Thread: Curious....

The empire [and promotion thereof] never fades, but will adjust to situations.

Originally Posted by Passing Through

Israel...Israel...Israel...What the hell has Israel got to do with a forum on Thailand?

Dunno.

You only have to look at TVF

That's OK. I'll take your word for it.

The TVF Israel debates are good, there are about 4 radical Israel supporters that control the board, and how they shout down any criticism of Israel with the same lines , repeated over and over.
Fluke ls a moderate compared to them.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Yes, pseudolus, I am anti gay and anti gay marriage, but gays are what they are and they are entitled to equal rights in society and equal treatment under the law.

Just because I am no fan of their ways and I tire of their holier than thou pressure groups does not mean I support their persecution and I certainly wish them no harm.

.. except you wish they were not gay, and also believe that they wish they were not gay as well?

I dont know what they wish, the gays that i know say they are happy with their sexuality, especially as they do not suffer the abuse and persecution they once did.

I dont care either way what they are, we must all be ourselves in our lives, and hope that others wil accept us for what we are. Honesty with others goes a long way to achieving acceptance. You soon find out who your friends are once honesty takes precedent over face and status.

If the subject has arisen i have have never hidden my views from the gays i know, it is harder to express my feelings regarding islam around muslims though. Some things, especially regarding religion, are better left unsaid to avoid things getting out of hand.

Like arguing with you here, i am never going to change your deeply held feelings about zionism and islam and george bush and the corporate world, and you will never change mine, well not until you stop posting the blinkered drivel that is your trademark and come up with some valid and reasoned arguments.

Originally Posted by taxexile

it is harder to express my feelings regarding islam around muslims though.

Probably more likely to get a hiding from a bunch of queers for saying you think they are freaks, than from a Muslim for saying their religion is one of hate and death

Originally Posted by taxexile

blinkered drivel that is your trademark and come up with some valid and reasoned arguments

There is no reasoning with bigots. It comes part and part of your condition. What you call "blinkered drivel" is typically factual information that goes against your deep help beliefs.

What should convince you that you might like to re-evaluate even just a little is that piwanoi now starts every post with "yeah, heh TAX.....". That should show you that you have gone too far, and rightly, if you continue along that track, will likely next be biting testicles off of whippets with piwi holding their tails up for you.

Fuck.. if piwi every agreed with me about ANYTHING I would be distraught.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

Originally Posted by thaimeme

What drives the extreme passions - pro or con/apologists or critics - regarding the Israel/West vs. Islam diaspora, especially from European/Western circles....??

A character that is instilled from birth?
An extreme learned conditioning? Fabricated?
A figment of cultural superiority/inferiority?


.....and most importantly, why?

free will v determinism?

biology.

the left will have you believe that there is only one kind of identity - your extrinsic identity (or identities) - the ones you can change and layer at will (though some may attempt to suggest it's some kind of determinstic thing).
this notion is not only incorrect, but also wrong (i.e.: immoral, or evil).
it's a world view that attempts to train people to disregard the intrinsic parts of their identity - the things they can't change - and reframe them through a prism of moral relativism. It's utter specious shite.
Intrinsic identity is what defines the "right-wing" or "conservative" or "identitarian" perspective - our ethnicity from our genetics and our national identities from the organic evolution of states over centuries.
The reformation. which saw a rupture beween the fatalism of old religion - like catholicism, and self-determinism of protestantism - the lord helps those who help themselves spurred the creation of a new kind of state, a corporate civil state like the USA, whence all other such "immigration/citizen-employee recruiting" states followed. New concepts of identity (like the concept of "white" and "black") had to be invented to address the cognitive dissonance of ethnically cleansing the land of it aboriginal inhabitants.
Since then these ideas have been imported from the new world to the old world, and the attempt has been made - through institutions like the EU - to supplant instrinsic notions of identity, with extrinsic ones, and by doing so to flood these ethnic states with alien ethnicities, and then shrug and observe the fait accomplis that all these brown people are "germans" or "poles" or "english" or "italians" now, and failure to accept this reality renders you an untermensch - somehow evil and intellectually flawed.
It's a disgusting and evil lie, and is reminiscent of the ethnic cleansing attempted in Korea by the Japanese in the interwar period; by the Chinese in Tibet; the Turks in Armenia; the English in Ireland and Wales; the French in all their colonies; etc...

We are demanded, when we see these hordes on the march, to not question the idea that the EU triggering a war and prompting these to come, to say there are 3 fingers being held up, not two, in true Orwellian style.

So in answer to your bong-induced question, Jeff, the passions are quite deep-rooted in origin, and are about the fundaments of morality and reality.

The left is trying to supplant identity in Europe by demanding the exculpation of people's core intrinsic identity, in place of a super-imposed extrinsic one defined by them. Once that work is done, this identity can be shaped and reshaped - this is how totalitarianism starts and works - it tells big lies, preys on human frailties for avarice and selfishness, and breaks down the natural ties between people - it's how cults work, whether they are scientilogy or juche.

It's why it's so important, whether you believe in european unity or not, to vote leave in the UK referendum - because doing so will trigger reform, and protect European people's right to ethnicity, which the left would have only apply to tinted-skinned and black-haired people - the same people it simultaneously and selectively excludes from the trade and human rights benefits of the EU.
It is a deeply corrupt and hypocritical regime, rotten to it's evil core - rotten because it's morality is flawed - it is possessed by the evil of moral relativism and the denial of people's human right to their intrinsic identity and sovereignty.

Does that clear it up any?

Rubbish.
Your theory implies that there is little or no intrinsic empathy or caring in humans.
Your theory tries to justify nastiness and selfishness as natural therefore excusable. Worse, it tries to promote nastiness and selfishness in others. C'mon, be a hater, it's naturally you.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by taxexile

it is harder to express my feelings regarding islam around muslims though.

Probably more likely to get a hiding from a bunch of queers for saying you think they are freaks, than from a Muslim for saying their religion is one of hate and death

Originally Posted by taxexile

blinkered drivel that is your trademark and come up with some valid and reasoned arguments

There is no reasoning with bigots. It comes part and part of your condition. What you call "blinkered drivel" is typically factual information that goes against your deep help beliefs.

What should convince you that you might like to re-evaluate even just a little is that piwanoi now starts every post with "yeah, heh TAX.....". That should show you that you have gone too far, and rightly, if you continue along that track, will likely next be biting testicles off of whippets with piwi holding their tails up for you.

Fuck.. if piwi every agreed with me about ANYTHING I would be distraught.

Your posts are full of hate and bile.

Pseudo, that you are a clueless fool and a childish blowhard has been proven without doubt by your responses on these threads.

In your blinkered delusion, you shout and rant like the bull necked crimson cheeked shaven headed agitator you probably are and refuse to address any issues put to you other than by repeating the same tired old conspiracy nonsense gleaned and distilled from the frothy rantings of the other equally deluded hate filled loons whose internet pages you gravitate to.

You claim to be show no bias yet the language of hate invariably creeps into your sneering and malevolent rhetoric.

I pity your family, neighbours and pitbulls.

Originally Posted by VocalNeal

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Religion. It's not just bigotry and xenophobia that cause such a large outpouring of anti-Muslim hatred...

Correct. The current antagonist and the cause of the latest problem/opinion/bigotry/xenophobia is the US of A.

An old decrepit tower was made to fall down so Islam is bad and they have been decrying/bombing Islam ever since and trying to convince the rest of the West that Islam is bad.

And I doubt if the USA would be quite so vocal and protagonistic if it didn't also suit Israel's agenda.