Thread: Cheeky French Bastards!!!

Anyway just to keep a balance and not get into the good migrant / bad migrant narrative....here's a good read on one Afghan 12-year-olds journey across 8 countries before arriving in the UK... ....K



A gripping, inspiring, and eye-opening memoir of fortitude and survival—of a twelve-year-old boy’s traumatic flight from Afghanistan to the West—that puts a face to one of the most shocking and devastating humanitarian crises of our time.

“To risk my life had to mean something. Otherwise, what was it all for?”

In 2006, after his father was killed, Gulwali Passarlay was caught between the Taliban who wanted to recruit him and the Americans who wanted to use him. To protect her son, Gulwali’s mother sent him away. The search for safety would lead the twelve-year-old across eight countries, from the mountains of eastern Afghanistan through Iran and Europe to Britain. Over the course of twelve harrowing months, Gulwali endured imprisonment, hunger, cruelty, brutality, loneliness, and terror—and nearly drowned crossing the Mediterranean Sea. Eventually granted asylum in England, Gulwali was sent to a good school, learned English, won a place at a top university, and was chosen to help carry the Olympic Torch in the 2012 London Games.

In The Lightless Sky, Gulwali recalls his remarkable experience and offers a firsthand look at one of the most pressing issues of our time: the modern refugee crisis—the worst displacement of millions of men, women, and children in generations. Few, like Gulwali, make it to a country that offers the chance of freedom and opportunity. A celebration of courage and determination, The Lightless Sky is a poignant account of an exceptional human being who is today an ardent advocate of democracy—and a reminder of our responsibilities to those caught in terrifying and often deadly circumstances beyond their control.

Indeed, a good read if one cares for that sort of thing but I have never liked ethnic based fiction.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

and treating Pakis the same as other human beings is apparently normal which is not usual at all in the rest of the world.

Maybe cause the English created Pakistan. It's their baby.

Err, no, that was Jinnah.
You folk are really quite useless, aren't you?

It ain't a walkover by a long shot!

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

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Dunce 1

Originally Posted by stroller

Why don't you do some research before running your filthy Brit chauvinist mouth?

For example:
UK - In 2014, 4,015 asylum seekers were approved to stay.
France - In 2014, 5,825 were approved.

&, dunce 2.

The French are simple not dealing with these migrant/asylum seeker/refugees (yes, there are many different types) in their nation; instead, they are passing the problem onto the UK, as they have done for decades.

This is the kinda thing that France allows (yes, allows, it's in their country...):








As the OP states, rather than deal with the situation themselves they want the UK to set a centre in France where the asylum seekers/migrants/other can "apply for UK asylum".

The EU law is:

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Under EU rules, known as the Dublin Regulation, asylum seekers should claim asylum in the first safe country they come to.

This is very clear. The French, if they believe these folks are asylum seekers (as is indicated by Xavier Bertrand in the OP) then they are obligated to deal with the issue...

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The scum balls that fetch up in France and journey to Calais do not claim asylum.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Xavier Bertrand said many of the 9,000 migrants wanted to cross the border.
He said he wanted a new deal in which they could apply for UK asylum at a "hotspot" in France rather than having to wait to reach British soil.

From the OP, Mr Sausage, so try to read before spouting your bile... Just being aggressive with words doesn't hide your utter ignorance; quite the opposite.

Islamic abusive arguments mean nothing! Those Muslims do it all the time!

Big Mouth Muslim yakin on, loadshit!

Pop him over next time,.......friends..

we should move that camp into a shuttle boat so they couldn't be on French soil but UK soil as it should be

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The French are simple not dealing with these migrant/asylum seeker/refugees (yes, there are many different types) in their nation; instead, they are passing the problem onto the UK, as they have done for decades.

Fact remains, that 'the French' have processed & accepted more asylum seekers than your precious UK.

It's the UK which hasn't been pulling its weight.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

we should move that camp into a shuttle boat so they couldn't be on French soil but UK soil as it should be

They iz shit from Africa, send it back.

^ there's nothing wrong with Africans per se, but there's plenty wrong with allowing in folks from war zones (be that Boznia or Somalia) or folks who are radicalized and don't wanna live by British cultural rules (be they Boznian or Somalian).

