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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    ^ Erm HW if you are Vaping you haven't really given up, just switch health risks to a new product, albeit not as dangerous (?).
    No mate I don't vape anymore either. Just used them as a delivery vessel for ever decreasing nicotine level juice, started with 28mg and in the end it was 0mg juice so at that point I was no longer addicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    No mate I don't vape anymore either. Just used them as a delivery vessel for ever decreasing nicotine level juice, started with 28mg and in the end it was 0mg juice so at that point I was no longer addicted.
    Good man, in that case we have high hopes for Dill.

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    ^ I'll soon be down to 40 of these things a day. This time next Decade Rodney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    I'll soon be down to 40 of these things a day. This time next Decade Rodney
    Buy a second one so you can chainsmoke, 30 secs is a way too long delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Just push the top of the vessel up and insert your tiny tab
    talk dirty to me baby

    I changed to a vape - stopped smoking cigarettes instantly

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    Should really pack it in.
    Coughing up gunk in the morning is a regular occurance nowadays even though I only smoke 10 low strength menthol a day.
    Still expensive at 120 a month.
    Apparently they are banning menthol cigs in the UK this year.
    Might be forced into giving up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Apparently they are banning menthol cigs in the UK this year.
    Hmmm. Following the US' lead where all flavoured tobacco is banned


    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Still expensive at 120 a month
    10 heets a day will knock that down to 70 a month. Give em a try. It'll only cost you a tenner for 4 packs and a 14 day trial where you can send it back if you want FOC. I reckon you won't though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Hmmm. Following the US' lead where all flavoured tobacco is banned
    No its not, it is only being talked about..

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    Oh right. I read you couldn't buy flavoured Heets in the US because it's banned there for some reason, so assumed it would be all tobacco

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    Ahh,, it's e-cigarettes where the ban is so children don't turn to them. Why can't they turn to flavoured cigarettes then?

    FDA finalizes enforcement policy on unauthorized flavored cartridge-based e-cigarettes that appeal to children, including fruit and mint | FDA

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    The flavoured ones are worse than the normal ones, what are those ones you can get ready rolled?

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    Just don't do it anymore. Simple.
    "In my professional assessment as an intelligence officer, Trump has a reflexive, defensive, monumentally narcissistic personality, for whom the facts and national interest are irrelevant, and the only thing that counts is whatever gives personal advantage and directs attention to himself."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Just don't do it anymore. Simple.

    ....without the unnecessary attention to oneself.

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    ^You should mostly definitely keep smoking and assuring us all you're *lighting one up as we speak*. Start a gofundme page to rattle the tin if they're expensive in America and I'll be the first to contribute.

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    *lighting one up as we speak*
    Seemingly oblivious to how heartening that knowledge is.

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    Quitting can be tough. Nicotine is a powerful drug. But with a mixture of the tools you get from reading Allan Carr`s Easy Way to Quit and the right mental approach, it`s possible. The book also gives insight into the side effects you can experience and how long they will last - which is good to know..... but to be honest, I`m not sure if the book is completely accurate in this regard. The book says it takes 5 weeks to for nicotine to completely leave your body. . It`s my opinion that the physical addiction lasts a little longer than the book suggests - closer to 7 or 8 weeks. Unfortunately, the only real way to test is to have a cigarette imho. If you get head spins, you are still addicted. If you don`t get head spins, it just tastes like shit, and you are no longer addicted.

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    Some opinion now suggests nicotine is not as powerful an addictive substance as it is made out to be

    It is the enhancements provided by other chemicals in the cigarette that seem to be a much bigger issue

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    My Brother smoked 40 a day,then had a heart attack and was prescribed Chantix,available in Thailand and instantly stopped smoking.

    He hasn't smoked since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Some opinion now suggests nicotine is not as powerful an addictive substance as it is made out to be

    It is the enhancements provided by other chemicals in the cigarette that seem to be a much bigger issue
    That would explain why I found quitting self rolled tobacco easier than quitting tailor mades.

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    I don't know if my experience is the same as for others but even after all these years of having quit later I still want a cigarette from time to time I just know I don't need one.

    That was the epiphany / moment of clarity for me back in the day when I realised I'd gone from 'smoker trying to quit' to 'non-smoker'.

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    I quit in July 2003 from a heavy 20 to 40 Drum or Samson roll-ups a day to nothing, over night.

