ANZAC Day tomorrow

[David48atTD]

Anyone doing anything/going anywhere?

Before Kids, my Partner and I attended a Dawn Service.

I was impressed that she knew what it was (though a bit light on for details) and that she was
happy to get up @ 4am and walk a few kilometres to watch the March and the service afterwards.

My Dad was regular Army, served in WWII when the Kids get old enough, I'll teach them and once
they can handle it, we'll go to a Dawn Service.

[bowie]

ANZAC - a fine memorial celebration. Been to several.

This year I'm in the US for a couple more days so a miss for me, the past two years I made if, my VFW Post, as do most, attend.

The Death Railway - attend the ceremony, visit the museums, visit the cemeteries.

and, as far the the atrocities that occurred - well, two bombs weren't enough.

[Loy Toy]

Lest we forget.

[prawnograph]

Meanwhile in NZ, fear of reprisals for the Christchurch mosque shooting has lead to this:

58 Anzac Day services cancelled in Auckland, but services across rest of country will go ahead



Two-thirds of Auckland's Anzac Day services have been canned in the wake of the Christchurch mosque shootings.

There would be just 26 services across the region, down from 84 in 2018, Auckland Council said on Tuesday evening.

Decisions to cancel or consolidate services had been made following discussions with the police and the Returned Services Association.

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186 Anzac Day services going ahead despite cancellations in Auckland



While almost two-thirds of Anzac Day commemorative events have been cancelled in Auckland, there will be 186 services going ahead across the rest of the country.

The Returned and Services Association's Shane Wratt said safety and security had been discussed with police nationwide in the wake of the Christchurch mosque shootings.

Police Superintendent Kathryn Malthus said there was "no information to suggest a specific risk to public safety at this time".

However, police had recommended to organisers that a number of planned events across Auckland be consolidated in the interests of public safety, she said.

[prawnograph]

ANZAC could perhaps remain that, Australia and NZ?

I'd agree with Mr Brown as below.

NZ: Anzac backlash: Veterans angry at Muslim prayer plan

A decision to invite a Muslim cleric to say a prayer at an Anzac Day service has sparked an anguished backlash from veterans.

The Returned and Services Association (RSA) branch at Titahi Bay near Wellington has moved the Muslim prayer from its 6am dawn service to its 10am civic ceremony after some veterans said the dawn service should remember only NZ and Australian soldiers who have died in wars.

The backlash has exposed sensitive emotions around a sacred day in the New Zealand calendar as the nation struggles to become more "inclusive" after 50 Muslims were shot dead in the Christchurch mosque massacre.

Vietnam veteran Dave Brown, a former manager of the nearby Porirua RSA, emailed the Titahi Bay branch protesting against its initial decision to invite Newlands Mosque imam Mohamed Zewada to say a prayer at its dawn service on Titahi Bay Beach.

"What took place in Christchurch was shocking and we all agree that it was completely out of order in every way," Brown said.

"I believe that the appropriate measures have been taken to recognise that and to show the Muslim community that they are part of us and we are part of them.

"Anzac Day came about to recognise all those who went overseas and served their country and returned, and those who never returned. That is the significance and the only justification for Anzac Day, and I feel it should stay that way."

[baldrick]

should remember only NZ and Australian soldiers who have died in wars.

no - cnuts should stope being precious - if a japanese soldier turned up at a memorial service I would afford him the same courtesy

the turks lost a lot of sons at gallopoli as well - along with women and children

and, as far the the atrocities that occurred

because of dehumanisation - a path which we are travelling along again

[David48atTD]

Turks to be banned from Gallipoli Anzac service



Turkish nationals have been banned from attending tomorrow’s Anzac Day dawn service on the Gallipoli peninsula amid heightened security fears.

The Turkish government has imposed a strict ban on locals being anywhere on the peninsula for the service, including bus drivers and tour guides, only a month after President Recep Tayyip [at]Erdogan spoke about sending Australians home in body bags, and the Turkish media repeatedly broadcast footage of the Christchurch massacre during political campaigning.

Only registered foreigners, comprising about 700 Australians and 500 New Zealanders, will be given access to the peninsula after the Turkish military imposed the lockdown after a huge security sweep.
However, Turkish dignitaries who are part of the service will be allowed to attend.

One official, who did not want to be named, said: “Everyone who is on site is registered, security-cleared, and we know about them.
“Nothing is left to chance and keeping every Turkish person out eliminates a lot of risk.
From the top, it is very important that nothing happens.’’

The Australian

[prawnograph]

I don't know for Australia, but NZ has distinct, separate events each Anzac Day

The Dawn Service

A typical commemoration begins with a march by returned service personnel before dawn to the local war memorial. Military personnel and returned servicemen and women form up about the memorial, joined by other members of the community. Pride of place goes to war veterans.
A short service follows with a prayer, hymns (including Kipling's 'Recessional' or 'Lest we forget') and a dedication that concludes with the fourth verse of Laurence Binyon's For the Fallen:

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

The last post is then played, and this is followed by a minute's silence and the reveille. A brief address follows, after which the hymn 'Recessional' is sung. The service concludes with a prayer and the singing of the national anthem.


