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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Kim's partner when he started Jools was Mathew Swire who still has a share in Cathay Pacific Airlines among other company divisions so I believe.
    Matt was a great guy as well. An old Aussie sex pat named Gordon Purdue was a major investor in many of the earlier bars. He would stay at the Nana and hold court for up to a month at a time. Shorts, knee high socks and loafers were his thing...

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    Never spent much time in Nana. Although Chequers Bar and Joolz on soi 4 were good places to drink. Once spent a mad Songkran there for a few days in the mid 90's when the rest of the city appeared deserted and we drove on the Expressway for about 1 minute with no other cars in sight. Surreal moment. .
    Otherwise, used to spend a lot of time on Suk 23 in the New Cowboy bar as a mate owned it back then, and frequented a few Thai "Gentlemen's Clubs" (there was one called "Oui" which was outstanding) with some seriously-minted Thai businessmen we were working with at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Although Chequers Bar and Joolz on soi 4 were good places to drink
    The thing that made those bars good were the characters that drank there.

    Always good banter and no birds bothering you.

    Plus the food was a good reason to go there.

    I also met a number of lads during the mid 90's who I later found out were Teakdoor members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Matt was a great guy as well.
    Jesus H C, we're going down memory lane here . I met Matty Swire in Manila in the 80's, and believe that was where his first foray into the bar-game was. He was partnered up in a bar called Thriller on Del Pilar and the main owner's name was Michael Jackson (I shit you not!).

    I didn't know about Kim Fletcher's origins in Bangkok, and don't know him well but first met him when he was running Shenanigans under the Loyen Garden Hotel in Pattaya sometime around 1999.

    And if we're talking about Woodstock we have to mention G-Spot next door, which would be one of the best Gogo bars I've ever pushed a curtain aside to enter. A free pitcher of pool water goes to the first playa who remembers what was in the back left-hand corner .

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    ^ I still see Kim Fletcher a few times a week and Matty Swire is apparently due back in Pattaya later this month.

    Kim now owns Fletcher's Folly on Siam Country Club Rd and Matty is back working on the families' Cruise Liners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Jesus H C, we're going down memory lane here . I met Matty Swire in Manila in the 80's, and believe that was where his first foray into the bar-game was. He was partnered up in a bar called Thriller on Del Pilar and the main owner's name was Michael Jackson (I shit you not!).

    I didn't know about Kim Fletcher's origins in Bangkok, and don't know him well but first met him when he was running Shenanigans under the Loyen Garden Hotel in Pattaya sometime around 1999.

    And if we're talking about Woodstock we have to mention G-Spot next door, which would be one of the best Gogo bars I've ever pushed a curtain aside to enter. A free pitcher of pool water goes to the first playa who remembers what was in the back left-hand corner .
    Blowjob corner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    Santos I believe was Indian and owned a live music venue on soi 4 of which he sold many times over, without the knowledge of his partners, and I heard he pocketed about 16 million baht before being locked up.

    He come across as a very likeable bloke and I was surprised when he got busted.

    My bar of choice was Jools owned originally by Kim Fletcher and I still meet up with some of the lads I met there all those years ago.

    i also knew Taffy quite well and he was quite famous for his free barbecues not his hairy pies.

    My office is situated on Soi 4 and I avoid the Plaza these days as it is just not as good as it was.
    I'm pretty sure he was Sri Lankan, although he might have been Goan.

    He also had The Warbler, further down Soi 4. The whole thing was stolen from a bar in Bahrain of the same name, he even nicked the menu and the logo.

    Shame he fucked it up, he was doing quite well with those two venues at one point. He started shuffling to and fro to Pattaya with the intention of opening up something there. I think that's where the "getting investors" idea came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    The thing that made those bars good were the characters that drank there.

    Always good banter and no birds bothering you.

    Plus the food was a good reason to go there.

    I also met a number of lads during the mid 90's who I later found out were Teakdoor members.
    Kim has sort of retired from his Pattaya adventures, although his wife now has a bar called "Fletcher's Folly" and I think he "does PR" for her for want of a better phrase.

    I'd be surprised if Kim isn't a member here.

    I remember being asked in Jools if I wanted to share a taxi to DM with some seppo who was on his way back to Aramco. He couldn't keep up with Jools rotational drinking policy. I literally had to carry him through the airport and get him on the plane. He woke up over India with no clue how he got there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was Sri Lankan
    He told me he was Indian and the Indian food he sold in Warbler was very good from memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Shame he fucked it up, he was doing quite well with those two venues at one point
    Warbler was the late night live music venue and very often it was packed.

    I often sat in on drums especially when Big Jeff, the huge Scandaholigan guitarist was playing a gig.

    Santos' missus also had a hair dressing salon further down Soi 4 and she was doing very well also.

    I agree that it was a shame greed got to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Kim has sort of retired from his Pattaya adventures
    That is what he tells everyone but rest assured everything still revolves around him, although he doesn't do anything apart from drink alcohol.

    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    He couldn't keep up with Jools rotational drinking policy.
    Not many could particularly when big Dave was in his big chair.

