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    Worcester UK

    Particularly the Bushwhackers Arms, Church House, The Trinity.

    General manager, Harry Meads, allegedly,

    Owner, DARREN PINCHES. Allegedly. Recently release for cocaine dealing and rape.

    I'm trying to help out a young fella who got into a bit of an altercation a few weeks back.

    He turned up at the club with a few friends who were from Malvern College.

    His mates all breezed in but he was stopped.
    The doorman said he couldn't come in wearing trainers
    A Malvern mate came out to support the lad.
    The lad turned away and was immediately thrust to the ground, a spear tackle is the term I believe, crashing to the floor and suffering a severe concussion.

    Cops arrived on the scene, the lad was unconscious for over 40 minutes, no medical called. He was put into the cells.

    Points to note;

    Worcester, Malvern, is a well respected white middle upper class area. All good.
    The regular Malvern lads were well known with the door staff as rugby players for the school.

    Malvern School is world famous as is "Downers school Wiltshire".

    Kids from schools and around the area often frequent the above mentioned "Bushwackers" Pub/Club.

    Apparently if you're ID isn't good enough a ten pound note will suffice.

    On with the story;

    Young lad is banged up, strip searched, has wrists crushed in the cell door and left naked on the cell floor.
    He has no recollection of this and medical tests suggest at least 40 minutes of amnesia and concussion.
    A video/CCTV was taken of the event out side the club but has since disappeared. Though the police admitted seeing in in the station that evening.

    The lads mother, a deputy head teacher is going spare, The father, a school principal is at a loss.


    Now to the point,

    The lad is 17 years old, 6 foot 5 and black.
    No previous history, recently got accepted for veterinary school, and has no history of violence in any way. Played county badminton, school rugby and soccer.

    Question;

    What would you do to try and help?

    Cheers

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    I have no idea, your post tells roughly what has happened but not his current condition or what kind of help he needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    The doorman said he couldn't come in wearing trainers

    The lad is 17 years old

    What would you do to try and help?
    Buy him some proper shoes and tell him to wait until he's 18 and try again, making sure he takes some ID with him and wears the shoes and not trainers.

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    I'd recommend that you teach him to man the fuck up, and tell his parents to STFU.

    If he's 6'5" and a rugby player, a baseball bat can be used to teach the bouncer the merits of not being a c u n t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I'd recommend that you teach him to man the fuck up, and tell his parents to STFU.

    If he's 6'5" and a rugby player, a baseball bat can be used to teach the bouncer the merits of not being a c u n t.

    What a civilized suggestion. Well done.

    I'm sure you're right and for him to react by taking a basketball bat to a bouncer would really resolve the issue.
    As far as telling his parents, whom I've known for 30 years to tell the lad to "man the the fuck up" you put it to doubt very much as if you've never "manned the fuck up in your life".
    His father is an ex Olympian martial artist and his Mum was an Olympic swimmer.
    I'd wager they've forgotten more about "manning it up" than you've come on your key board.
    No disrespect intended of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Buy him some proper shoes and tell him to wait until he's 18 and try again, making sure he takes some ID with him and wears the shoes and not trainers.
    A very sensible point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    What a civilized suggestion. Well done.

    I'm sure you're right and for him to react by taking a basketball bat to a bouncer would really resolve the issue.
    As far as telling his parents, whom I've known for 30 years to tell the lad to "man the the fuck up" you put it to doubt very much as if you've never "manned the fuck up in your life".
    His father is an ex Olympian martial artist and his Mum was an Olympic swimmer.
    I'd wager they've forgotten more about "manning it up" than you've come on your key board.
    No disrespect intended of course.
    Fucking snowflakes. Snowflakes everywhere.

    Sounds like they all need a safe space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Fucking snowflakes. Snowflakes everywhere.

    Sounds like they all need a safe space.

    Wow, it must be great to be rock hard crystal like you. Well done. Hope you don't melt too soon.

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    What exactly is it you are after crackers?

    Advice on how to provide counselling?

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    Is it a local lawyer yer after?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    the lad was unconscious for over 40 minutes, no medical called
    Hard to swallow that and the missing vid.

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    Was he charged with anything? Vagrancy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What exactly is it you are after crackers?

    Advice on how to provide counselling?
    Thoughts, views, opinions. There are a fair few Brits on TD and I'm interested in their views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Was he charged with anything? Vagrancy?
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    The lad is 17 years old, 6 foot 5 and black.
    Wait a couple of months, and then go see if the same bouncer is working at the aptly-named "Bushwhackers Arms".
    -And fuck him up.

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    Drunk and disorderly rugby player, there's a surprise.

    Tell him to pay the 90 quid and learn his lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    Wait a couple of months, and then go see if the same bouncer is working at the aptly-named "Bushwhackers Arms".
    -And fuck him up.
    No, apparently sticking up for yourself is off the table in this new snowflake world we live in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    What would you do to try and help?
    Nothing at all.

    You're just hearing this kids side of events. I highly doubt he was set upon for no reason.

    Sounds like a crock of bullshit he's fed his parents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Nothing at all.

    You're just hearing this kids side of events. I highly doubt he was set upon for no reason.

    Sounds like a crock of bullshit he's fed his parents.
    Not exactly, I've also got all the medical statements, police reports, and witness statements but not the mysterious CCTV DVD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Not exactly, I've also got all the medical statements, police reports, and witness statements but not the mysterious CCTV DVD.
    Why?

    Are you the family lawyer?

    Why would they give you this confidential documentation?

    What have you promised them?

    Are you a Fluke multinic?

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    Tell the family to speak to a decent lawyer or just pay the fine and move on (the lawyer will probably advise this). Nobody really knows what happened but I'm guessing at that time in the morning he was probably pissed and got a bit mouthy with the bouncer who most likely over reacted.
    According to here https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/penalty-notice/ he won't even have a criminal record unless he tries to become a local gangster and take revenge like others advise.
    Tell him to get some decent mates.

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    The lad is 17 years old
    Quote Originally Posted by Shank View Post
    born in 1997
    Good spot, Plies.

    So, he's 17 going on 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Good spot, Plies.

    So, he's 17 going on 22.
    So it's probably all bollocks then.

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    Nope, he was using someone elses ID card as most the club goers do. The alternative is to pay the doorman 10 quid.
    The club has quite a reputation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parryhandy View Post
    Tell the family to speak to a decent lawyer or just pay the fine and move on (the lawyer will probably advise this). Nobody really knows what happened but I'm guessing at that time in the morning he was probably pissed and got a bit mouthy with the bouncer who most likely over reacted.
    According to here https://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/penalty-notice/ he won't even have a criminal record unless he tries to become a local gangster and take revenge like others advise.
    Tell him to get some decent mates.

    Good advice mate. Thank you. The major point of contention is as to why the police originally agreed to let the family see the video but then, the next morning, refused to allow to to be seen.

    Should the MRI and other scans show cerebral damage explanation will be required as to the action on the bouncer.
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