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    I didn't say he had PTSD I used PTSD as the Govt/Mod has over the years denied PTSD claims and delved into the claimant's childhoods and successfully denied any such claims and there has been a significant rise in mental health issues amongst servicemen and women.

    The MOD has thousands of homes left empty for years and hasn't ever tried to accommodate these people.

    Here are a few facts/reports if you wish to read.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/77...-Rhicha-Kapila

    Mental health issues among UK Armed Forces rise 78 per cent in eight years | The Independent

    http://media.britishlegion.org.uk/Me...melessness.pdf

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/83...-welfare-links

    Good to see there has been a significant rise in the numbers of people signing the petitions,some of the media has tried previously over the years but the govt has not done anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    http://media.britishlegion.org.uk/Me...melessness.pdf
    You published a link that says that homeless veterans numbers have actually fell.

    The proportion of veterans among London’s single homeless population is estimated tohave fallen from above 20% in the mid to late 1990s, down to 6% in 2008. In terms ofthe number of veterans, this is a reduction from an estimate of between 3,000 and 4,000down to approximately 1,100. This has been attributed to a combination of reducedoutput from the Armed Forces, improved Ministry of Defence (MoD) resettlementprovision and better intervention from ex-Service charities.
    There is little evidence to support the notion that military life, or institutionalisation, is acause of veterans’ homelessness. There is some evidence that, for a minority, militarylife, through factors such as trauma of combat, mobility of the job or the drinking culture,had reduced their ability to cope post-Service.
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    Try posting the whole link,and waiting for the info that i requested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Lob so lt get this straight PTSD is bullshit and if a person suffers from Any mental illness from Civvy st is dross.?
    ahhh best educate urself before trying to converse with me on a higher plain mate. why do u think there are more loons dross mentally ill individuals today than ever before. granted with the efficiency of tinternet, its out there more.... my take is, the more u skweel for freebees the more u may get, only the really needy, poor bastards, and people with no, or little self respect beg borrow and steal...

    oddly i met a lad on the beach just yesterday, told me he had ptsd, lost two mates in afgan,, well holy shit in a long european campaign he'd have lost two platoons in two months or weeks, not two fucking mate, seems to me its a form of bragging rights, oh look wot i've had to suffer.....

    to address ur point ref my belief in ptsd,, well it aint nothing new mate, been around since stress, maybe longer,.

    u obviously dont understand my point ref the dross in syndrome. read it again. sloooly.

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    You do seem to be arguing against your own points, the British govt didn't give any help to de-mobbed veterans after wars, it was the Americans that did all the studies regarding mental illness,giving PTSD.

    Perhaps you didn't realise you had a problem.

    I could point you in the direction of many stories regarding the aftermath of the problems the armed forces personnel had and never understood what was happening to them.

    Here is one for you.

    There was no help for PTSD when I left the Army in 1945 ? but we still don't do enough for our veterans today - Telegraph

    Here's another from the states that is very interesting from the USA

    https://historyofptsd.wordpress.com/world-war-ii/


    Its also very interesting the Americans give preference to veterans to be employed in the police there, though Knowing PTSD is a major factor,in Police brutality there.

    The Brits we're left to there own devices
    Quote Originally Posted by lob View Post
    ahhh best educate urself before trying to converse with me on a higher plain mate. why do u think there are more loons dross mentally ill individuals today than ever before. granted with the efficiency of tinternet, its out there more.... my take is, the more u skweel for freebees the more u may get, only the really needy, poor bastards, and people with no, or little self respect beg borrow and steal...

    oddly i met a lad on the beach just yesterday, told me he had ptsd, lost two mates in afgan,, well holy shit in a long european campaign he'd have lost two platoons in two months or weeks, not two fucking mate, seems to me its a form of bragging rights, oh look wot i've had to suffer.....

    to address ur point ref my belief in ptsd,, well it aint nothing new mate, been around since stress, maybe longer,.

    u obviously dont understand my point ref the dross in syndrome. read it again. sloooly.

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    Good to see people care, and the emergence of a new political party for the people by the People.

    Veterans Launch Political Party After SAS Hero Left Homeless While Govt Lavishes Money on Foreign Aid, EU

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    chico,,, mate,,, u seem to be under the illusion that politics runs a country,,,,, the fact is big monopolies run gov's, the world over. there is no choice ref elections. whomever u fancy yourself as electing are bought and paid for by ,,,,, read above.

    ref 1945,,, your mention,,,,, there were less people on the street after that fiasco, with 90% of the male populous engaged . 100% of the city populace were constantly bombed, some most nights for 4 yrs i dont know one case of a civvy living on the street due to that experience, that would include some hundreds of my personal family, extended, but as has been said the population didnt have handouts back then... i wonder why, older folk are prone to not ask for handouts. ............. why do u think that is chico.

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    Lob you seem to have a habit of making statements that I've supposed to of posted but can't for the life of me see where I have referenced homelessness after the war, though you're referring to be speaking of bombing usually after a war the Bombing stops.

    We seem to be speaking about civvy's now and not armed forces personnel.


    Quote Originally Posted by lob View Post
    chico,,, mate,,, u seem to be under the illusion that politics runs a country,,,,, the fact is big monopolies run gov's, the world over. there is no choice ref elections. whomever u fancy yourself as electing are bought and paid for by ,,,,, read above.

    ref 1945,,, your mention,,,,, there were less people on the street after that fiasco, with 90% of the male populous engaged . 100% of the city populace were constantly bombed, some most nights for 4 yrs i dont know one case of a civvy living on the street due to that experience, that would include some hundreds of my personal family, extended, but as has been said the population didnt have handouts back then... i wonder why, older folk are prone to not ask for handouts. ............. why do u think that is chico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    He is laughing at buriramboy, who has been convicted of violence against women. Any ugliness of character here shows in your support for the bigoted woman beater.
    I slight disagreement with one woman his Mrs, not plural, you need to look up the meaning of bigot like a few others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai3 View Post
    I slight disagreement with one woman his Mrs, not plural, you need to look up the meaning of bigot like a few others.
    Not his missus and you need to look up the meaning of convicted (Like you don't know, why was it they called you the Beast of D Wing again?)
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