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    Wet myself at this teacher's spelling mistake

    So I go into my grade 8 (13 years old - all girls) class today to find 2 words written on the whiteboard.

    "canute"
    "c u n t"

    'Er, what is this?' I ask (worrying about what answer will be given)

    'Our history lesson, our Myanmar teacher taught us all about King Canute and his nickname c u n t'.

    So I am trying not to wet my pants at this point, and point out that his nickname was actually 'cnut' (which is almost as bad....), and please try not to write c u n t on the whiteboard.

    'So what does c u n t mean?' ask the girls. (They are not taking the piss, as 13-year old Thai schoolgirls might, they genuinely don't know the word)

    Well, I didn't 'go there' of course, but directed them to look in their pocket dictionaries (because I guessed that such small dictionaries wouldn't list this word).

    I guessed wrong!!
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    Wonder if they teach about Cnut better than they do in western schools? Cnut was not being arrogant when he tried to stop the tide coming in, but was in fact demonstrating that Kings were not gods, had no unearthly powers, as had been assumed by the turnip eaters.

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    funny that same word in French is not as offensive as it is in English

    Fuck is much more offensive,

    not sure why you English hooligans all think that c u n t is such a bad word, what is the origin of that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    funny that same word in French is not as offensive as it is in English

    Fuck is much more offensive,

    not sure why you English hooligans all think that c u n t is such a bad word, what is the origin of that ?
    English culture is based on closet homosexuality, of course they hate any reference to female genitalia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    English culture is based on closet homosexuality, of course they hate any reference to female genitalia.
    I guess that's a good explanation,

    In French, le con ou le conne is used quite regularly without raising any eyebrows

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    For me, the funny part was that the 'mature' Myanmar teacher had no idea of the meaning of the word that she had written on the board.

    Next week's history lesson is about Mullah Faruck, fondly known by his nickname of Mullah F u c k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    For me, the funny part was that the 'mature' Myanmar teacher had no idea of the meaning of the word that she had written on the board.
    Why would she?

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    Why would she?
    Hmm.. let me think. She's a History teacher, but all classes are taught in English. She reads and writes English at an advanced level.

    Maybe, just maybe, you'd think that she would have encountered the word c u n t in her studies of English?

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    Au contraire! Cvnt is a term of endearment between blokes in the UK. Its just the bunched up panty pooftahs in Aufalia and Merkini land that take offence from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    she would have encountered the word c u n t in her studies of English?
    Wonder if she knows cum receptacle or Jizz Storage Inc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    Hmm.. let me think. She's a History teacher, but all classes are taught in English. She reads and writes English at an advanced level.

    Maybe, just maybe, you'd think that she would have encountered the word c u n t in her studies of English?
    IMO she's nowhere near as dumb as the middle aged male western teacher who suggested in class that a group of 13 year old girls look up the word 'c u n t' in a dictionary.

    That might be a difficult one to explain away to the Pricipal, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Au contraire! Cvnt is a term of endearment between blokes in the UK. Its just the bunched up panty pooftahs in Aufalia and Merkini land that take offence from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Au contraire! Cvnt is a term of endearment between blokes in the UK. Its just the bunched up panty pooftahs in Aufalia and Merkini land that take offence from it.
    or maybe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    Hmm.. let me think. She's a History teacher, but all classes are taught in English. She reads and writes English at an advanced level.

    Maybe, just maybe, you'd think that she would have encountered the word c u n t in her studies of English?
    Again, why would she? Do you think her History lesssons should start with "alright, you cunts, sit up and listen!"? Shockingly many people who have studied languages at advanced level are still unaware of many of the obscenities, colloquialisms, and slang terms associated with that language. Instead they concentrate on learning to read, speak, and write the language correctly and clearly rather than on learning the idiolects of drunken yobbos.

    And, as the proper spelling of Canute is Cnut, it seems to me the history teacher got it right and the student forgot the correct spelling.
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    IMO she's nowhere near as dumb as the middle aged male western teacher who suggested in class that a group of 13 year old girls look up the word 'c u n t' in a dictionary.
    Yep - you got a point!! How would you have handled their question then?

    And, as the proper spelling of Canute is Cnut, it seems to me the history teacher got it right and the student forgot the correct spelling.
    The teacher wrote c u n t on the whiteboard, not the students.

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    ^ dont the Burmese lose face like the Thais?

    Guess you'll find out in the headmasters office tomorrow

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    Oh dear.....


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    Dillinger, think you're going a bit over the top there mate.

    Rude word on the whiteboard, students have a good laugh, we talk about where/when this word should be used, end of story.....

    Forgot to add:

    Cut out this crap about Burmese culture. These students all have the latest mobile phone, all have laptops and they are picked up by Daddy in his Merc or have a private driver. They have been schooled in English since a few years old and already knew other swear words!
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    Save it for the board of directors mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Wonder if they teach about Cnut better than they do in western schools? Cnut was not being arrogant when he tried to stop the tide coming in, but was in fact demonstrating that Kings were not gods, had no unearthly powers, as had been assumed by the turnip eaters.
    Don't really expect Western school systems to pursue such esoteric subject matter as an obscure, or even well known, Burman king, do ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    Yep - you got a point!! How would you have handled their question then?


    The teacher wrote c u n t on the whiteboard, not the students.
    I'd have done what I always do when any teacher has been ill-mannered enough not to wipe their board clean when finished. It happens a lot in the ME.

    I'd have wiped it and got on with my lesson, after clarifying with the girls how it had got there.

    Seriously...that could have developed into a world of shit for you. Glad it seems that it probably hasn't.

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    Do not eat food or drinks that have been left out as spiritual offerings.

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    Seriously...that could have developed into a world of shit for you.
    Absolutely no way. This is not a PC school in Surbiton. If I considered it 'risky' to broach the subject, then I would have just cleaned the board. I know my students very well and provide them with the information and explanations that they should know as teenagers and soon-to-be young adults.

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    Not all educated people using English as a second language know slang, especially the "dirty" slang. Heck, I didn't know about Poms, Chavs, Convicts and socks with sandals until I began reading TD.

    For that matter, I only read about the "rusty trombone" and "mooning" on this site. So it's possible that the teacher (female) didn't really know the C word. She may not also have grown up as privileged (unlike your students now, since they're in an international or private school, so they must have rich parents). Maybe the teacher grew up poor & didn't have much money to watch Hollywood movies (and maybe they weren't shown on TV either).

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    hey I didn't know of the word c u n t until I joined TD

    and didn't how know much it was offensive in the English language years after that when I started using that word in random conversations with English natives

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