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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    ^Not to forget the conscription of all male citizens in peace-loving Switzerland with a compulsory boot camp 3 - 4 months and repeating 3 - 4 weeks every year, beside few Sundays obligatory shooting and inspection of their gear kept at home.
    Worth being enlisted just to get a spiffy Swiss Army penknife.. To guard all that looted Nazi treasure.

    Parade ground drills would be a hoot, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    ^Not required any more (unless you live in 3rd World fascist dictatorships, like Thailand). Technology has replaced a lot of military jobs, and the deterioration of decent wages in the US/UK ensures that there are long lines of grunts waiting to sign up. Especially when they've grown up watching bullshit Hollywood propaganda.
    British army recruitment shortfalls may be symptom of changing times


    Legacy of controversial Middle East conflicts and falling unemployment are among the deterrents






    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/09/british-army-recruitment-shortfalls-may-be-symptoms-of-changing-times

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    This congress member, a vet, apparently isn't interested in providing services to vets.

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    Pues, aquí estamos.

    Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

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    Ouch! Feel the Bern!

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    A Shout Out to Our Veterans-20161123_151406-2-jpgOOps, not what I was looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I had occasion to travel to Iran several times mid 70s. Fantastic nation and people.
    Tell it to the warmongers, they know more about that without being ever there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    This congress member, a vet, apparently isn't interested in providing services to vets.

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    Wondering whether there are no other way how to serve? If not many ideas then perhaps to serve in McDonald...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebbu View Post
    Wow, ever heard of conscientious objectors?
    Typical septic reasoning: send teenager to futile war, check. Go kill innocents, check. Come home & feel sad, check. Make a movie & indoctrinate more moron teenagers to go to war & kill more innocents. Big fucking septic gun-toting 'murica freedom fries check.
    I'm not complaining about the place. I did get to watch Tora Tora Tora, the wackiest ship in the Army, McHale's Navy, The one where the German guy keeps yelling at Shultz his subordinate ( sory forgot the name), MASH, Gomer Pyle MC. Yea, they fed us the freedom fries alright but I loved every minute of it. Never served in the military though, my brother was on the USS Enterprise, Father lost a toe in Korea, uncle came back from Vietnam a scar all the way down the side of his face that made me scared when I saw him. Big man, was a Marine in the shit.

    I worked with a guy, now retired that was a tunnel rat, a few Chiefs and a Master Chief, all retired now. Good for them, double pensions and free health care for life. Bought a Browning A-Bolt stainless steel stalker 7 mm Magnum brand new from a guy I worked with that was highly-decorated for surviving some major battle in Vietnam that I forgot the details of.

    He bought his girlfriend some expensive fancy watch, she bought him the rifle then they broke up. I wanted the Browning A5 at the time but this thing is really accurate. It's my deer rifle of choice now. I don't even touch Chinese SKS anymore. Why would I, the Browning is spot-on over a hundred yards

    I wouldn't talk smack about any of them in fact I got pistol envey when It comes to their big fat pensions. Do twenty years and then get a damn good job after just to pad the back pockets while paying off the house up north and all the toys ect.

    go fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Do twenty years and then get a damn good job after just to pad the back pockets while paying off the house up north and all the toys ect.
    Yup that explains those long lines of soldier wannabes extending ‘round the block at the recruiters office.

    Forget to add that in addition to free healthcare you get, at no charge to you, all the free prosthetics, wheelchairs and crutches you need plus room ‘n board at a VA Hospital, facility or old soldiers home. Not to mention the free psychotropic drugs, straightjackets and rubber room provided for the shell shocked. Benefits beyond compare.

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    Paint a nice picture you do...Shit 4500 a month pension, snow mobiles Amphercats and all the clean fish you want to worm and bobber. Sure, I only met guys that walked away. I only hope that someday I'll be one.
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    You know I honestly believe some of you old fuckers got the nerve to stand up for what you believe in. But then again I'm caught between the Elephant and the Rino...Yea, the Ell iff I knoww.

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    Yup, enjoyin' that pension, nutin' to do but fish and count the money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    4500 a month pension
    In our dreams - well, perhaps the Generals



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    S Navy Master Chief Petty Officer Salaries


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    From wikipedia:

    Master chief petty officers are addressed as "Master Chief (last name)" in the colloquial and they constitute the top 1.25% of the enlisted members of the maritime forces.



    Top Grade - yup, they deserve the pay and pension


    A whole lotta dues you'll pay to reach MCPO

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    Yea, sad I see. Hell I'd have been there last week If I had landed wrong. I don't expect a "hope you get better soon" from any of you mothers. That's just the way I read this crowd. No need to ask the reasons why.

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    P.S. Just because I have a chef license doesn't mean I've burned anybody. See I'm cool like that.You guys just don't know me. I hang with the fishes, bitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlocker View Post
    Shit 4500 a month pension
    That $4500 figure is pretty close to what a retired CDR/0-5 would get for 20 years and a MCPO/E-9 with around 27/28 years pulls in.

    And on top of that they could be potentially getting another $800 - $3500 a month tax free from the VA depending whatever disability rating they get.

    Not bad money combined and more icing on the cake coming when they turn 62 and that social security check for another $1000 - $1500 a month comes. That figure can go up by several hundred a month by delaying SS. Something like an additional 8% per year is the figure I seem to recall.

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    Mist soldiers I know joined as they couldn't think of anything else to do or were on the run from something.

    To those who went to Iraq, I'll say nothing, as my gran taught me when I have nothing nice to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    Mist soldiers I know joined as they couldn't think of anything else to do or were on the run from something.
    How many soldiers would that be, roughly?

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