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    Drink drive law changes. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As of the 1st of September, 2019 a new set of laws regarding driving in Thailand has been proposed especially with regard to drink driving.

    1. A person with a driving licence covering 2 years may not have more than 0.02 alcohol reading. I was stopped at a check point yesterday and as I had drank only 2 small bottles of beer I assumed I had no problem. My reading was 0.031, well under the legal limit and then they checked my licence. As I had a 2 year licence I had to park the car and the head bloke explained as I was a novice driver I was over the limit and would have to go to the police station. I stood there in the sun for 2 hours and I called my lawyer and he suggested I just wait and see what happens. He also told me that I should get my licence back as the police could not retain it and I politely asked and my request was refused.

    Anyway after 2 hours the police van mostly full of Yaba freaks drove off and I was left standing there with the head policeman and he told me to drive to Banglamaung police station. My wife was with me so she drove.

    When I arrived I was told to sit on some cement garden furniture and wait for the head guy. He arrived and once again explained that 2 small beers was over the limit because I was a novice driver with only a 2 year licence. He finally agreed to retest me and my reading was 0.011 and he handed my licence back and apologised profusely for the inconvenience. No money changed hands.

    2. A policeman may ask for your driving licence but after viewing it he must hand it back to you immediately. He/ She has no legal right to retain it as of the 01/09/2019.

    You can download the new laws from the relevant government site but be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    has been proposed
    ok -

    and good luck getting your licence back after the copper has it

    what is the proposal for those with an IDP ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    and good luck getting your licence back after the copper has it
    I have been informed that if they refuse to return it, and the case went to court all charges could be dropped because they did not return the licence.

    And my normal maximum beer intake when driving is 3 small bottles of beer and I have been stopped regularly and they wave me on after my reading has been checked.

    Yesterday was an eye opener!

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    When my Missus took her bogus test 3 years ago the guy doing the theory test told her the bib have no right to hold your license.
    Try doing that in real life though and they will never give you your license back until you've been to the station and paid your fine.

    2 bottles of 5% Leo will put your Blood alcohol at 0.04.
    It takes half an hour to get into your bloodstream then 2 hours to get rid of every bottle thereafter, so you were lucky they kept you hanging around.
    I see there's a big sign up by the lake now saying 'don't drive drunk' by the flyover.

    Maybe get yourself a designated driver mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ok -

    and good luck getting your licence back after the copper has it

    what is the proposal for those with an IDP ?

    Regardless of such situations, the cops do/act as they wish.
    Don't expect any of them to follow the letter of the law.

    Not subliminally referred to as a mafia for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Maybe get yourself a designated driver mate.
    I have been pulled over dozens of times mate having drank 3 small bottles of Heineken and each time I have passed the test.

    In fact the BIB admitted if I have had a 5 year licence no problems but as I only had a 2 year licence I was still on probation.

    Yes a designated driver must be considered or drink at bars walking distance from home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    2 bottles of 5% Leo will put your Blood alcohol at 0.04.
    I think that varies on things like body weight, how long it took to drink those 2 bottles, if you ate during that time, and so on. But yeah, the law for BAC being .02 for 2 year license and .05 for 5 year licenses had already been in effect for a some time I thought?. Couldn't care less though, I never drive after drinking any amount of alcohol (any more).

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    ^ Same. I've done some daft things in the past when I was younger and 'invincible', but no longer.

    To my mind if you've had a drink and the police pull you, then they hold all the cards regardless of whether you're over the limit. How well are the breathalisers calibrated anyway?

    I've heard that the police can get immigration involved if you're over the limit, but don't know how true that is. Is it a criminal offence? If it is true and they discover you have a life, family, house etc in Thailand then a small bribe to get out of a drink driving offence will get a whole lot bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    I never drive after drinking any amount of alcohol (any more).
    That must be considered as being really wise these days.

    And I had no idea about the 0.02 law for 2 year licence.

    Anyway no damage done apart from sunburn and learning a lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    a small bribe to get out of a drink driving offence will get a whole lot bigger
    After an hour of standing in the sun i told my wife to speak with the head honcho and offer him something so I could go have another beer.