Patea, South Taranaki. Unveiled Anzac Day 1922; total of 64 men from the district who had made the supreme sacrifice: from Patea, from Whenuakura and Opaku, from Manutahi, and from Kakaramea, Alton and Hurleyville

The Anzac parade
Another ceremony takes place later on the morning of 25 April.
Returned service personnel wear their medals and march behind banners and standards. The veterans are joined by other community groups, including members of the armed forces, the Red Cross, cadets, and veterans of other countries' forces.
The march proceeds to the local war memorial. Another service takes place there, and various organisations and members of the public lay wreaths.

For Wellington:
6am: Dawn Service, Pukeahu National War Memorial Park
9am: Wellington Citizens Wreath-Laying Service at Cenotaph Precinct
11am: National Commemoration Service, Pukeahu National War Memorial Park
2.30pm: Ataturk Memorial Service at Ataturk Memorial, Tarakena Bay, Strathmore

[Boon Mee]

Happy Anzac Day.

Winston Churchill has a lot to answer for...

[PAG]

[David48atTD]

^ Thanks PAG ... you were one of the Members I was thinking of as I remember a thread by you a year or two back on the Service in your area.

[Boon Mee]

Some people need to read their history.

Winston Churchill bears almost total responsibility for the disaster at Gallipoli

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...-only-his.html

Churchill's Folly. Ring a bell, does it?

[NamPikToot]

Some people need to read their history.

Winston Churchill bears almost total responsibility for the disaster at Gallipoli

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...-only-his.html

Churchill's Folly. Ring a bell, does it?

BM why not fuk off to another thread. Its about remembering the sacrifice, or are you going to start on about Vietnam in the same vein. Apologies on his behalf to the ANZ cohort.

[Boon Mee]

BM why not fuk off to another thread. Its about remembering the sacrifice, or are you going to start on about Vietnam in the same vein. Apologies on his behalf to the ANZ cohort.

Fair enough remembering the sacrifice.
Also fair is to remember why Gallipoli came about as it did.

[bsnub]

^

You really are a sack of shit aren't you. Pathetic fuck.

[Little Chuchok]

^

You really are a sack of shit aren't you. Pathetic fuck.

How about you get out of this thread, tough guy.

It's not about you.

Now, where were we...

I'll be going to the Dawn Parade tomorrow.

[David48atTD]

Members of Australia and New Zealand armed forces wait to attend a Gallipoli service this week


Turkish authorities say they have arrested a suspected Islamic State member they believe was planning to attack tomorrow's Anzac commemorations at Gallipoli attended by hundreds of Australians and New Zealanders.

Key points:

• Turkish media reported the Syrian suspect simply as "A H"
• Hundreds of Australians are expected to attend ANAZC services at Gallipoli
• The Turkish president last month made comments about Australians returning "in caskets"

The suspect, a 26-year-old Syrian national, was detained in Tekirdag, a northwestern province close to the Gallipoli peninsula, a local police spokesman told Reuters.

Turkish security sources have told the ABC that the planned attack on Gallipoli was in retaliation for the Christchurch mosque attacks.

The Gallipoli site has been evacuated and is being searched for bombs and other threats.
It comes after Turkey banned its own citizens from attending the Anzac Day dawn service due to security concerns.

Here

[Cujo]

I agree having a Muslim prayer reading is just ridiculous.

[baldrick]

Members of Australia and New Zealand armed forces wait to attend a Gallipoli service this week

why the fcuk has that raffie got his hands in his pockets ? kick his arse

and I see a Turkish soldier in the background

[bowie]

Hellfire Pass

[prawnograph]

NZ: National Museum Te Papa extends Gallipoli exibit for three years
24 Apr, 2019 6:45pm

Te Papa has extended its Gallipoli exhibit for another three years.

Originally scheduled to close this year, the most-visited exhibition in New Zealand history will remain at the museum until at least Anzac Day 2022.

Gallipoli: The scale of our war was created by Te Papa with the help of Weta Workshops.

It's had about 2.5 million visitors since it opened in April 2015.

The exhibition features giant life-like sculptures detailing the horrors of World War I.

At the end of the exhibition, visitors have the opportunity to leave a poppy with a message on it. Te Papa estimates over a million poppies have been left by visitors to date.

Turkish Ambassador to New Zealand Ahmet Ergin said the exhibition had provided an opportunity to recognise the close ties that had grown between the countries since the tragedy of Gallipoli.

"As the proud hosts of Anzac Day services every year we are delighted to hear that this masterfully curated exhibition has been extended for more people to reflect upon our shared sacrifice and most treasured relationship."

Weta Workshop creative director Sir Richard Taylor was one of the driving forces behind the exhibition.

"We wanted to go beyond the sheer scale of the numbers and statistics, and tell very personal stories, to really connect visitors to the human experience."

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[AntRobertson]

[nora tittoff]

why the fcuk has that raffie got his hands in his pockets ? kick his arse

and I see a Turkish soldier in the background

Looks like he has his hands on the wall behind him.

[PAG]

Anzac service at Phuket Yacht Club this morning:

[harrybarracuda]

I agree having a Muslim prayer reading is just ridiculous.

Oh man up, snowflake. Muslims died fighting for the allies.