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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Get the family to transfer the land into the child's name, when it''s born, their grandchild.
    Can't have name on land papers til aged 21 is my understanding. If Sor Por Kor land then name on paper can only be change upon death of person on the paper. Legally cannot be transferred until then, so I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    John G and Prag, why all the negative comments?
    Cuz you're either a good troll or a very naive guy. I tend to think the first. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    The land will be in her name, the house both, so in the event things don't work out, the house gets split 50/50
    How can you split a house 50/50 unless you can access the land to use your 50%? When/If you fall out you're fcuked 100%. Stop trying to convince yourself you've got all bases covered.

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    ^Seen 'em come, and seen 'em go - for forty years now. You can't tell them anything. Don't even try. It's like trying to teach a pig to fly. It never works, and just pisses off the pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    The land will be in her name, the house both, so in the event things don't work out, the house gets split 50/50
    How can you split a house 50/50 unless you can access the land to use your 50%? When/If you fall out you're fcuked 100%. Stop trying to convince yourself you've got all bases covered.

    Nothing guaranteed that he might fall out.

    You talk of this as it might be expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    You talk of this as it might be expected.
    Plan for all senarios. Then if shit happens it won't come as such a shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Plan for all senarios. Then if shit happens it won't come as such a shock.
    or, "Plan for the worst - anything better than that is just a bonus"

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy View Post
    There is also a third choice. Coming on a tourist visa, asking for an extension for up to a year,
    You won't get an extension for a year.

    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy View Post
    reporting every 90 days to the local amphur,
    You don't report at the local ampur.

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    ^ Give up Nev he's got all bases covered. My last post on this thread.

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    ^No shit. Guy comes on a forum full of folks with decades of on the ground experience, and from the vantage point of Texas, wants to tell them how things really work in their country. No wonder bar girls walk around smiling..............

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    ^ I don't think the Fredster is from Texas. Me thinks he's British and hates Americans.
    Which is why he's passing himself off as a dumbfuck American.

    Sorry Freddy baby...Fail.

    $75k and wanting to retire in Thailand. Fogetaboutit Freddy I ain't gonna happen.

    The giveaway was the response, when I sent Freddy a PM with info about the US Embassy; his response was typically British: aloof and somewhat ungracious. Definitely not a Texan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister
    Get the family to transfer the land into the child's name, when it''s born, their grandchild.
    Can't have name on land papers til aged 21 is my understanding. If Sor Por Kor land then name on paper can only be change upon death of person on the paper. Legally cannot be transferred until then, so I believe.
    You can legally put charnot or provincial title in a child's name, some land offices are a bit anti on it, but a land lawyer can fix it up in no time.

    Good idea if you have kids, leave the land in your will to them, on one can touch it without a court order, until I think they reach 18 years old.

    Sor Por Kor totally different story, it's crown land, you don't really own it in the first place.

    You can change usership of Sor Por land before the owner dies, say the parents are getting on, they can hand it over to a son, or daughter to work, or a younger brother.

    3 year rule comes in to force, if you let someone farm it for 3 plus years, or you don't farm it for 3 years, someone can claim it.

    Best, cheapest land is possession land, no titles, farm it, pay the land taxes and it's yours. Charnot people come, you [Thai] get the title.

    Putting land/house in the kids names, stops the outlaws. ex wife getting control, family court works on the bases of what's best for the kids.

    Once you sign it over to your kids, your out of the loop as well, it's like a trust for their future.

    Either way, living in rural Issan, if things go bad, your on your bike, not local, not welcome, just the way things are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy View Post
    We are going to get the family property in wife's name, and the house will be in both of ours. John G and Prag, why all the negative comments? I was asking for advice here, because although I'm constantly researching ideas, including the legal issues regarding visas,and yes, 90 days at a time is a choice,with extensions up to a year possible, and I wanted the opinions of those that succeeded, not failed because they didn't treat their wives respectfully.
    Because, if you're genuine which I'm finding increasingly hard to believe, you're delusional.

    How has your research not told you that you CANNOT teach English unless you have a degree and are qualified?

    That you CANNOT get a one year or even a 90 day extension on a tourist visa?

    That you CANNOT make your 90 day report at the tessabaan / amphur?