^^ that has nothing to do with this thread.

I am rather fond of the UK, didn't realize that was a crime; I do apologize...

Personally, I don't want any asylum seekers in the UK, nada, none. I don't want any economic migrants either. I'd like British fellas and girls who marry foreigners to have stronger rights to bring their partners to the UK. I'd like lazy dole bludgers to get to work. I'd like the UK to train nurses, doctors, tradesmen and women of all sorts, so that we can do the jobs ourselves; British people with lifelong vocations. If, we bring in some workers in some spaces then I'd much rather give priority to hard working Filipinos and Poles than dole claiming Somalians and Nigerians.

&, the basic point of this thread is: we should be controlling our own borders not allowing the French to dictate to or affect us.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

that has nothing to do with this thread.

Of course it does, specially after your ludicrous claims re. France.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Personally, I don't want any asylum seekers in the UK, nada, none.

Thanks for admitting where your skewed 'arguments' are coming from, nothing more to discuss.

I'm green with envy, according to SA your a "fucking teacher" and that job in Korea !

You lucky bastard...

^ thanks for your input.

Originally Posted by stroller

Thanks for admitting where your skewed 'arguments' are coming from, nothing more to discuss.

Hmmm, fancy having a different opinion from you; suddenly a skewed argument...

Britain has been raped by immigration, greed culture and welfare culture for the last 2 or 3 decades. I don't much like coming out of the train station after a long day's work then being abused by a new immigrant from a war zone; especially when too many young British people are not working and should be.

Originally Posted by stroller

specially after your ludicrous claims re. France.

???

I pretty much just cut and pasted a news story then gave my opinion on it; you may wanna control your wild statements.

^ There is a reason DD kept stroller in the deepest dark dungeons. He is a subhuman.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Britain has been raped by immigration, greed culture and welfare culture for the last 2 or 3 decades. I don't much like coming out of the train station after a long day's work then being abused by a new immigrant from a war zone; especially when too many young British people are not working and should be.

It will be so much better in the future after you have Brexit and get full control over your immigration, eh?
Britain is such an immigrant magnet and that is what has created the Calais jungle, none of the migrants there has come for staying in France.
They wouldn't had come if their chance to remain in Britain was nil, if they were promptly exported to their home country as soon as they arrived in their intended destination, the UK.

TRAVEL website TripAdvisor has seen a huge increase in reviews for the French destination of Calais in recent weeks, mainly from angry migrants who claim that the coastal town is a far cry from what they were promised.

Thousands of migrants, formerly known as asylum seekers, refugees, or people, have spent months in makeshift camps on the outskirts of the port in Calais.

With neither the French nor the UK government doing anything other than thinking up better ways to fence them into campsites, many of the migrants have turned to TripAdvisor to vent their frustration and advise people against coming near Calais.

“Very similar to the conditions I fled from, definitely not the civilised western society in which I would be safe from persecution that I had dreamed about. One Star”, wrote one woman, before going on to give 1 out of 5 for rooms, cleanliness, and service.

Another of the 3,000 one-star reviews claimed that “toilet facilities are very poor, razor wire fences are a danger to our children, and anytime we make an attempt to reach a better life, French guards beat the fucking shit out of us before driving for miles into the countryside and dumping us on the side of the road to walk home. Would not recommend”.

Despite the negative ratings on TripAdvisor, Calais remains one of the number one destinations for thousands of migrants, with many dying to get there every day.

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Britain has been raped by immigration, greed culture and welfare culture for the last 2 or 3 decades. I don't much like coming out of the train station after a long day's work then being abused by a new immigrant from a war zone; especially when too many young British people are not working and should be.

It will be so much better in the future after you have Brexit and get full control over your immigration, eh?
Britain is such an immigrant magnet and that is what has created the Calais jungle, none of the migrants there has come for staying in France.
They wouldn't had come if their chance to remain in Britain was nil, if they were promptly exported to their home country as soon as they arrived in their intended destination, the UK.

Dunce 3...

Step 1: the sneaky French bastards to abide by international law and deal with their own problems (i.e. migrants/asylum seekers/other on French soil). Of course, the French may wanna ask the Spanish/Italians/other why they are not abiding by the Dublin Accord...); how great the EU free movement of peoples is working out for everyone...