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    Another great character and bar owner was Big Wes who had the Hogsbreath. Sundays were spent there having the free chili, watching sport on TV and very often nursing a hangover. Lots of sport newspapers as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Another great character and bar owner was Big Wes who had the Hogsbreath. Sundays were spent there having the free chili, watching sport on TV and very often nursing a hangover. Lots of sport newspapers as well.
    Thats a character i had forgotten about, Big bearded fellow, was a good friend of a friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    That is what he tells everyone but rest assured everything still revolves around him, although he doesn't do anything apart from drink alcohol.


    How the hell does that man still have a liver - I used to wonder how he was still alive over 20 years ago, certainly consumed his share of alcohol!

    Not many could particularly when big Dave was in his big chair.
    That was a BIG chair, wonder where that ended up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    That was a BIG chair, wonder where that ended up?
    When Big Dave got married he weighed around 215 kgs, hence the big chair.

    Last I heard about the chair it was sent to Pattaya when Dave and Kim opened TQ 2 which didn't last very long.

    I will check with Kim today where it is now.

    And last I heard about Big Dave his weight had dropped to 110 kgs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    He told me he was Indian and the Indian food he sold in Warbler was very good from memory.
    Yeah, thinking back (it's going back a while!) I think you are right, and I think he was from Goa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    When Big Dave got married he weighed around 215 kgs, hence the big chair.

    Last I heard about the chair it was sent to Pattaya when Dave and Kim opened TQ 2 which didn't last very long.

    I will check with Kim today where it is now.

    And last I heard about Big Dave his weight had dropped to 110 kgs.
    I must admit I rarely visit Nana these days - is Jools still going and does it still have the same ethos? IIRC Dave moved on years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Blowjob corner?
    No, you'd be thinking of After School on Cowboy for that in the back left hand corner (according to a friend, who said handjobs with baby oil were also known to happen to anyone silly enough to sit in that corner with no pants on, for the 5th time that week).

    G-Spot had a large glass fronted shower that girls would get in and help wash each other till they were squeaky clean. Beat the hell out of watching soccer .

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    I was gonna say shower. So Spankys was the old G Spot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    And last I heard about Big Dave his weight had dropped to 110 kgs.
    He was a big lad. I'm honestly surprised to hear that he is still about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    His is Bernard Trink and he wrote the "Night Owl". The most read columnist the Post ever had or will have.
    And still unashamedly watching NSFW stuff on his office computer until they finally managed to wheel him out of there in the mid-2000s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKW View Post
    A favourite of teachers due to the 100 baht all the Chang you can drink from 4.00pm-8.00pm every night.
    It was a fun place to have that after work beer. At the time, the shops would sell three large Changs and a bag of ice for 100B.

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    You know something is missing when the 1990s and 2000s are romantically waxed upon as the good old days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    three large Changs and a bag of ice for 100B.
    I do remember that. Used to be my Friday night routine. Stop at the pet shop to buy some bait fish (20B) to feed the Oscars, stop off to get my 3 Changs and some durian (in season). Eventually the Changovers got too hard, too much pain for so little alcohol ingested.


    My Nana recollections are not as happy as otters. I remember the pre Taksin drug war era when ยาบ้า was flooding the streets and you could get 3 pills for as little as a 100 baht. I took a stroll down Nana and the girls all looked like twitchy Skeletors. There was a dark vibe about the place. I went back to the beer bars on Soi 22.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Jools still going and does it still have the same ethos
    Shut down about two years ago - maybe less, was a shadow of its former self, actually it was a dump! Half the bar had been turned into a streetside bar. without a great deal of success and it showed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    When Big Dave got married he weighed around 215 kgs, hence the big chair.

    Last I heard about the chair it was sent to Pattaya when Dave and Kim opened TQ 2 which didn't last very long.

    I will check with Kim today where it is now.

    And last I heard about Big Dave his weight had dropped to 110 kgs.
    It was still there when TQ2 was open as was living in Bangkok but would drink in TQ2 at the weekends, probably a family sofa somewhere now! I heard he had lost a lot of weight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Barty View Post
    He was a big lad. I'm honestly surprised to hear that he is still about.
    He was a big unit for sure! I used to eat breakfast there when it was quite and the chair was unoccupied the enormity of it was more obvious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Jesus H C, we're going down memory lane here . I met Matty Swire in Manila in the 80's, and believe that was where his first foray into the bar-game was. He was partnered up in a bar called Thriller on Del Pilar and the main owner's name was Michael Jackson (I shit you not!).

    I didn't know about Kim Fletcher's origins in Bangkok, and don't know him well but first met him when he was running Shenanigans under the Loyen Garden Hotel in Pattaya sometime around 1999.

    And if we're talking about Woodstock we have to mention G-Spot next door, which would be one of the best Gogo bars I've ever pushed a curtain aside to enter. A free pitcher of pool water goes to the first playa who remembers what was in the back left-hand corner .
    Yep. I remember michael jackson from angeles. The bar in manila (thriller) had gone to shit after mayor lims purge basicly turning the area into a slum and ghost town Always a very well dressed geezer and quietly spoken . I dont think he got his "manila mojo" back in angeles and became increasingly dishevelled. Wonder where he ended up? But sadly for the life of me i cant remember what was in the back left hand corner of d woodstock. I will have a think

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