    He waved her away!

    Must have been that the press was there and videos and pictures were being taken.

    Fortunately I had a bucket on my head!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Maybe get yourself a designated driver mate
    I was a designated driver for LT once. Nevermind I was completely blotto after far more than a couple beers and couldn't even find my way from Smug Farang Bores bar to Soi Cowboy.

    Quite a night that was.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    After an hour of standing in the sun i told my wife to speak with the head honcho and offer him something so I could go have another beer.

    He waved her away!

    Must have been that the press was there and videos and pictures were being taken.
    There has to be a police general at road blocks nowadays, in Bangkok at least, so the days of bribing your way out are gone, I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I was a designated driver for LT once. Nevermind I was completely blotto after far more than a couple beers and couldn't even find my way from Smug Farang Bores bar to Soi Cowboy.

    Quite a night that was
    400 metres away

    I used that word blotto just to LT in a pm regarding last Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quite a night that was.
    Yes it was a great night Norts! I was the designated drummer that night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    400 metres away
    I had to mention to Norton when we got to Prakanong that he was going the wrong way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    2. A policeman may ask for your driving licence but after viewing it he must hand it back to you immediately. He/ She has no legal right to retain it as of the 01/09/2019.
    On the other forum there's a guy on there who claims that
    Police cannot confiscate driver’s licences when issuing tickets, starting September 20 https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30375505
    And


    Only a Police Lieutenant or higher can ask you for your ID, non-commissioned officers cannot ask you for your ID unless accompanied by a Police Lieutenant or higher.
    Anyone with a link to the new rules???
    Last edited by Pragmatic; 02-09-2019 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I have been pulled over dozens of times mate having drank 3 small bottles of Heineken and each time I have passed the test.
    It says a lot that this is your only yardstick for how much alcohol you should drink before driving.

    Frankly, you fit the profile perfectly for the selfish idiots who kill on the roads in this manner.

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    My wife just checked up at the licence office and you may show a picture of your licence on your telephone.

    No need to show your actual licence as far as that government office is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Frankly, you fit the profile perfectly for the selfish idiots who kill on the roads in this manner.
    33 years of driving here in Thailand and still not one illegal offence Simple.

    Is there a drink drive limit for driving camels in the shit-hole sandpit you work?

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    Enjoy your recollections with Norton of endangering lives while completely plastered.

    What a larf!


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    I just heard the BIB have set up another road block on the railway line and Soi Muslim (Nern Plub Wan) and as I have to drive that way I will test out the licence picture on my phone advice from the driver's licence department.

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    Loy Toy, I'm surprised you've only got a 2 year driving licence having lived in Thailand for so long. I'm on my second 5 year licence.
    Last edited by Neverna; 02-09-2019 at 11:36 AM. Reason: typo
    Nev has style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Loy Toy, I'm surprised you've only got a 2 year driving licence having lived in Tailand for so long.
    I formerly drove on an international drivers permit in line with my Australian licence and never once had a problem.

    It was only last December I decided to get a Thai licence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Anyone with a link to the new rules???
    There was an "edict" a few months back to stop coppers setting up their end of the month salary top up road blocks saying a senior officer had to be present.

    It's Thailand, do you think this lasted longer than a month?

    And are you going to be the ones to call a bunch of BiB chimps robbing bastards?

    If so, please ask someone to video proceedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    It was only last December I decided to get a Thai licence.
    Was it not after posters on here told you that you can only drive here on an 'International Permit' for 3 months? There after a Thai drivers licence must be obtained for insurance purposes. Not having a go at you LT but just a wake up call to others who think driving here on a IP is allowed indefinitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I formerly drove on an international drivers permit in line with my Australian licence and never once had a problem.

    It was only last December I decided to get a Thai licence.
    More accurately...you finally realised that you were mistaken in your ridiculous belief, as you posted here, that you were OK indefinitely with an Aussie licence and IDP despite not being in Thailand on a tourist visa.

    I posted advising you of this years ago.

    Good to see the penny finally dropped.

    No need to thank me.

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