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    HIV/AIDS is still a BIG DANGER in Thailand

    HIV/AIDS is still a BIG DANGER in Thailand






    Thailand remains a favorite destination for sex tourists regardless of the high risk of HIV/AIDS.

    Thai nationals are often careless about the risks of infection as many simply believe it ‘can’t happen to them.’

    Thai culture encourages young people not to have any sexual experience before they are married.
    But most male teenagers reaching puberty ignore social warnings or a way of life that is considered old fashioned.
    According to immunologist Vicham Vithayasai, 60 percent of 15-year-olds and 80 percent of 18-year-olds already have visited prostitutes.
    ‘Young kids who haven’t had sex yet are teased by their friends,’ Vithayasai said. It was always possible to find a reason to have sex, whether you are taking the boss out, or visiting a new city, he said.



    ‘The attitude is that if you haven’t had sex there, you haven’t really been there,’ he said.
    Women suffer the consequences

    As in most societies Thai men believe they should be sowing their wild oats whislt their women are expected to be virgins when they marry.
    For a woman to have sex before marriage is seen as an unforgivable slur on the family’s honor and reputation.
    If the husbands have affairs or visit prostitutes, women often bear it silently and accept the situation.

    It was too late when Karuna, a 26-year-old mother of two, realized that her husband’s affair would be fatal for her.
    “I trusted him – and so I didn’t use protection,” Karuna said. Now she is HIV-positive.

    In contrast to the West, AIDS in Thailand is transmitted 95 percent by heterosexuals. Thai men often infect their partners and then blame the westernization of their society for the problem.
    They complain that traditional values and behavioral patterns are being eroded. The fact that it is mostly the men contributing to the spread of HIV is simply ignored.
    Equal rights for men and women?

    The Thai constitution guarantees men and women equal rights. Still, many of the country’s laws contradict the 1997 constitutional amendment, said Virada Somswadi, who teaches social sciences at the University of Chiang Mai. Equality in everyday life does not exist, she said.

    Her whole life, the Thai woman has to fight her way in a blatantly patriarchal macho system,’ said Somswadi, who has been fighting for women’s rights for more than 20 years. ‘It’s a system that denies her the same rights as the men.‘
    More education necessary

    The first official AIDS-related illness was recorded in Thailand in 1984. In reality, the virus was already widespread in the country by then.

    In 1992, Prime Minister Anand Panyarachun started the ‘100-percent condoms’ initiative.
    But the government’s condom promotion was only a short-term solution to try to reduce infection rates.

    They failed to back it up with programs that would properly educate men on the dangers of unprotected sexual promiscuity and, therefore, failed to convince Thai men to change their sexual lifestyles.
    As long as wives continue to blindly trust their husbands, they run the risk of getting infected. Mostly they don’t understand that they are in any danger, or that using a condom considerably reduces any risk of infection

    Since HIV/AIDS was first reported, 1,115,415 adults had been infected by 2008 and 585,830 of those had died.


    PATTAYA GIRLS ‘USING FAKE CERTIFICATES’ SAYING THEY’RE HIV FREE

    By 2008 650,000 Thai people were living with HIV/AIDS and in 2009 1.3% of the population had been infected. This is a Thai statistic so the reality of the epidemic is likely to be very much higher than that.
    By 2010 Thailand had, by far, the worst HIV/AIDS problem in Asia.

    An estimated 1.3 million people in Thailand are thought to currently be HIV-positive. Half of the recent cases are women who were infected by their husbands or their partners.
    Although there has been some decline in reported cases of HIV/AIDS in Thailand, this is more likely to be statistical manipulation than it is an improvement



    In fact the epidemic has moved to the general population and there is a greater need to match prevention efforts throughout the country than ever before.

    Despite the efforts going into education and anti-HIV strategies, it is estimated condom use remains very low.
    Recently the Department of Disease Control (DDC) estimated that 60% of sexually active teenagers and over 50% of the countries sex-workers still do not regularly use condoms.
    A 2011 report from the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) identified Thailand among the eleven countries in the Asia-Pacific with a majority of the world’s HIV-infected people.

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    There were 6,400 new HIV infections in Thailand in 2016. Most will have occurred through unprotected sex, which is estimated to account for 90% of all new HIV infections. Unsafe injecting drug use is the second biggest transmission route.
    Increased access to prevention services has resulted in new infections decreasing among some groups, however they are rising among others.

    For example, while the rate of new infections through injecting drug use steadily decreased between 1995 and 2015, the rate of new infections through male-to-male sex dramatically increased over the same period.

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    Read an article recently about the highest numbers of STD and HIV spreaders in Thailand being Western men over the age of 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Read an article recently about the highest numbers of STD and HIV spreaders in Thailand being Western men over the age of 50
    Must be true then since it was a written article...
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    i actually had the pleasure of meeting Khun Meechai the Condom King last week at a work lunch. It would be a shame if all the good work they did was undone by a generation forgetting the lessons of 20 years ago
    Apparently he's half Scottish which i never knew
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Read an article recently about the highest numbers of STD and HIV spreaders in Thailand being Western men over the age of 50.
    The same source you get your info on Thomas Cook and BREXIT from?

