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    War in Syria - Obama avoided it, but Trump, May and Macron were just too stupid...

    Clear detailing and facts.

    Quite interesting background information from somebody in the know who gives specific, clear and checkable facts, details and dates.





    ...but then in April 2018: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_m..._against_Syria

    Yet another example of how awful May is. &, what to say about Macron and Trump...
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    America has been made great again Betts Darlink.

    Get over it and ride the Trump train. On that train is my mate The General who has done great things for Thailand and will continue to do so.

    Unfortunatly Betts your years of ranting against these 2 did'nt pan out eh.

    Fuker that eh Betts.

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    I know, Terrence, it's hilarious how so many innocent people get bombed to death, just hilarious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I know, Terrence, it's hilarious how so many innocent people get bombed to death, just hilarious...
    Boo, don't knock El Tel, you're the one that posted this in the lounge you silly fucker.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    Yet another example of how awful May is. &, what to say about Macron and Trump...
    Yes, but much more importantly yet another example of how dangerous Israel is to US soldiers' lives and the US economy that takes a hit with every war (except for the military industrial complex).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Yes, but much more importantly yet another example of how dangerous Israel is to US soldiers' lives and the US economy that takes a hit with every war (except for the military industrial complex).
    I understand your point, but these are Americans making decisions using American troops, American bombs, etc - when are the US folks gonna hold their American lunatics to account (the guy in the video points out very clearly: who, what, where and when)? Israel wouldn't be able to get away with their endless warmongering if it wasn't for US/British support. The same with Saudi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I understand your point, but these are Americans making decisions using American troops, American bombs, etc - when are the US folks gonna hold their American lunatics to account (the guy in the video points out very clearly: who, what, where and when)? Israel wouldn't be able to get away with their endless warmongering if it wasn't for US/British support. The same with Saudi.
    Listen to yourself. Bottom line it's Israel.
    They lobby and coerce and use "antisemitism" as a catchcry to lure support, not to mention influencing finance circles.
    The US/British support is because of the Israeli lobbying and influence.
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    Israel invests a lot of money to influence policies in other countries, especially the US and UK, that is true. As Saudi Arabia does. As America does, as Russia does, as...

    But, the UK/US should not be influenced by Israeli/Saudi money; they should be looking after the interests of their own citizens. Yes, Israel/Saudi can (and do) offer bribes, etc, but the UK/US politicians/administrators are the ones accepting the 'bribes' and bombing Syria using UK/US planes and UK/US bombs. As seen in the video, Obama and some members of his administration did not play the game and bomb Syria, so it is possible to act in the interests of your own nation - Isreal/Saudi does not control US foreign policy (although they certainly try to influence it through a wide range of methods).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    War in Syria - Obama avoided it
    Really? So what was all this then? Peace bombs? Yeah yeah, I know...he was just targeting ISIS.



    The figures are likely to be an underestimate, since the only reliable data only comes from a handful of countries, and multiple bombs can be classed as a single “strike” under the Pentagon's definition.

    But of the confirmed bombings, the vast majority (24,287) took place in Iraq and Syria, according to analysis of official data by Micah Zenko, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

    His research concluded that the US dropped 79 per cent of all 30,743 coalition bombs in 2016.
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    Map shows where President Barack Obama dropped his 20,000 bombs

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7534851.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I understand your point, but these are Americans making decisions using American troops, American bombs, etc - when are the US folks gonna hold their American lunatics to account
    And that does not bother the millions of population to trustfully vote for them again and excitedly jubilate at their warmonger speeches...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    when are the US folks gonna hold their American lunatics to account
    I've been told it's "anti-semitic" to hold the majority of those lunatics to account. Jus sayin...

    5 out of the 7 pictured self identify as Jews, and from my point of view, prioritize Israel's interests ahead of US interests. Not sure of the man's heritage on the bottom right.


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    I instinctivly distrust a man with only a mustache

    and any other fcuk sporting sculptured facial har

    basic trimmed beard , full beard or clean shaven is ok - but the rest I believe indicates they are parasites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    when are the US folks gonna hold their American lunatics to account
    Many of us would like to but currently America is a plutocracy controlled by oligarchs who are supporters of Israel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    But, the UK/US should not be influenced by Israeli/Saudi money
    No shit but that cat got out of the bag decades ago.

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    Syria: Speech by HR/VP Josep Borrell in the EP on the current security situation in Syria
    Strasbourg, 12/02/2020

    Mr President, Honourable Members,

    The war in Syria is now in its ninth year. The most severe humanitarian catastrophe and security crisis is unfolding right now in the northwest of the country. In other parts of Syria we continue to see instability and dramatic human suffering.

    Last Thursday we heard the United Nations Special Envoy [Geir] Pedersen and the Head of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs [OCHA] Mark Lowcock briefing the UN Security Council on the situation in Idlib. They described how regime forces, aided by Russia and Iran, are launching heavy military offensives with no regard for the civilian population or civilian infrastructure. “We appear to have lost sight of the principle of proportionality”, United Nations Special Envoy [Pedersen] said.

    The intensification of military operations in Idlib has resulted in the indiscriminate killings of hundreds of civilians. Attacks continue on civilian targets in densely populated areas, medical facilities and settlements for internally displaced people. These are blatant and serious violations of international humanitarian law. There has to be accountability for those responsible.

    Since military operations began in Idlib in February 2019, one year ago, more than 1 million people have been displaced towards Turkey. We are talking about one million displaced people in one year. Every day more Syrians are fleeing the fighting and another wave of refugees is quite possibly in the making.

