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    Escaped to Thailand without pp

    I know this Oz bloke who did some time in Cambodia the cops let him out on parol untill they could drain him for all his worth holding his passport. Anyway romour has it he's fucked off over to Thailand without passport the Oz embassy don't like the fact he's jumped countries without a stamp and not offering a new one. That's all I know so far from someone who recons they spoke to him in pattaya.

    Any speculation or experience with how it's going to end?

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    Badly.

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    Jump again to Malaysia, more chance there with a high commission...

    Or so I've heard * ahem*

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    Hmmm. Aiding and abetting a fugitive. Not good form?

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    If he goes to the Australian embassy and stated that he had lost his passport in Cambodia and crossed into Thailand illegally as he did not want the hassle in Cambodia.

    He could then ask for an emergency passport to get him back to Oz.
    Pay a fine at the airport for overstay, just have him state he forgets his arrival dates as he is an alcoholic.

    Australia and Cambodia have no extradition treaty with the exception of kiddy fiddling
    offences.

    The Oz embassy cannot withhold a home travel document as he would effectively be stateless and is ultimately entitled to be repatriated.

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    Be curious to know what criminal activity put him behind bars.

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    It will not end good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
    If he goes to the Australian embassy and stated that he had lost his passport in Cambodia and crossed into Thailand illegally as he did not want the hassle in Cambodia.

    He could then ask for an emergency passport to get him back to Oz.
    Pay a fine at the airport for overstay, just have him state he forgets his arrival dates as he is an alcoholic.

    Australia and Cambodia have no extradition treaty with the exception of kiddy fiddling
    offences.

    The Oz embassy cannot withhold a home travel document as he would effectively be stateless and is ultimately entitled to be repatriated.
    At Suwanabhumi they'll see he's not on the system and arrest him for illegal entry.

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    Possibly, but would they not then kick him out, back to Oz?

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    He could just say he lost his original passport after he crossed in by land, hence no stamp. As far as him not being in some computer database, does anyone really think the Thai computer entry and exit system is without flaws (particularly at some of the remote land border crossings)?

    I would plead ignorance. Claim I originally flew in to Cambo, Laos, or wherever. Then crossed in by land at some remote outpost the exact name of which escapes me, then lost my passport. They might huff and puff but honestly I don't think they would have enough confidence in their system to say with absolute certainty that the problem wasn't on their end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123 View Post
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    Possibly, but would they not then kick him out, back to Oz?
    They'll hold him for so long only if there is a profit to be made by the Thai side, otherwise asking Australian authorities to pick up the travel tab [which I'm sure they won't care for or refuse] or help contact family/friends for assistance.


    Depending on the current relationship with Cambodia, he could be extradited.
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    Could go either way, actually...what Redhaze says, or Thaimeme...

    But if he plays his cards right, what Redhaze said.

    The thing is : the Thai authorities may well have been given his name, and may be watching out for him when he leaves. So best to exit Thailand to Malaysia or Laos via a little-known or less popular crossing.

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    Any speculation or experience with how it's going to end?
    Assuming he wasn't jailed for kiddy fiddling, (even that offence seems to be overlooked by many), he could get a job in rural Isaan teaching at a government school.

    No need to go back to Oz, just shack up with some peasant girl, get paid 30,000 baht every month for teaching the little ones, and live the life of ... er ... a rather poor Reilly.

    Hang on, you said he was from Oz?

    Bugger, they only need teachers who can speak English
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    Any speculation or experience with how it's going to end?
    Assuming he wasn't jailed for kiddy fiddling, (even that offence seems to be overlooked by many), he could get a job in rural Isaan teaching at a government school.
    I'm always suspect of those going to Cambodia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brisie View Post
    all I know so far from someone who recons they spoke to him in Pattaya. Any speculation or experience with how it's going to end?
    SAS takedown... Cosa Nostra hit... Katoey date rape... anything is possible in Pattaya.

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    ^ Made I larf...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Be curious to know what criminal activity put him behind bars.
    Charged with being a fuck wit human trafficking, with holding pay from a Cambodian worker/s . A whole string of things that over a short period added up to really piss them off. Talking to an American friend last night recons NGO,s are pushing this as well.
    The old man is cashed up in Thailand so money isn't a problem.

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    Well he's in Pattaya I'm sure he'll find the help he needs.

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    He can apply for an emergency travel document from his embassy and then pop along to the main visa/lawyer office adjacent to the immigration dept in Jomtien. They will advise upon best action. The MFA Australia has no business refusing him an ETD and he should contact his MP etc. If he has served his time and is being extorted then the embassy has a duty to assist.

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    If he's been done for Trafficking he will be on the Interpol list.

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    Yeah that could be a problem

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    At least he's in the right place, Pattaya, home for losers, criminals, perverts and run away failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChalkyDee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Simon43 View Post
    Any speculation or experience with how it's going to end?
    Assuming he wasn't jailed for kiddy fiddling, (even that offence seems to be overlooked by many), he could get a job in rural Isaan teaching at a government school.
    I'm always suspect of those going to Cambodia.
    Yep, those 5 million or so annual tourists from around the world visiting Angkor, PP and cruising up and down the Mekong/Tonle Sap are a real fucking worry.

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    $10,000 will get him a fake passport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    If he has served his time and is being extorted then the embassy has a duty to assist.
    What happened is he was charged with offences. They slot you for 3 months before you front a judge to proceed with a hearing/court date. He has only been held till his court hearing where they granted him bail whilst holding his pp. He has charges against him but hasn't fronted court yet.

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