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    Life's Crossroads/Seeking Advice

    Feeling a bit undecided, so I thought I would throw this out to the TD intelligentsia.

    Hitting 50 this month and trying to pick a path for the next 10, 15 years.

    Lost my well paying (relatively speaking) casino job back in January, picked up some unrelated work after, but quit after two months. Now I'm looking again but being very choosy. Choosy is not the right word, really. Half-assed is a better descriptor.

    Thing is, I don't know what I want to do when I grow up. I've enjoyed most of the work I've engaged in, but nothing that brought out a passion. The casino job I would have been happy enough to hold onto until retirement, but now that I've been booted I've been wondering if I should seek a different path.

    Casino job paid the bills, but wasn't anything near fulfilling.

    So, here's my situation:

    --No debts, house paid off, savings to last a couple of years of frugal lifestyle, no investments.

    --B.A. degree in useless discipline.

    --17 years in casino work, a year TEFLing, other odd jobs to pay the bills, USAF a loooooong time ago.

    I'm looking at getting certified in Office products and just doing temp work until I figure something out. Or, bite the bullet and start over in a semi-entry level position in a casino again.

    I do love to travel, and I unashamedly admire all the members here who have somehow created a career that incorporates travel on a regular basis, or who is based overseas while earning a living.

    I would appreciate any small amount of clarity. What would you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    I would appreciate any small amount of clarity. What would you do?
    You will have to decide that.

    Be careful about "falling" into something that you may not like.

    I'm in my late 40s and my job will outsourced in a few months.

    So, I'll be looking for new fun things in life.

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    Do something you like doing and make a living or career from that.

    If you don't enjoy your occupation and free time, what's the point in living?

    Choosing security over your personal freedom results in you losing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    bite the bullet and start over in a semi-entry level position in a casino again.
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    17 years in casino
    With 17 years experience why would you assume a "semi entry" positon.
    I would be looking for work at casino in countries you like.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    I don't know what I want to do when I grow up
    Neither do I and I'm 25 years older than you.

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    Good one!

    Similarly, and enjoying my time.

    Didn't realize you were my senior by 5 yrs.

    Long life and good health to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    --No debts, house paid off, savings to last a couple of years of frugal lifestyle, no investments.
    Being debt free gives you a lot of mobility.


    Good on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    bite the bullet and start over in a semi-entry level position in a casino again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    17 years in casino
    With 17 years experience why would you assume a "semi entry" positon.
    I would be looking for work at casino in countries you like.
    Yup - Singapore has Casinos. Cool place to work. Genting in Malaysia - a bit less inviting, but also a possibility. This is assuming you are not "black listed" for any reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    I don't know what I want to do when I grow up
    Neither do I and I'm 25 years older than you.
    I am only a bit older than OP - but same same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Singapore has Casinos
    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Genting in Malaysia
    Macau

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    1 Rent out the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    With 17 years experience why would you assume a "semi entry" positon.
    Probably caught thieving

    Get a job on cruise ship

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    There is a casino across from Mukdahan they have "western" staff is some positions.

    A word of caution. The grass may be greener .... but it is still just as hard to cut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    but nothing that brought out a passion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    but wasn't anything near fulfilling.
    ..and herein lies the rub. Goes something like...

    There is an old story about a hobby wood worker who made a toy for his grandchild. Someone else saw it, liked it and asked, if they paid him, would he make one for their grandchild. The guy said OK, for $10, which he did. then the person came back and said his other grandchildren like it would the man make another . The guy said yes for $20. When asked why the price increase he replied. Well the first one I made because it was my idea, it was a challenge and a gift. The second one was as a favour to a friend but now it is becoming like a job.

    So while some jobs maybe "fulfilling" it is why you do them that generates the fulfillment. Guys who have jobs to support their hobby, I find, are the happiest. Whatever their job and/or hobby is.

    If you don't have one. Find a hobby.
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    Better to think inside the pub, than outside the box?
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    Not much to add save to say that I used to wish I had a job that I could travel for... until I got one. It's an utter pain in the arse in my opinion and it invariably cuts into your own time with travel after hours/on weekends.

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    ^ I think by 'travel' the op means holidays.


    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Yup - Singapore has Casinos. Cool place to work. Genting in Malaysia - a bit less inviting, but also a possibility.
    I would have thought those places employed locals with reasonably good English skills and paid peanuts, no?

    I can imagine twenty something westerner eye candy being taken on, but a 50 year old bloke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^ I think by 'travel' the op means holidays.


    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Yup - Singapore has Casinos. Cool place to work. Genting in Malaysia - a bit less inviting, but also a possibility.
    I would have thought those places employed locals with reasonably good English skills and paid peanuts, no?

    I can imagine twenty something westerner eye candy being taken on, but a 50 year old bloke?
    Same as everything I would have though - experience counts for something. Not everything of course, and you do have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille
    but a 50 year old bloke?
    Depends on what he did in casino. 50 year old pit boss not unusual.
    Plenty if back office jobs as well.

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    ^^Ah maybe I misread that - thought he meant traveling for work.

    Anyway it sucks balls to the extent that I actively avoid it as much as possible these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    So while some jobs maybe "fulfilling" it is why you do them that generates the fulfillment. Guys who have jobs to support their hobby, I find, are the happiest. Whatever their job and/or hobby is.

    If you don't have one. Find a hobby.
    True, and this is what they say. But I think a lot of people are in "good enough" jobs, which are not so bad, but not so fulfilling.

    It does seem a bit odd that the OP would return to an entry-level casino position after having had considerable experience.

    Agent Smith....you cannot use any contacts generated previously ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    Casino job paid the bills, but wasn't anything near fulfilling.

    So, here's my situation:

    --No debts, house paid off, savings to last a couple of years of frugal lifestyle, no investments.
    Get a job ASAP to pay your bills and protect your savings. Two years isn't a long time and then you won't have any savings and may need to sell your house or do a job you don't like anyway.

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    Write down 6 good practical options and roll the dice

    The rental of ahome in San Francisco or London can provide a comfortable lifestyle in Thailand even allowing for tax and agents fees

    Basic Life is so cheap I am able to support very local charities called the in laws not talking luxury nor subsistence just pleasant everyday life

    Good luck amigo your young enough to have a go and change if you don't like it, enjoy life to the full while you have the energy.

    If I was in USA

    Try driving those ice rigs across alaska
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    Take a bit of time to get acquainted with yourself again. Sometimes, we just take the easy routes in life, thinking that it is what we want, yet still remain miserable in the end. You do not want your epitaph to say "He Died While He Was Still Alive!" Life is short. Figure out what you want, educate yourself in your career of choice so your chances of succeeding are on the UP side. Set a target of some sort, and start targeting that. Enjoy the journey.
    I am so unlucky that if I fall into a barrel full of D*ick**s, I'd come out sucking my own thumb!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    I would appreciate any small amount of clarity. What would you do?
    Just stay alive. It is not guaranteed and is harder than most people think.

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    Yup.

    Stay alive and healthy, or lose the lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    ^^Ah maybe I misread that - thought he meant traveling for work.

    Anyway it sucks balls to the extent that I actively avoid it as much as possible these days.
    Yup. Me too. Hotels, even 5 star wear thin after awhile. AND airports and plans suck.

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