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    Global Warming - the Final Word

    Once, just once, wouldn't it be a joy to pick up a newspaper or turn on the television to find a complete absence of anything to do with global warming? The problem is, if there's newsprint or airtime available, the global warming brigade think it is their divine duty to fill it, even at the expense of boring us all to distraction. Not a day goes by without some new crackpot scheme being hatched. These people wake up each morning determined to find fresh ways of intruding into our lives.

    The 'climate change' hysteria has proved a godsend for prodnoses. I doubt there is a single country on earth where entire groups haven't completely taken leave of its senses over alleged global warming. It has been seized upon as an exciting new weapon with which to inflict more taxes, fines and regulations.

    When it comes to banging the climate-change gong, some of these people areobsessed to the point of mental illness. Britain's latest plan is to put £2,000 on the price of a family car and ban plasma TVs.

    Brilliant.

    Why pick on plasmas? Are we supposed to go back to cumbersome cathode ray sets? It's not so long ago we were told they were destroying the Earth's crust in landfill sites. Are we supposed to stop watching television altogether?

    What about all those people who make a living manufacturing, selling and servicing televisions? What are they to do - go and work in a windmill?

    Yet here they are making common cause with 'zero growth' eco-loonies who knit their own toilet paper.

    The answer to any problem lies within it's market.

    I have faith in the market. We are delivering cleaner petrol and cars which pollute less & motor manufacturers such as BMW are taking the lead in recycling old vehicles. It's the market which is unveiling a whole new generation of fuelefficient, low-emission airliners.

    By the time the oil runs out, science will have come up with a viable alternative.

    These loons rail against the ludicrous amount of packaging which suffocates everything we buy these days. Given the choice, super-markets would gladly flog you potatoes straight from the ground or loose talcum powder, come to that, but the health & safety nazis won't let them, so stop going on about it. They have even set their sights on scrapping the standby button on computers and TVs.

    Frankly it's all none of their business. How we choose to live is entirely a matter for us.

    If they were really determined to tackle a looming energy crisis, they'd sanction the building of new nuclear power stations, which have virtually unlimited, renewable capacity and won't harm the environment.

    Once again, the market will see to that. Babies with three heads are bad for business, so safety would be paramount.

    People are running scared of the weird beards. B&Q are selling £50 windmills that you can put on your house so you can proclaim your "green" consciences. Even though they wouldn't power a hairdryer.

    There is a 'save the plebs' attitude, which targets family cars, big screen televisions and short-haul holidays.

    And don't get me started on the recycling racket.

    We pay to drive on roads we have already paid for several times over.

    This is a class war dressed up as concern for the planet.

    Needless to say, I would recieve the the thumbs-down from Friends of the Earth, who say "Tackling climate change is the biggest challenge we face." No, it isn't. That would be Islamist imperialism and global terrorism.

    People are aware of their responsibilities to the planet, and most try to conserve energy and recycle as much as possible. But they resent lectures about individual behaviour from interfering hippies. An extra two grand on a Mondeo may not matter to a multi-millionaire, but it's a huge chunk of change from the average family budget.

    Already 'green' taxes raises the thick end of £30 billion a year - virtually none of which gets spent improving the environment.

    Even the BBC has been forced to concede that it's not its job to save the planet.

    It is not your job, either & the sooner you realise that, the better.

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    I love how people dismiss global warming as the preserve of 'left-wing loons' and some sort of grand conspiracy. Objective evidence be damned!

    Best they hope they're right, because if they're not...

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    ^^

    So wow , you're sick of hearing about climate change.

    So you thought you post a whacking great paragraph about it.

    That makes sense don't it ?

    PS Can you not even have a rant about climate change without tucking in a line about islamic radicals.

    At least we know what your single issue is.

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    There's no getting away from it even without media exposure, Britain has just had it's worse summer ever because of changes in the jet stream, if global warming meant scorching summers I couldn't give a flying fuck, but I came back from summer in Thailand and it has pissed down ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robski View Post
    There's no getting away from it even without media exposure, Britain has just had it's worse summer ever because of changes in the jet stream, if global warming meant scorching summers I couldn't give a flying fuck, but I came back from summer in Thailand and it has pissed down ever since.
    Got into the UK yesterday, the weather is great, clear blue skies and clean air. Great golfing weather. I'm told that this is the first day of summer.

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    Nathair Ceann, I'm trying to get my post count up, that's all.

    Grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius View Post
    Nathair Ceann, I'm trying to get my post count up, that's all.
    Well you'd do better to keep them a bit shorter and go for quantity.

    Check out Britmaveric's offerings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius View Post
    Grow up.
    No , shan't (throws hissy fit , makes angry face and stamps foot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NathairCeann View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius View Post
    Nathair Ceann, I'm trying to get my post count up, that's all.
    Well you'd do better to keep them a bit shorter and go for quantity.

    Check out Britmaveric's offerings.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius View Post
    Grow up.
    No , shan't (throws hissy fit , makes angry face and stamps foot).
    Are you for real? First, you advise me that my threads are too long for your liking, then you suggest that I should look to somebody else for inspiration in what I choose to write?