Step 2: Britain needs a decent government to sort out our immigration issues; maybe a zero tolerance Convict style approach would help.

Despite your profound ignorance on the subject, you still profess to have a view and insist on expressing it. You are an insufferable little prig and quite inconsequential, an insight which clearly eludes you.

First things first, you cretin, no one can be compelled to submit an application for asylum simply because he is a self- declared refugee with some imagined well founded fear of persecution in a country from which he is allegedly fleeing.

The Calais migrants are no different to the Sangatte migrants who fetched up years ago and were admitted to Britain after we struck a deal to juxtapose controls.

These folk do not submit asylum claims in France in order to regularise their illegal status. To do so would exclude them from any chance of gaining entry to the UK and remaining there as refugees if they were subsequently refused a claim in France or, if treated as a refugee and granted such status in France they would probably have to wait a further ten years before obtaining citizenship and gaining entry to the UK that way.

They want to go to the UK to join their mates, or family or their community which has been established by their fellow nationals over the past 20 years. They also know the streets are paved with gold because they will be given benefits, housing, free health care and free education.

So, we have 10,000 plus fucking around Calais, illegally present who decline to submit an asylum claim. As I said before, what the fuck do you expect the French to do with them? Shoot them? Put them in prisons for fucking years if needs be? Gas them, beat the shit out of them and starve them until they fucking die? As I have said before, you dumbo, booting them out means fuck all because they return the next fucking day.
I suppose you think the French should mobilise an army of 5,000 security folk permanently deployed around and within the Calais hinterland who will do what exactly? Beat the shit out of them because they don't stand in the right fuckimg place?

You useless academic prigs are so fucking ignorant of the world as it is you have no idea just how it works. Either that or you are so fuckimg stupid you have no imagination.

Look, you mofo moron, the Septics with all their power and resources cannot control their border with Mexico.

In the end, you have to accept that western, civilised, liberal democracies cannot act like commie Russian thugs.

Understand, fuckwit?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Britain needs a decent government to sort out our immigration issues; maybe a zero tolerance Convict style approach would help.

And you would have them detained 'convict style' where, exactly?

Guernsey?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

So, we have 10,000 plus fucking around Calais, illegally present who decline to submit an asylum claim. As I said before, what the fuck do you expect the French to do with them? Shoot them? Put them in prisons for fucking years if needs be? Gas them, beat the shit out of them and starve them until they fucking die? As I have said before, you dumbo, booting them out means fuck all because they return the next fucking day. I suppose you think the French should mobilise an army of 5,000 security folk permanently deployed around and within the Calais hinterland who will do what exactly? Beat the shit out of them because they don't stand in the right fuckimg place?

very well said,

betty is a bit "naive" when it comes to politics and complex issues,

the poor thing is only teaching English in Korea, so what does he know about Europe ?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The French are simple not dealing with these migrant/asylum seeker/refugees (yes, there are many different types) in their nation; instead, they are passing the problem onto the UK, as they have done for decades.

Fact remains, that 'the French' have processed & accepted more asylum seekers than your precious UK.

It's the UK which hasn't been pulling its weight.

That's because we don't want the c u n t s.

Why do you think the majority voted out?

They aren't asylum seekers, they just want the free shit.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Basically, we need to make places such as France and Germany better propositions, so folks just won't come.

Germany is already a better proposition and more head there.

The UK is going to be in economic stagnation for a decade now, so maybe France will become more attractive too.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I don't want them detained at all.

But as thegent noted, if deported they tend to just bounce back...

Cyrille, families in the UK can't find places at school for their kids. Homelessness is massively on the rise due to a lack of affordable housing, and healthcare is being cut time after time; in one hospital this week, kids emergency services were stopped duye to lack of staff to cover the demand.

Allowing new people in who will go straight for and get housing, healthcare and education is just gonna exasperate the problem.

I'm all for people improving their lives, and I'd like to see a lot more done by Britain and other states such as helping to develop education and healthcare in places such as Syria, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan instead of sending troops and bombs - spend the money to help people, not to destroy their nations and create a humanitarian crisis...