Transphobic if you refuse to date a trans woman

**Simon43** · 13-01-2018, 08:02 AM

Where does the Beeb come up with this shit?

Is there really an issue when a straight guy doesn't want to fcuk another man who has had his dick cut off?

India Willoughby: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman? - BBC News

**Maanaam** · 13-01-2018, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Simon43

Where does the Beeb come up with this shit?

The Beeb is only reporting that there is an emerging debate.

Originally Posted by Simon43

Is there really an issue when a straight guy doesn't want to fcuk another man who has had his dick cut off?

Yep, that's the debate. Preference or discrimination.

I'm on the "preference" side of the debate. Having said that, if I was single and met a woman who ticked all my boxes and then revealed to me she was transgender, I would like to think I'd not kneejerk but do some soul-searching.

**Simon43** · 13-01-2018, 08:57 AM

So if you're a straight guy and refuse to fcuk a gay guy, does that make you homophobic?

**DJ Pat** · 13-01-2018, 09:02 AM

Begbie's reaction in Trainspotting might just be acceptable...

BBC - Brown Bumboys Corporation

When well known Brit boxing promoter Frank Maloney became 'Kellie' the following week BBC were all excited anticipating a backlash from the male dominated boxing world.

Apart from a few whistles and cheers from the crowd at the latest promotion, nobody really gave a shit. Bloke or not, Maloney's well respected in the fight game. BBC did their best to put a negative discrimitary twist on it, but failed miserably.

**Maanaam** · 13-01-2018, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Simon43

So if you're a straight guy and refuse to fcuk a gay guy, does that make you homophobic?

Absolutely valid point. The answer is no.
Where there is a distinction in this debate is the woman is a woman, not a man but some hetero men may find her history off-putting.

Comes to mind the old thing about once you've seen sausages or chicken nuggets being made you no longer want to eat sausages or chicken nuggets. It's all in the mind. Chcken nuggets were great until you saw what went into them. She was great until you knew her history.

I wonder if that Ginuwine chap would have jumped her had he not known? I suspect he would have.

**Fluke** · 13-01-2018, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Simon43

So if you're a straight guy and refuse to fcuk a gay guy, does that make you homophobic?

If a gay guy refuses to have sex with a woman, would that make him straightaphobic ?

**uncle junior** · 13-01-2018, 09:45 AM

Transphobic...not that there's anything wrong with that.

**VocalNeal** · 13-01-2018, 12:02 PM

Ford had it right?

A transgender is neither male nor female, so is a trans-it.

**david44** · 13-01-2018, 12:12 PM

When considering there is am old saying caveat emptor, the trades descriptions act comes to mind. To each there own and some will accept and others not, honesty and keeping the state out of adult consent seems the core.

While I'm all for children learning about the real world perhaps they should learn to read and write first before having to 'choose/be stereotyped'.We are living through the era of entitlement where personal pleasure and gratification refuses to be honed by states or religion in developed countries, this doesn't seem to be the case in the Islamic world where those who don't fit or fit in the wrong slot are seen as backward.

In an odd way Slyam seems to lead the way in terms of libertine behaviour and seems none the worse for it, the acceptance of gays toms and katoeys seems very matter of fact. We'll know it's history when there's a Katoey leader or lesbian Pope/Mufti/Archbishop

**Thailandbound** · 13-01-2018, 01:35 PM

^I totally agree, david dear.

It is all about placing labels on people. I think that it is a person's decision whether they want to date a transwoman or not.
I have a friend who has a son, who is now taking hormones to become a woman. She now has a gf (they are only 17) and they seem happy together.
The US and UK have gone over the top with labels and 'racial bias' etc..

**Maanaam** · 13-01-2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

I have a friend who has a son, who is now taking hormones to become a woman. She now has a gf (they are only 17) and they seem happy together.

That sounds fine, but I'm confused; The boy wants to transition to a girl so as to have a girlfriend. So he, now she, aspired to be lesbian?

**DJ Pat** · 13-01-2018, 02:11 PM

Transitions can often be hit & miss. Some farangs undergoing the transition aren't very attractive.

Frank Maloney (below right)

Kellie Maloney after chop op

**Thailandbound** · 13-01-2018, 05:04 PM

^Who cares, it is all about what makes these people happy. Look at Bruce Jenner for example. Not the most attractive woman, but she is so happy now being who she truly feels she is.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

but I'm confused; The boy wants to transition to a girl so as to have a girlfriend. So he, now she, aspired to be lesbian?

I think she always liked girls, but as a young girl always felt like a boy from very early on. I am best friends with her mom, so I know a lot about what my friend is going through. My friend's daughter who was born a girl, was having menstruation and literally screaming and freaking out because she felt like a boy. My friend wanted to wait till at least 16 before taking him to start the hormones. I know it is confusing, but two young girls (15 years) I know, are now boys or at least acting like boys (not fully a boy).

They really feel like they are a boy and not a girl.

There is a term for people who are born this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria

**DJ Pat** · 13-01-2018, 06:02 PM

Living in Thailand you end up thinking 'so fucking what if that's a ladyboy' it's a daily occurence.

Its mostly western countries who make a childish song and dance about it.

Some clueless blokes even assume they'll automatically get propositioned if they meet one.

The west gotta just move on and catch up.

**Maanaam** · 13-01-2018, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Pat

Some clueless blokes even assume they'll automatically get propositioned if they meet one.

Yeah, funny eh?
"Oooo...he's going to want to rape me!"

**pseudolus** · 13-01-2018, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Simon43

Where does the Beeb come up with this shit?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

The Beeb is only reporting that there is an emerging debate.

The bbc doesn't report. They push agendas. This is their core purpose. This shit comes straight from the Tavistock Institute. Emerging debate my arse. No one would have thought of such a pig stupid idea until the bbc and the rest of them started pushing this.

"I'm trans. I am a woman born in a mans body which I have since changed back to how it should have been".
" So you're a bloke? Well fook off gay boy! I'm not podgering a bloke"
"You'll be hearing from my lawyers. I'm trans. I have rights. The BBC told me I do. You transaphobic monster"

Slap
"Fook off shifter"

**Maanaam** · 13-01-2018, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Slap
"Fook off shifter"

So the bloke did the bitchslap?

**pseudolus** · 13-01-2018, 07:16 PM

Which bloke? the one in a dress or the one not in a dress?

Slap - give that fucker a slap. A punch.

**SKkin** · 13-01-2018, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thailandbound

Look at Bruce Jenner for example. Not the most attractive woman, but "she" is so happy now being back in the spotlight and getting lots of attention.

FTFY

**uncle junior** · 15-01-2018, 08:49 AM

Speaking of trannies.......

http://Chelsea Manning releases firs... in Senate run

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