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    If you dig up Vatican files on Greenland you find out that at one time there were approx. 10,000 Viking catholics living there with their own bishop sent out bye the pope. That they had farms with barns, the foundations are still there capable of holding 100 cattle, multiple barns of this size existed. To say its warmer now then then is a bad joke. Retreating glaciers in Italy a decade ago revealed a stone bridge dating back to the roman empire, the romans did not specialize in building bridges under or near glaciers, obviously it was much warmer during the roman empire and the glaciers were much higher up. And that's why Hannibal was able to make what we now consider an impossible march over the alps with elephants. The retreating glaciers revealed paths across the mountains to Switzerland with obvious human usage.

    But the lefttard media goes out of its way to stifle any and all of the proof that global warming is a bad joke. Why because its globalization is a key left wing policy and global warming is a huge justification for their activities.

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    Originally Posted by UrbanMan
    For the sake of discussion, lets say climate change is bullcrap. The fact remains that the general health effects of breathing air that contains car exhaust and other hydrocarbon emissions is highly negative. Anybody who has spent even a week in China knows this.

    Those who choose to live in cities will always be breathing these emissions but consider the abject stupidity of deliberately breathing pollution into your own lungs, highly negative right.

    Do you do it, its called smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulvarien
    globalization is a key left wing policy
    Erm, have a look at the aims & policies of Neo-liberalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    Noam Chomsky: Donald Trump's election will accelerate global warming and humanity's 'race to disaster'

    “It is hard to find words to capture the fact that humans are facing the most important question in their history — whether organised human life will survive in anything like the form we know — and are answering it by accelerating the race to disaster.”
    You would struggle find a more hysterical and ridiculous statement than that in a North Korean newspaper.
    Stuff like this just feed conspiracy theorists, and does not foment rational analysis or the formation of reasonable opinions.

    Does the man have no thought as to the effect this would have on his academic reputation? This is a political statement, as well as hyperbole; and it would never get anywhere near passing muster for publication in a serious journal.

    There is a really serious double-standard at play here that is quite disturbing, and it evidences a complete collapse in critical thinking by the media - it's the constant urge for clickbait and sensation.

    Frankly, he should know better:
    The film presents and illustrates Chomsky's and Herman's thesis that corporate media, as profit-driven institutions, tend to serve and further the agendas of the interests of dominant, elite groups in the society. A centerpiece of the film is a long examination of the history of The New York Times' coverage of the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, which Chomsky says exemplifies the media's unwillingness to criticize an ally of the elite.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufa..._and_the_Media

    In the world we live in today, the "elite" is a distant, authoritarian, globalist, left-leaning establishment - one reeling from defeat, and clutching at straws to try an get to grips with the challenge to its narrative of being the revolt against the establishment - because it is the establishment!

    It is the media that is the most dangerous "organisation" in the world today.
    How Biased Is Your Media?: A New Freakonomics Radio Podcast - Freakonomics Freakonomics
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/102776002/Foi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares


    It needs actual evidence. If you want to be objective about it, you have to acknowledge the amount of natural disaster and human misery caused by foreign policy decisions and response to natural disasters under Obama.

    Climate always changes; the thing that is accelerating is the number of humans on the planet. This doesn't translate into a direct correlation with chemical and energy input into the system, because most of these people are poor, so their impact is in low-level pollution - rubbish heaps, encroachment into eco-systems. Megacities are growing, and that does also have a major input, but it varies from region to region, with policies and attitudes.

    If you were being cold about it, you would price up the cost of environmental clean up of a WW3, and compare with the cost of environmental impact of the continuation of the current global economic system, and make a decision as whether it was in the species' interests for some parts of the world to continue with the same populations and cultures. Perhaps there is a middle way, and perhaps this is part of where left-leaning authoritarianism sees a role - as perferring soft managerial tyranny and localised conflict and environmental harm, versus a global conflagration... the risk is whether this approach will lose the ability to control and contain the situation, and end up with a "correction" happening anyway, and a messier, more drawn-out global crisis.
    Doves might say the Hawks are taking too big a risk; Hawks might say the Doves are kidding themselves that they are not taking an even bigger risk.

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    ^ Oh FFS can you just piss off you imbecile. No one wants to navigate your mentally ill word salad. Piss of back to infowars.

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    Thanks for another quality response to a well thought-out comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    a well thought-out comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Oh FFS can you just piss off you imbecile. No one wants to navigate your mentally ill word salad. Piss of back to infowars.
    agreed. way over our head.
    IMHO, if the dinosaurs didn't destroy the planet with their 100 million years worth of farting, burping and shitting, there is no way the Republicans will destroy it in 4


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo
    You would struggle find a more hysterical and ridiculous statement than that in a North Korean newspaper. Stuff like this just feed conspiracy theorists, and does not foment rational analysis or the formation of reasonable opinions. Does the man have no thought as to the effect this would have on his academic reputation? This is a political statement, as well as hyperbole; and it would never get anywhere near passing muster for publication in a serious journal. There is a really serious double-standard at play here that is quite disturbing, and it evidences a complete collapse in critical thinking by the media - it's the constant urge for clickbait and sensation.

    Frankly, he should know better:

    Quote: The film presents and illustrates Chomsky's and Herman's thesis that corporate media, as profit-driven institutions, tend to serve and further the agendas of the interests of dominant, elite groups in the society. A centerpiece of the film is a long examination of the history of The New York Times' coverage of the Indonesian occupation of East Timor, which Chomsky says exemplifies the media's unwillingness to criticize an ally of the elite.
    Along those lines...

    5 Times Corporate Media Got Caught Publishing Fake News Causing the Death & Suffering of Millions


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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    wiv a woman driver?
    Marie's the name. but not Le Pen. or is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding
    Those who choose to live in cities will always be breathing these emissions but consider the abject stupidity of deliberately breathing pollution into your own lungs, highly negative right. Do you do it, its called smoking.
    I don't smoke. And cities vary tremendously, Asia certainly has a bunch of really bad ones. India and Pakistan have several cities that consistently top the world's worst lists, worse than even China. The worst cities in western europe and america are not even close. Proves proper measures work.

    I'd like to know if The Donald has an air scrubber system for his $100 million new york city condo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanMan
    The Donald has an air scrubber
    I fink e'd gotta a Slo vac or a Slow Venial

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