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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    No doubt he is a twat but the woman concerned is just looking for money.
    TBH I think the amount of money she could make out of the book and TV appearances in seppoland would dwarf anything he could afford.
    I doubt mummy will chip in, she appears to be dropping him like a hot potato.

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    Yep, but too little and too late. The Queen is wearing this disgrace also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Yep, but too little and too late. The Queen is wearing this disgrace also.
    I don't think so. He was an adult who made his own decisions. She has been disassociating him from the family since it came out.


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    From Maitlis to Mateless , no sweat, Randy Andy, Dandy Mandy where was handy Candy?
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    Prince Andrew BBC faux pas with advisors like his I'd be a spellchecker mogul.




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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I don't think so. He was an adult who made his own decisions. She has been disassociating him from the family since it came out.


    Bollocks, she has been protecting him and trying to hide him ever since. Her first reaction was an honour, gave him the medal of something, took him in mommy’s car to Church to pray together. Finally stripped him of his titles and duties ranks because she had no other choice, over 2 years too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    No doubt he is a twat but the woman concerned is just looking for money.
    Of course she is and PA will pay the piper for his poor judgement in selecting his friends.
    Agree with Willy. Too late for Liz to boot him. Only reason she did was because of negative media coverage. Otherwise, would have been covered up as no doubt many royal indescretions are.
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    That Prince Andrew interview-20220115_004631-jpg

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    The Crown policy has always been to say no comment, until a finding of guilty has been announced. She is still his mum, but removing any privileges now just makes him look guilty.
    Its clear that the firm have discussed the case in detail, and found him guilty by association if nothing else.

    The monarchy, in the form of HM Queen Elizabeth, will always supersede family. It has always been the case. Insulate the house of Windsor above all else.
    The bad smell remains, whatever she does in public.

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    Which might work in a divorce case or public drunkenness. But The Firm has seriously underestimated the severity of this case & the court of public opinion starting back with him spending a week in the same house/flat as a proven pedophile.

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    Guilty by social media. The new justice paradigm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Which might work in a divorce case or public drunkenness. But The Firm has seriously underestimated the severity of this case & the court of public opinion starting back with him spending a week in the same house/flat as a proven pedophile.
    Quite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Guilty by social media. The new justice paradigm.
    An utterly ridiculous comment from you, as per.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    Which might work in a divorce case or public drunkenness. But The Firm has seriously underestimated the severity of this case & the court of public opinion starting back with him spending a week in the same house/flat as a proven pedophile.
    It is a civil action against one of her children. Admittedly a very stupid one. The Queen has gone out on a limb to offer him protection as his mum. In her capacity as sovereign, she has a greater duty to protect the crown.
    I think as a colonial, you are over complicating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWilly View Post
    The Queen is wearing this disgrace also.
    When an adult who’s now 60 years old does wrong, his mum shares some responsibility for his actions?

    You’re working this hard.

    And he’ll be tried by a court, not social or any other kind of media, Neal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    his mum shares some responsibility for his actions?
    Did I say that?

    Her protection of him is what I referred to.

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    What happened this week left Andrew to be tried as a private citizen.

    PM me if you’re confused about any more basic, obvious facts on this.

    Happy to help - just to save you the trouble of the first pm, someone who has sex with a seventeen year old is not a paedophile.

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    Now, pretend you think I’m condoning his actions.

    That’s the next one, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    What happened this week left Andrew to be tried as a private citizen.

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    Indeed so. This action to cut him lose or distance the crown from him only came about 750 days late.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    someone who has sex with a seventeen year old is not a paedophile.
    Thank you for pointing that out. I should have sex offender. But btw Epstein was abusing girls much younger than 17, perhaps as young as 14. Questions of Preferential Treatment Are Raised in Florida Sex Case - The New York TimesQuestions of Preferential Treatment Are Raised in Florida Sex Case - The New York Times

    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Now, pretend you think I’m condoning his actions.

    That’s the next one, right?

    Why the need to be a twat? Is it because you have little argument? Feeling the need to protect the Crown? Does someone insulting your Queen offend your petty nationalist tendencies?

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    In fairness to the Queen he is her son and by all accounts once her favourite. It must have been hard for her to metaphorically cut him adrift and having to do so publicly. His judgement was apalling for a man in his position. Whether just a totally clueless idiot or complicit, the mud will stick.
    In all this one would have to wonder where were his advisers. It is difficult to believe that someone did not warn him (if he did not know himself) that this was a person he should not be associating with as a prince of the realm. It beggars belief there weren't at least rumours circulating about Epstein, who has become the new Emanuel Goldstein 25 years on with Maxwell and Andrew his accolytes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    It must have been hard for her to metaphorically cut him adrift and having to do so publicly
    Charles and Andrew forced her hand and rightly so.

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    Since the death of her father, the Queen has had to deal with a dysfunctional family. Margaret, Charles, Diana, Edward Harry and others have all let her down as she struggled with two responsibilities , often pulling her in different directions.
    She is the head of the family, and she has to meet the duty as a mother, with her responsibility to the Crown.
    Only Anne and William have performed the supportive roles required of them without letting her down.

    There must be an element of frustration among the lesser royals as their route to the top of the family tree is subsumed by the birth of yet more siblings to replace them.

    Anne, despite her divorce has accomplished this with diligence and a certain hard working grace. William just goes from strength to strength in the pecking order.

    Mindful of her role as head of the house of Windsor, the Queen has had to cut the Royal ties and responsibilities of her second son. She is still his mum, no matter how old and stupid he becomes.

    Not an easy task when you consider that next in line is Price Charles!
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    Umm... the Queen's father was King George VI not Edward VIII...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    In fairness to the Queen he is her son and by all accounts once her favourite. It must have been hard for her to metaphorically cut him adrift and having to do so publicly. His judgement was apalling for a man in his position. Whether just a totally clueless idiot or complicit, the mud will stick.
    In all this one would have to wonder where were his advisers. It is difficult to believe that someone did not warn him (if he did not know himself) that this was a person he should not be associating with as a prince of the realm. It beggars belief there weren't at least rumours circulating about Epstein, who has become the new Emanuel Goldstein 25 years on with Maxwell and Andrew his accolytes.
    someone known as the duchess of pork was also involved with epstain.havnt seen anything about her being involved,yet she was any-pandy's husband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headhunter View Post
    someone known as the duchess of pork was also involved with epstain.havnt seen anything about her being involved,yet she was any-pandy's husband.
    So willy reckons Andrew's 97 year old mum bears some responsibility, and you reckon his wife must be involved.

    Infidelity must be a real family affair for some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    And he’ll be tried by a court, not social or any other kind of media, Neal.
    But the world thinks he is guilty already!

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