    Shame you never can find a link to it.

    70 million Thais in the country, and who knows how many impoverished hill tribe people plagued by drugs, yet your sparrow-like brain has a nugget like this embedded in it.


    What complete and utter cobblers....again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Read an article recently about the highest numbers of STD and HIV spreaders in Thailand being Western men over the age of 50
    Well, I would be interested to read through that.

    In the meantime, I found the Thailand National Strategy on STIs prevention and control (2017-2021). As far as a quick skim goes, I could find nothing on foreigners. A more careful read might I suppose. From my (again) quick skim, the target seems to be primarily young people, aged 15 to 24 who have shown a big rise in syphilis and gonorrhea over the last few years.
    http://www.searo.who.int/thailand/ar...7-2021-eng.pdf

    Still, I suppose this is from the government, and you can't trust those buggers, eh. Although its unusual for them NOT to scapegoat foreigners as the cause of Thailands woes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinvented View Post
    i actually had the pleasure of meeting Khun Meechai the Condom King last week at a work lunch. It would be a shame if all the good work they did was undone by a generation forgetting the lessons of 20 years ago
    Apparently he's half Scottish which i never knew
    Apparently, his "Cabbages & Condoms" restaurants are still doing well.. Although for the life of me, I cannot think of a more unappetizing restaurant name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Apparently, his "Cabbages & Condoms" restaurants are still doing well.. Although for the life of me, I cannot think of a more unappetizing restaurant name.
    I've been to the Bangkok restaurant more then a few times ... tourists (my relatives and friends) love it.

    Average food @ Tourist prices, but an upper level seat overlooking the courtyard is nice.

    I do like the Lassies playing the xylophone though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Apparently, his "Cabbages & Condoms" restaurants are still doing well.. Although for the life of me, I cannot think of a more unappetizing restaurant name.
    Just remember that the profits go to the Population & Community Development Association (PDA) and its programs in primary health, education, HIV/AIDS, rural development, environment and water etc. So, worth a visit.

    I do like the place, the food is palatable by both Thais and foreigners, so it can be a good compromise place when hosting a mixed group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Just remember that the profits go to the Population & Community Development Association (PDA) and its programs in primary health, education, HIV/AIDS, rural development, environment and water etc. So, worth a visit.

    I do like the place, the food is palatable by both Thais and foreigners, so it can be a good compromise place when hosting a mixed group.
    +1

    Have seen many who fit's Nid's description above, especially what seems at a corporate level ... "I do like the place, the food is palatable by both Thais and foreigners, so it can be a good compromise place when hosting a mixed group."
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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    I've been to the Bangkok restaurant more then a few times ...

    I do like the Lassies playing the xylophone though.
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    I'm just wondering when snakeypoos throught it *wasn't* a danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    I do like the place, the food is palatable by both Thais and foreigners, so it can be a good compromise place when hosting a mixed group.
    Exactly. A great introduction to Thai food for guests, and reasonable/OK Thai food for residents and Thai.

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    the one on the road to Chiang Rai serves food that tastes like cabbages and condoms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Read an article recently about the highest numbers of STD and HIV spreaders in Thailand being Western men over the age of 50
    Given your frequent, incoherent and stupid posts founded on fantasy and ignorance, I should imagine the spirochaetes are already burrowing deep inside what passes for your brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Just remember that the profits go to the Population & Community Development Association (PDA) and its programs in primary health, education, HIV/AIDS, rural development, environment and water etc. So, worth a visit.

    I do like the place, the food is palatable by both Thais and foreigners, so it can be a good compromise place when hosting a mixed group.
    It used to be a good venue for the tourist who wanted to consume a more 'western' friendly iteration of Thai food that retained a decent sense of authenticity but that was way, way long ago. It sold out years ago in pandering to the lowest common denominator of mass tourism and became no more than a sludge of pre-prepped pap as Thai as Hollywood's King & I.The one in So12 Sukhumvit turned first in 2011 and the Pratumnak 'Birds & Bees' followed when they expanded and started luring tour groups.

    British Thai restaurants run by Thai families are far, far better than that shite churned out by Khun Meechai these days.

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    ^ Fair enough, I have not been for a good few years. Will bear your comments in mind.

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    I stayed in an Air BnB just past it on the same soi (suk 12) about a month ago.

    In three nights I literally never saw a punter in there.

    Admittedly it was only week nights.

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    The wingman and I would often go there for meet-ups in the early Noughties because it was a nice place with helpful enthusiastic staff and good food that came up to the mark in the 'aroi' stakes. The branch at Pratumnak was damn good before they increased its size. Started the drift into the bland and anodyne by 2009. We stopped going in 2011 when everything went up in price, the food was delivered lukewarm and as vibrant and tasty as a bad memory. Maybe things have improved but I somehow doubt it given standards have fallen across the board in the past years as profits are squeezed.

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    Always seemed to me that there were dozens of places most likely just as good...at a fraction of the price.

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    It's a minor novelty, and the food and service has declined noticeably over the years.

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