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    Apparently MM is triggered. Doesn't have any impact on your life so live and let live. Nothing more sensitive than white conservatives.

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    I really find the "white guys" comments weird. It's just a meaningless cliche, but it does carry some rather unpleasant sentiment, imho. The 'old' element likewise - what'sso terrible about being old? Is this some new form of old person shaming???

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    this article should clear up any confusion.




    Hobbit Humphrey: Parents keep baby’s sex a secret to avoid gender bias
    Tom Ball
    September 17 2019, 12:01am,
    The Times


    Jake England-Johns and Hobbit Humphrey have not revealed the sex of their baby


    A couple are bringing up a gender-neutral child by keeping its sex a secret even from close family.

    Hobbit Humphrey, 38, and Jake England-Johns, 35, call their 17-month-old by the pronoun “they” and dress them in both girls’ and boys’ clothing.

    They admit that the approach has resulted in “some pretty confused looks from old ladies in the park”. Even the child’s grandmother discovered their sex only at 11 months when she changed a nappy.

    The pair, who are circus performers and members of the climate action group Extinction Rebellion, say that they hope the decision will enable the child to “grow into their own person”.

    Ms Humphrey, who lives with her husband on a houseboat in Keynsham, Somerset, said: “When I found out I was pregnant we spent those nine months discussing ways by which we could try and mitigate the gender bias that society places on children. Eventually, we decided that we wouldn’t tell people whether they were boy or girl.”

    The couple plan to allow the child, whom they have asked not to be named, to choose their gender when they are old enough. The decision has largely been met with bemusement.

    “The response was pretty mixed when we first told our friends and family and most people didn’t get it, with some people wanting just to ignore it,” Ms Humphrey said.

    “I don’t think people really took us seriously initially because what you say you’re going to do when you’re pregnant can often be very different later when you are faced with bringing up a crying, screaming baby.

    “But over a year in it’s clear that we are serious and gradually people have got used to it. Although, that still doesn’t stop some pretty confused looks from old ladies in the park when they come up to us and ask if they’re a boy or a girl. It can take a bit of explaining.”

    So dedicated to their child-rearing plan were the couple that they initially refused to tell Ms Humphrey’s mother, Camille, 64, the sex of her grandchild, revealing it only when they asked her to change the youngster’s nappy at 11 months.

    Although Ms Humphrey and Mr England-Johns have slowly begun to enlighten a handful of others — not wanting to deny the child “the joy of playing naked” — they stand by their original decision. “It was tricky at first when not only were we new parents but also new parents who had the problem of people getting upset about our baby being gender neutral,” Ms Humphrey said.

    “But in the end it has proven to be a really beautiful thing and we’ve had a lot of important conversations from it.

    “It has had the effect we wanted of letting our baby develop its own interests regardless of gender. So, for example, while they love having a dolls’ tea party every morning, they also are really fascinated by motorbikes and big machinery.

    “Eventually, once our baby is old enough, they can obviously decide for themselves what gender they want to be, but for now we just want them to be able to grow up in their own little bubble.”

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    Circus freak show.
    When young Indeterminate Humphrey-England-Johns has the terrible realisation that their surname is gender and nation specific they’ll presumably change it to Person-Country-Person and then might form a polyamory union with Random Variable and Notdefined Takeanyoneon and then the offsprings’ family name will be Person-Country-Person-Variable-Takeanyoneon and that will make it difficult to sign a cheque quickly.
    Last edited by docmartin; 17-09-2019 at 08:55 PM.

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    it must of known what gender it was when it opened its legs for it to impregnate it.

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    You can't be racist to white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    it must of known
    must of, eh?

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    yes, must of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    You can't be racist to white people.
    One shouldn't be racist, demeaning or discriminatory to any group of people, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    You can't be racist to white people.
    Why not? "White People" aka the caucasian race can be discriminated against. Usually referred to as reverse discrimination. But, it can, and does occur. And no, I'm not going to provide examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarilynMonroe View Post
    so they want to be identified as a man or woman
    Wrong.

    One should enquire what the person wants to be referred as, right? Not make assumptions based on .........

    Your teacher, in the video, I would place as an idiot which is of course, gender neutral, although that pronoun didn't appear as one of her 63.

    I suspect she may not be happy with that.

    Hands up if you agree?

    Is there a way of adding additional pronouns to the list?
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    yes, must of.

    Showing your taxi driver roots there, tax.

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    ...and most people didn’t get it, with some people wanting just to ignore it,”


    Sorry, is 'it' the baby? Bit rude IMHO

    Maybe similar to Thai BGs calling their John for the night (or even their long-term farang BF/husband) by the endearing term '
    มัน' (ie 'it')

    WTF was her mother thinking when she called her daughter 'Hobbit'?

    ... and then the offsprings’ family name will be Person-Country-Person-Variable-Takeanyoneon and that will make it difficult to sign a cheque quickly.


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    Maybe the baby was tiny and had broad hairy feet.

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    Before we go any further, can you all please state your preferred gender pronoun.
    Last edited by Neverna; 17-09-2019 at 09:55 PM. Reason: typo

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    Ponoun or punani ?

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    ^ Good catch.

    Type the pronoun. Send me the punani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Why not? "White People" aka the caucasian race can be discriminated against. Usually referred to as reverse discrimination. But, it can, and does occur. And no, I'm not going to provide examples.

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    Morgan Freeman has a very good take on racism.

    Stop talking about it.

    Asked what he thought about a black history month,he answered. Its American history.

    He once said you stop calling me black and I'll stop calling you white.

    asked if he thought Blacks were disadvantaged he answered I'm living proof we aren't.

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    Smoke a dobbie.
    Takes care of all your promoted and manufactured ills.


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    I'd prefer a doobie. Don't know what a "dobbie" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Apparently MM is triggered. Doesn't have any impact on your life so live and let live. Nothing more sensitive than white conservatives.
    Me, triggered? Nah, I thought the video was funny is all. It kind of puts all of this in perspective for Simon who was asking about 'they'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post

    Is there a way of adding additional pronouns to the list?
    Make them up as you go, why not.
    I can think of a lot of not so nice words, but they wouldn't be considered pronouns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    I'd prefer a doobie. Don't know what a "dobbie" is.
    I'm completely fcuking confused about non-binary pronouns-ee804b9c-7a56-45ea-bc07-8cdb3d815d7c-png

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    555 not sure I'd fancy a smoked dobbie

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