    We also see clashes between the Syrian regime and Turkish forces, plus the risk of Turkish and Russian militaries confronting each other. These tensions could in turn trigger a wider regional conflict. The ceasefire agreed between Ankara and Moscow must be implemented.

    This is the situation. Now, let me say this. After almost a decade of violence, the suffering of the Syrian people at the hands of the regime and its backers must cease. Too many people have died, and those that are alive face a bleak future.

    The EU has major stakes in Syria and in the surrounding region. We cannot afford more regional instability and another migrant crisis. We must avoid a resurgence of Da’esh and other terrorist organisations at Europe’s doorstep. The EU has a duty to preserve the rules based international order including the legitimacy of the United Nations Security Council. Yes, I know, we say that once again and we have to continue saying that.

    Recent military gains by the Syrian regime are not translating into stability, on the contrary. The Syrian regime will not bring peace and stability to Syria if it continues to pursue a military logic and the repression of its people. The economic situation is deteriorating rapidly, exacerbated by the banking crisis in Lebanon. The regime must change its behaviour.

    [Honourable] Members of the European Parliament, we have stated from the very beginning that only a comprehensive and inclusive political solution in line with United Nations Security Council Resolution 2254 will allow sustainable peace and stability in Syria and the region.

    The European Union will continue to support the efforts of the United Nations Special Envoy Pedersen in relaunching the Constitutional Committee in Geneva. We also need to focus on other parts of this resolution [UNSCR 2254] such as a nationwide ceasefire, the release of detainees and getting progress on the file of missing persons.

    Let’s recall that the European Union is and remains the largest humanitarian donor in relation to crisis in Syria and to its people, both inside [Syria] and to Syrian refugees and host communities in neighbouring countries. We are supporting the resilience of ordinary civilians and civil society to maintain the social fabric of Syrian society.

    We are convinced that our support is a fundamental investment – it is not an expenditure it is an investment – in the future of Syria and the region which is part of our future. And as a partner in the Global Coalition to defeat Da’esh, the EU is conducting stabilisation projects in the north east of Syria.

    We are always prepared to do more on all these lines of action, within the limits of our common redlines. These are: no normalisation with the regime; no risking of our funding being diverted to the regime or to terrorists, and no reconstruction before a political process is firmly under way.

    Honourable members, we will continue to apply European Union sanctions targeting individuals and entities associated with the regime and responsible for its repressive and inhuman policies, and not the Syrian people.

    As I said before: the conflict in Syria is a geopolitical struggle. The European Union has a responsibility to lead, for the sake of the Syrian people and to protect our own interests. While difficult, we must redouble our efforts to identify common interests with other international stakeholders, Russia, U.S., Turkey and others.

    Maybe I will have the occasion to update you on our discussions in Washington about this issue.

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    Syria: Speech by HR/VP Josep Borrell in the EP on the current security situation in Syria - European External Action Service

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    Where does that story mention Obama or Trump? Seems to be much more Europe focused. Did you make up your title or does it have anything to do with the article you posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Where does that story mention Obama or Trump? See to much more Europe focused. Did you make up your title or does it have anything to do with the article you posted?
    Don't moan, he's a little bit lost since Mama HoHo left him on his own.

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    Has there ever been a world power that loses as many wars as the merkins? Basically, war (which in reality involves blowing off the arms and legs of unarmed civilians in a foreign place, or burning them, or other nasty things) has become a business thing, to make already rich oligarchs even richer. Funded by the ever compliant taxpayers, who bring dumb to an entirely new level. If this is what you call progress, or pax americana you can stick it where the sun don't shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Has there ever been a world power that loses as many wars as the merkins?
    Never really lost a war. Not even Vietnam. Always had tactical dominance on every level. You can push your nonsense though. That said I do not support the for profit US war machine at all. I support the people that are in uniform though that is a different thing.

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    You sound like Dick cheney. But he makes money from it- do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    But he makes money from it- do you?
    Ummm. What part of this do you not understand....



    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    That said I do not support the for profit US war machine at all. I support the people that are in uniform though that is a different thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Where does that story mention Obama or Trump? Seems to be much more Europe focused. Did you make up your title or does it have anything to do with the article you posted?
    It's Syria war, stooopid....
    Pity that the decorated peacemaker Obama did not avoid it...

    And Trump first wanted to avoid it, however, within 2 weeks had changed his mind and bombed it, all that to help Syrian people to get rid of their dictator...

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    Strange how the Syrian President (an ex- London optometrist, with an ex-London MS investment banker wife) changed from being someone who Vogue magazine wrote a puff piece about, to Pol Pot and uncle Addy rolled into one plus a goodly dose of Osama bin Liner, in the space of a few weeks. Did he read Mein Kampf?

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    ^That's a strange phenomenon happening always with some rulers who fall out with some of their former friends, as we had experienced it with Noriega, Saddam, Gaddafi, you name it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Strange how the Syrian President (an ex- London optometrist, with an ex-London MS investment banker wife) changed from being someone who Vogue magazine wrote a puff piece about, to Pol Pot and uncle Addy rolled into one plus a goodly dose of Osama bin Liner, in the space of a few weeks. Did he read Mein Kampf?
    Nothing strange about it, the elder son died in a car crash and he was bought back to be groomed as the next dictator.

    And groomed he was.

    Just like one of Saddam's sons would have taken over his handiwork if the seppos hadn't ousted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And groomed he was.

    Just like one of Saddam's sons would have taken over his handiwork if the seppos hadn't ousted him.
    So, that's why the population is now overly happy that they did not need to suffer under the "handiwork" of the son, at last a peaceful life in the country...

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