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    Thumbs down Addictions are nothing

    ...but pure weakness.



    Fuck heredity.
    Fuck childhood modeling.
    Fuck your neuroses, dopamine, glutamate, serotonin and your "disease."

    And fuck your psychosocial tendencies.

    If you're addicted and can't turn it off, you're a weak individual.

    Agree or disagree?

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    Totally agree. Bollocks to all the addicts in all their various guises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hick
    Addictions are nothing...but pure weakness.
    too strong.

    turn it down a little bit and i might be inclined agree.

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    ^^^
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    Have you ever been addicted to anything?

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    Dominant paradigm adherence.

    Disease.

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    Disagree.

    Wouldn't wish addiction on my worst enemy.

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    ^^^ The answer will likely be no (therefore I'm strong) or I was but now I'm not (therefore I'm strong).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Passing Through
    I was but now I'm not (therefore I'm strong).
    Anyone that "was" would probably not be saying that stuff. Normally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Have you ever been addicted to anything?

    Many things. Still am...


    Maybe I'm weak. Maybe....I'm a victim.

    Wondering what the TD crew thinks, is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    Have you ever been addicted to anything?
    Sure have.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post

    Wondering what the TD crew thinks, is all.
    Shouldn't bother, as the greater percentage clearly don't have this ability.

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    Elliott Gould: 'I didn't have a drug problem. I had a problem with reality' | The Independent

    He's very coy, however, about whether he's ever been a drug user. "I'm not in denial. Somebody had once asked me, on a late-night show in 1988, if I had ever had a drug problem. And I said, 'No, I didn't have a drug problem, I had a problem with reality!' But now that I accept it, it's my friend whether I like it or not. I always want to know where I am."

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    There's a big difference between over-using and addiction.

    I've seen people die a slow and painful death through alcohol addiction, and it's painful to watch.

    Whatever you call it, be grateful you aren't the one caught in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    There's a big difference between over-using and addiction.
    More please.

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    You don't have to be 'addicted' to alcohol to be an alcoholic.

    Meaning, you don't need to have withdrawals when you stop drinking, to be an alcoholic. I mean that would certainly categorize you as one imho.

    But you can go weeks not drinking and still be an alcoholic. People that are 'problem drinkers' are a great example. Get shitty drunk and do stupid shit and get in trouble. Start fights with family, friends, whatever. Wake up thinking "ill never do that again" and go a period of time with out drinking.... Then do it again. You aren't physically dependent on the alcohol, but yet you still do continue to do the same thing that causes problems.

    Alcoholic does not necessarily mean addicted to alcohol, as in physically dependent.

    Same thing with drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Get shitty drunk and do stupid shit and get in trouble. Start fights with family, friends, whatever. Wake up thinking "ill never do that again" and go a period of time with out drinking.... Then do it again.
    That's why I quit drinking...in a nutty-lookin' shell.

    Except ...usually waking up with an impending doom feeling that keeps rising...knowing I did or said...something wrong.

    My gal pal can only say...."that wasn't Hick last night. That was someone else."

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    I've seen a variety of addicts.

    Circumstances can force them to want that escape, understandable, but the ones who claim 'it's got them' and make no effort to exercise their own will power to be a better person are their own enemies.

    If will power was a drug that was illegal and sold by shady dealers, the world would be a nicer place.

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    Breaking an addiction is just a matter of forcing yourself to break the habit,
    using aids if necessary.
    It worked for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hick View Post

    Wondering what the TD crew thinks, is all.
    Shouldn't bother, as the greater percentage clearly don't have this ability.

    I'll drink to that!

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    Disagree.

    There are many reasons why someone may end up addicted to something, addictions can creep up on even the strongest of people.

    Yes, there can be an element of lack of self control leading people to addiction, and maybe at some point addicts have been weak in allowing their addiction to take hold. Yet, sometimes something which is pleasurable in moderation can become a terrible burden when used as a crutch when circumstances take a turn for the worse.

    I dunno, I know someone who 5-10 years ago was a massively addicted heroin and crack addict - begging in the street, shoplifting etc etc

    He met an amazing supportive woman who helped him go cold turkey and stop using. He is now in a long term relationship with her, has a child, has a mortgage on a 3 bed house in a nice area, has a full time job which pays 40k basic plus overtime opportunities...

    So, is he a weak person for succumbing to addiction and wrecking his life, or is he a strong person for kicking it to the kerb and completely turning his life around? I'd say the latter.

    Like anything, nothing is ever black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue
    Breaking an addiction is just a matter of forcing yourself to break the habit,
    using aids if necessary.
    It worked for me.
    Heh...Please say it wasn't "fisting," blue...

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    Disagree. Unless you have been addicted to something or care for someone who has then you don't really understand it imo. Several friends have ODed. Wouldn't wish addiction on anyone it destroys them and hurts everyone around them.

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    Just depends on how you look at it. Causing someone weak is a bit harsh, people have all sorts of weaknesses and drugs are just one of them.

    It is a choice to keep using though? Yes. Is it within a person's control to stop using? Yes, absolutely

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    Like anything, nothing is ever black and white.

    Didn't poll the blm movement then.

    I was going to say it is where I live but that's just plain in bad taste. Sorry, it's a terrible one liner.

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    Any of the addictions that are an aid to escapism, drinking, gambling, drugs of any class, are just so insidious as they can lie dormant for long periods of time, only to rear their ugly heads out of the blue.

    I had some counselling for both my drinking, which was causing big health problems, and for gambling too. The shock of being a case for a four week stay in rehab stopped me there and then for four months without a drink, but I hated the bordom and certain realities.
    Subsequently, I'm back where I started.

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