    I was 36 and been a heavy smoker since my late teens, but eventually the stress of knowing I was wrecking my health out-weighed the stress of stopping. I would wake up at night coughing so badly that I could start retching.

    One day I arrived on a boat for a month's work, had a last roll-up on the back deck and then just threw the rest of the duty free Drum over the side. I've never had a single puff since.

    The first two weeks were very difficult, but it just became easier and easier. At first the hardest part was sitting at a bar without smoking and without the regular 'ceremony' of rolling cigarettes. I was good at it... could roll a perfect cigarette one-handed while driving no problem.

    I'd tried to stop numerous times before, and it generally went OK for six weeks, then when I thought I'd cracked it, I'd allow myself the occasional cigar when having a pint, and within two weeks I'd be on 10 Hamlets a day, and inhaling. So back to the roll-ups.

    Even after 16 years I still occasionally dream about smoking and still love the smell of a fresh roll-up, especially Old Holborn... I have no problem sitting next to someone smoking and enjoy the smell of the fresh tobacco smoke (not the smell on their breath)... but something changed inside me and I just don't want one any more.

    Best thing I ever did. I live in hopes that the same thing will happen with alcohol and one day I'll just not fancy a pint.

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    ^^The 'association' thing for me was the hardest part about quitting cigs. A smoke with a morning coffee, after any stressful phone call, out driving in the car, etc.
    The nicotine leaves your body after 3 days, but the mental association for smoking in certain situations can last a lifetime. I sometimes think about a cigarette, and after a few moments realise I don't smoke anymore, and thank fukc for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    I don't know if my experience is the same as for others but even after all these years of having quit later I still want a cigarette from time to time I just know I don't need one.

    That was the epiphany / moment of clarity for me back in the day when I realised I'd gone from 'smoker trying to quit' to 'non-smoker'.
    Ditto.
    2 years in April.
    Flying back to the UK via Swampy, with the missus and lad for a months hols missing Sonkran out.
    Went outside, said this is the last cigarette i ever smoke, smoked it, threw the rest of the packet, papers and lighter in the bin.
    Routine change for a month helped, as did i believe, being a roll up smoker my whole life - far less chems in them compared to a taylor made.
    Pretty easy peasy to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiguzzi
    Flying back to the UK via Swampy, with the missus and lad for a months hols missing Sonkran out.
    Went outside, said this is the last cigarette i ever smoke, smoked it, threw the rest of the packet, papers and lighter in the bin.


    That's pretty much my story except for in reverse (I was flying back to Thailand from NZ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mendip View Post
    I quit in July 2003 from a heavy 20 to 40 Drum or Samson roll-ups a day to nothing, over night.

    I was 36 and been a heavy smoker since my late teens, but eventually the stress of knowing I was wrecking my health out-weighed the stress of stopping. I would wake up at night coughing so badly that I could start retching.

    One day I arrived on a boat for a month's work, had a last roll-up on the back deck and then just threw the rest of the duty free Drum over the side. I've never had a single puff since.

    The first two weeks were very difficult, but it just became easier and easier. At first the hardest part was sitting at a bar without smoking and without the regular 'ceremony' of rolling cigarettes. I was good at it... could roll a perfect cigarette one-handed while driving no problem.

    I'd tried to stop numerous times before, and it generally went OK for six weeks, then when I thought I'd cracked it, I'd allow myself the occasional cigar when having a pint, and within two weeks I'd be on 10 Hamlets a day, and inhaling. So back to the roll-ups.

    Even after 16 years I still occasionally dream about smoking and still love the smell of a fresh roll-up, especially Old Holborn... I have no problem sitting next to someone smoking and enjoy the smell of the fresh tobacco smoke (not the smell on their breath)... but something changed inside me and I just don't want one any more.

    Best thing I ever did. I live in hopes that the same thing will happen with alcohol and one day I'll just not fancy a pint.

    Pretty much me what you wrote.
    If there was no rolling tobacco and only taylor mades i would have given up decades earlier.
    Hate the things, but loved my Dutch rolling tobacco.
    Moved here in 03 and quickly grew to love the Nong Khai brands, 10 baht a pack bonus too!.
    3 mugs of coffee am and 6 roll ups. Evening beer = chainsmoke one after the other.
    I too still enjoy the smell of rolling tobacco, but i think worldwide it is getting more difficult for a smoker to be sociable, which makes it easier to give up.
    In 2 years i've gone from 100 to 110/112 kgs in weight though........... Fat fuck.

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