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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
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    After all who can be happier living in the moment, than a little child? She/he certainly has no other purpose than that albeit it's hardly a conscious desire, innit?
    Your point is good and gives me pause for thought.
    But, how much self-consciousness does a child have? That develops, and as the young human grows mentally, desires, and the means to attain those desires, grows.

    I think we are talking about two different things: A natural purpose of humans in general, in which case I agree, there is none (unless one subscribes to a belief in a God, which I don't), and the purposes we decide on for ourselves.
    Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking? | DiscoverMagazine.com

    Worth a read. The physics is not too heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
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    After all who can be happier living in the moment, than a little child? She/he certainly has no other purpose than that albeit it's hardly a conscious desire, innit?
    Your point is good and gives me pause for thought.
    But, how much self-consciousness does a child have? That develops, and as the young human grows mentally, desires, and the means to attain those desires, grows.

    I think we are talking about two different things: A natural purpose of humans in general, in which case I agree, there is none (unless one subscribes to a belief in a God, which I don't), and the purposes we decide on for ourselves.
    Does the Universe Exist if We're Not Looking? | DiscoverMagazine.com

    Worth a read. The physics is not too heavy.
    Ta. Yes, worth a read and to ponder (I've saved the link to read again...and again). My first impression (quite possibly to be discarded) is of a little bit of sophistry.
    It's blurring the lines between science and philosophy.

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    Rich and inside a girly...

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    Back on topic; Morphine is actually overrated through a lot of urban myth about the tranquil slip into whatever.

    Firstly, without the plastic bag/suffocation/alcohol support you may well not die. Regardless of how much you take. You'll certainly need stomach calments to avoid spewing it all up, and though various web sites say 200mg is enough there are folk out there who've taken 2,000 and lived to tell the tale.

    If you've been on prescription morphine your capacity is increased phenomenally.

    Secondly, the chances are that you'll slip into a coma and be reawakened with major organ issues and place all that ensuing care on the ones who you might be lucky enough to have looking after you.

    The idea of suicide with morphine is, on the face of it, attractive if that's what you want to do. the reality is not quite so clear cut.

    Nembutal, available, allegedly, in Thailand is the preferred drug of choice but even there the plastic bag and alcohol backup is recommended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lob
    u seem to see the top species as something different than other species,,,,, WE ARE ALL THE FUCKING SAME.
    Not really. Homo Sapiens is a bit special what with our cognitive bits and bobs and bells and whistles.

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    advance to wot, colonise another planet to fuck that up too. its all just academic b/s
    Bit of a negative take on the oustanding accomplishments of your species. We are the most important thing in the universe as far as we know since we have begun to understand how the universe works and document it. It important that we do get to other planets if only minimise the risk of our own extinction but I don't see why we would need to 'fuck it up' as you say.

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    Many websites will tell you that the best way is a shot gun to the head.

    But, many years ago I spent 3 months in the maxillofacial center in Rome.
    The Sapienza Hospital if memory serves.
    Anyway there were about 30 blokes on the ward with the most extraordinary facial injuries. A fair few motorcyclists who'd ridden at speed under the backs of trucks only their faces didn't make it but apropos the OP there were two totally unrelated cases of attempted shot gun suicides.

    They missed.

    They took off half their faces and were then looking to a 3 year plus attempt at rebuilding.

    Sadly (well a bit sadly), they got the piss taken out of them unmercifully by all the other patients.

    A calm relaxed easy going painless, mess-less, suicide isn't easy.

    However, a high rise condo in Pattya .............

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    As gory as a boxcutter to the jugular sounds I think it might be the go as I think you would just pass out from loss of cranial blood pressure and then die unconscious.

    Probably best to do it in the bath to avoid any unnecessary mess.

    In the horror movies the jugular always sprays blood up the walls. Would be interesting to do the definitive mythbuster check on that just before checking out.