    That you CANNOT own half the house with your wife? etc, etc, etc



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    I can own half of the house, as 3 different lawyers have told me, and 7 different foreigners I Know who are living in Thailand do. I do live near San Antonio Texas, and I'm originally from New Jersey, being in Texas the last 29 years. I'm not British, but 1/2 Polish and 1/2 Irish, 3 generations from America. You can get extensions on tourist visa, as 5 people I know who visit Thailand have done and have stayed there up to and over a year by reporting every 90 days to Chang Wattana Road in Bangkok and taking a border run to another country. I might be wrong about the amphur although a Thai friend here does it every year. Sorry if it appeared I was aloof Earl, I had no intention to be that way. I have read and taken all advice, although some posts are so negative it seems like they are hoping to see someone else fail because they have. I, like anyone who has come to Thailand and found a wife, am expecting the marriage to last, because I have heard that Thai women, although money is a big thing, still treat their husbands better than American wives do, who also want money and things. I treat women very good and as equals, and I know this isn't something a lot of men do, and suffer the consequences for it. I appreciate all advice that was given that was of a positive and teaching nature. I have heard of a few that have taught English without a degree, and some with a Tefl certification, who have taught out in the country, where it isn't so strict with regulations. Maybe they all were lying, or maybe some here aren't that informed. Time will tell. There are thousands of foreigners who live with their wives in Thailand, and some for many years. I don't think all of them are retired and over 65, and have a lot of money in the bank. Or maybe I'm wrong about this too? The main reason I came here was to get advice of a helpful nature. Some that I would put into practice and use. I have a wife in Thailand and a child on the way. My place is with them. If that means building a house a little smaller so I can have a tad more money in the bank to live on until I retire, that will be what I do. I will do whatever work I can find also. I have researched this a long time, both here, talking with friends here that are Thai, Americans that have lived there, talking with lawyers, one yesterday in fact, that has told me I don't have to have any money in the bank and can get a tourist visa that will be turned into an O visa, and that I can stay indefinitely, as hundreds of their clients have, by making border runs when necessary, along with being married to a Thai national, and contributing to the economy (building a house). Again, thank you to the ones that are trying to help. To the ones that want to see me fail, please see a doctor. I wonder how many that have posted negatively actually live in Thailand. Yes, you don't actually know me nor anyone else on this forum, and I can assure you I am not a "troll" or naive in any way, but by now, most can understand that I'm a legitimate poster that just wants some help from those that have been there. Some here seem to be happy with their wives and life in Thailand. Some don't. Keyser, took your advice and contacted builder. He's the one I'm going with. And I figured 50k for the house because that's what I've seen both here and in other sites would be the cost for what I wanted in a house.
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    Get yourself some pigs and chickens, maybe some frog breeding tanks and start a small farm.

    Also a Tefler certificate, then you can blag a job at a local government school for 30,000baht a month. Let them sort your visa or go off the grid and fook the visa.

    Life too short.

    Get on it like a car bonnet..


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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    The land will be in her name, the house both, so in the event things don't work out, the house gets split 50/50, along with any assets accrued after the marriage.
    If the marriage ends, how exactly will you use 50% of a house? They won't sell it because it is on their land. Would you feel comfortable entering their land to use your 50%?

    Seriously Fred, take peoples advice and rent for a year before you take the plunge. And be very aware that people aren't just being negative, they are trying to help. It just sounds like negativity to a person with blinders on.

    You keep saying women are the same everywhere. I, and others, can assure you that Thai women are a special breed unlike any other. Regardless of their backgrounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    You talk of this as it might be expected.
    Plan for all senarios. Then if shit happens it won't come as such a shock.
    Sage advice, but more often than not completely ignored due to excessive testosterone build-ups

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    I was actually thinking about renting for awhile,but as everyone knows, the funds are limited. It all depends on how much my house will cost after I talk things out with the builder, and how much profit I will have from the sale of my house. And mostly, I want to be with my wife and our soon to be child, so things have gone a tad faster than was planned. And although women all share the same kinds of traits, I know Thai's are a special breed with some distinct differences. I think I found a good one. Hope I'm right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chittychangchang View Post
    Get yourself some pigs and chickens, maybe some frog breeding tanks and start a small farm.

    Also a Tefler certificate, then you can blag a job at a local government school for 30,000baht a month. Let them sort your visa or go off the grid and fook the visa.

    Life too short.

    Get on it like a car bonnet..


    He could possibly upgrade himself slightly......




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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    have done and have stayed there up to and over a year by reporting every 90 days to Chang Wattana Road in Bangkok and taking a border run to another country. I might be wrong about the amphur although a Thai friend here does it every year.
    Sorry I have to come back. Why does a Thai have to do a 90 day report to their Amphur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy
    have done and have stayed there up to and over a year by reporting every 90 days to Chang Wattana Road in Bangkok and taking a border run to another country. I might be wrong about the amphur although a Thai friend here does it every year.
    Sorry I have to come back. Why does a Thai have to do a 90 day report to their Amphur?
    Yeah Prag , you 've got him by the gonards with that simple question

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    US citizen now, and that's what he said he does, along with two american friends he has. Sorry if I didn't get that one exactly right, but that's what he told me, and he goes back 4 times a year. Like I said, I'm here for advice, and will take all and sort out the bs from the helpful. And I'll probably use an attorney, so I'm sure they'll find me the easiest route that I can afford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredwiggy View Post
    US citizen now, and that's what he said he does, along with two american friends he has. Sorry if I didn't get that one exactly right, but that's what he told me, and he goes back 4 times a year. Like I said, I'm here for advice, and will take all and sort out the bs from the helpful.
    WALOB .

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    ^ You're listening to the wrong people. The Thai/American is lying. He's having a laugh at your expense. Nobody is really being negative on this forum. It may come over as negative to you but you should pay more attention to it than people you know and lawyers.

    he goes back 4 times a year.
    And still has to report each time?

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    Everyone has their thoughts and opinions, and a lot I've heard for the last two years have been sound advice, and a lot isn't. I listen to everything I hear, and decide what is helpful, nonsense or just plain hurtful. Then I'll choose the route that works best for me. Either way, everything will work out for me because I will make it work out. When he stays longer than the 60 days you're allowed,or another 30 if extended, he said he has to report every 90 days and if he stays longer, he goes across the border and renews his visa. He was talking about himself and his friends that go to Thailand a lot and stay longer than the tourist visa allows.

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