, thanks for that wild guess from Portland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    You cheat on the missus when away on work Jay?
    Nope. We see each other enough and when we do..well.....its on every day until I return back or she heads home. . FFS, who flogs their dick if they are married?

    With all your Misses and Mia Nois, you wank Lu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    If you speak the local lingo and attend social activities so is Thailand.
    Speaking the local lingo opens so many doors, and takes away a lot of the stress and loneliness caused by language barriers.

    My Japanese is at the point where I am not bothered in which language is used. I look back at times when I was stressed living here, and can now put it down to the fact that my language skills were the cause.

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