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    Go to Aleppo and catch one of those Barrel bombs ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    Would be interesting to do the definitive mythbuster check on that just before checking out.
    If you're volunteering i'll organise the film crew

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    Well personally I am leaning towards something less bloody. Some kind of lethal drug cocktail. The boxcutter bloodfest is a bit theatrical for me. I am also not planning on live streaming the event as I don't think unwinding the mortal coil is really an activity that lends itself to exhibitionism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    As gory as a boxcutter to the jugular sounds I think it might be the go as I think you would just pass out from loss of cranial blood pressure and then die unconscious.

    Probably best to do it in the bath to avoid any unnecessary mess.

    In the horror movies the jugular always sprays blood up the walls. Would be interesting to do the definitive mythbuster check on that just before checking out.
    The problem with the wrist slashing, throat cutting route is the innate "sense of survival" (or whatever it's called nowadays)

    That actual physical motion as adverse to a simple jump or trigger pull or a slow slump into morphinesque oblivion has to be aggressive by definition and, in its own right presents and additional hurdle along with all the other conditioning.

    The momentary peak of anger or other emotions can help you to jump or fire or leap. Slashing your throat can be done in an instant but the build up would be huge.

    Same with wrists. Generally slashed the wrong ways and may cases of missed veins altogether.

    It's a funny old game.

    There's only one question, "why should I continue living?"

    Answers on a small dragon by return please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    I don't think unwinding the mortal coil is really an activity that lends itself to exhibitionism.
    You're right, it takes up so much space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    You'll certainly need stomach calments to avoid spewing it all up
    Not if you inject it IV. But that's not a peaceful slipping away, but a sudden knockout. Got to shoot the syringe fast, or you'll go unconscious before it's empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    Not if you inject it IV. But that's not a peaceful slipping away, but a sudden knockout. Got to shoot the syringe fast, or you'll go unconscious before it's empty.
    Surely that depends on the strength of the gear you're using. And your BP etc of course.

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    In the context of this thread, we're talking about a massive overdose, as in enough to kill an elephant.

    If you want to be absolutely certain, leave some air in the syringe and inject that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    In the context of this thread, we're talking about a massive overdose, as in enough to kill an elephant.
    Which is another bloody problem.
    Dosage.
    Tolerance
    General well being
    etc.

    It's a minefield

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    It's a minefield
    Volunteering for some mine-clearing would be an ethical option as you use your last moments to get rid of dangerous ordnance.

    Going out with a bang could be marketed as an organic ethical exit option with premium pricing to match.

    The television syndication rights could also be used to raise funds for charity for extra karma points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    It's a minefield
    Not really.
    Forget your 30m retard pills, we're talking about mainlining obscene amounts - google for junkies overdosing involuntarily to see how little it takes.

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    ^ I've thought of that for years, getting old coffin dodgers to walk through mine fields clearing mines. Trouble is if the detonate an Anti personal mine, with just a leg missing are you going to patch them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101
    It's a minefield
    Volunteering for some mine-clearing would be an ethical option as you use your last moments to get rid of dangerous ordnance.

    Going out with a bang could be marketed as an organic ethical exit option with premium pricing to match.

    The television syndication rights could also be used to raise funds for charity for extra karma points!
    Very good Sir. Green owed

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    I want a quick and easy way that guarantees death in an instant.

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    I would like to be taken out by an AGM114 Hellfire missile launched from an MQ1 Predator drone while sitting on the beach at sunset.

    I would like a live feed from the drone fed to an app on my phone as it acquires target lock and then from the camera on the front of the Hellfire as it is deployed so I can watch myself start off as an ant in the distance and then zoom in as the Hellfire screams towards me before leaving a smoking 10m deep crater on the beach.

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    ^ That sounds cool, Looper. It could probably be arranged quite easily. Take a flight to Yemen, make a few dodgy phone calls and send a few emails to someone called Muhammad and then just sit there and wait.

    Don't forget to get a mate to record the video feed and post it up here. What a way to go and what a way to be remembered!




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    A charcoal burner in a sealed space, like a car, tape over the vents and door frames, a popular Japanese idea,..sits 4 comfortably, if you'd like to go out with your friends.

    Just go to sleep.

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    Of course, there's heroic deeds to be done, if you can.
    Take out the local paedo and then suicide by cop, for example.
    Suicide bomb a criminal gang HQ.

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