    Hate to state the obvious but I don't post things for your benefit, however much you should like things to be around here.

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    ^ Just trying to be helpful

    Touchy little bugger aren't you ?

    Have you met Lily ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius
    An extra two grand on a Mondeo may not matter to a multi-millionaire, but it's a huge chunk of change from the average family budget.
    And it will do more harm to the environment because people will hang on to their older, less efficient, higher polluting car.

    It's good to see the Looney Left don't let us down.

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    Yeh your right the last couple of days have been ok, not bad after three pissing months.

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    My bad.

    You did say it, though. Makes us evens stevens.

    I wasn't in the mood for an argument about Islam, which is what it would have decended into & there's no end to all that shit. You can be cut & pasting all kinds of nonsense for weeks if you start arguing about all that & I've been there too many times to go there again.

    Another time.

    The emphasis was on the global warming thing, which has also been done to death, I know, but it's a totally better subject to debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zaius View Post
    My bad.

    You did say it, though. Makes us evens stevens.

    I wasn't in the mood for an argument about Islam, .
    What's your problem with islam, Kuffar? Angling for another fatwa, are you? Bin Laden said global warming was caused by Americans not being Muslims and that's good enough for me! All praise to Gore, the Lion and Sword of Climatology.

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    Global warming is a fact. Prove otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky View Post
    Global warming is a fact. Prove otherwise.
    You guys always start with the same argument - a question that cannot be answered. Right away, nobody wins. Hootad, it is not the position of the person being told a fact to be the one who has to prove it. You're an intelligent man & you know this. It is down to you to provide proof of what you say.

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    Global warmings all a load of balls, we haven't even started on the ice age yet that we were promised 20 or 30 years ago, me, I am looking forward to skiing holidays in Chiang Mai

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    it is not the position of the person being told a fact to be the one who has to prove it. You're an intelligent man & you know this. It is down to you to provide proof of what you say.
    The Artic ice sheet is retreating, that's a pretty good indicator of global warming, man made or interglacial.
    Do you want proof or are you going to take my word for it?

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    Well it's a fact that every previous epoch of warming has been precisely synchronised with a commensurate rise in C02. Current C02 levels are unprecedented and off the chart, and the world is indeed heating up, all over the place. I think that's a reasonable correlation.

    I think that current measures concocted to deal with it are feeble and ultimately futile. For instance, despite my governments mouthings and pronouncements about global warming, C02 levels in Canada have increased since Kyoto! Add India and China to the mix and a future of droughts and floods seems inevitable, and not unprecedented.

    For instance they've studied the North American Prairies and during previous warming spells droughts of 20-30 years were common. Studies of sediment as far north as New York and Nova Scotia show clear evidence of storm surges from hurricanes far larger than Katrina.

    We ain't seen nothin' yet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootad Binky View Post
    a future of droughts and floods seems inevitable, and not unprecedented
    That sound like a Bible. Where does a few metres of water equal catastophic flooding in this day & age? The Dutch have had flood defences since way back.

    I heard that most of Bangladesh will be underwater by the year 2100. It won't, as by then they will be in the top ten richest places on the planet & can afford to sort it out. Things like this are always left out of peoples' points.

    It's all scaremongering & you have all fell for it. A climate of fear has been created & this is to make you sympathetic to their spiel. They did the same thing when they wanted to invade Iraq. Remember all the photo's of nukes they were waving about? Pulling out graphs based on myths & speculation as evidence doesn't cut it. We all thought we were going in for WMDs but what was the reality?

    This is exactly the same thing. It's a scam.

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    The Artic ice is shrinking, I'll concede that. Climate change is very real, too.

    I think it's ridiculous to suggest this is something we can stop or slow down. It would happen, as it has happened before & will continue to do so, for however many billions of years the Earth continues to exist & existed before mankind ever turned up.

    Climate change (as opposed to the weather) is measured in centuries or more & to suggest a slight rise in the last fifty years or so as some sort of forthcoming doomsday that can be prevented by putting our hands in our wallets & up there with believing in the Tooth Fairy.

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    ^ Agreed. Even if we banned all cars and shut down all factories, we're still gonna get it, imho.

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    I'm looking forward to living by the seaside

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    It was Al Gore started all this climate crap.

    Solve the problem at source. Next time he cruises past a grassy knoll. BLAM BLAM. 'Lone gunman'. No more climate change.

    Hold on !

    Didn't he do internet porn as well ?

    Oh oh ! Dilemma time.

    Better sleep on it methinks.

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    Agreed. Even if we banned all cars and shut down all factories, we're still gonna get it, imho.
    True, but It doesn't mean we shouldn't try and reduce our impact anyway if it may benefit future generations, well when I say 'we' I mean some countries and industries that could reduce their impact, but seem reluctant to do so.

    This is exactly the same thing. It's a scam.
    Are you sure it's not you that's being scammed Doc,
    those that have the greatest opposition to controls also have the power to sway opinion or create an alternative reality.
    Last edited by Robski; 12-09-2007 at 02:43 AM.

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    I bet the dinosaurs were really POed about the Ice Age, too. Guess they didn't eat enough baked beans.

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