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    HYP up 20% today as well.


    #bladdymintingit

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    PoW mining is not just coins. The coins are a reward for doing the computation to validate transactions.

    If the system has masternodes it is not distributed and can be controlled

    Bitcoin itself can be controlled now if someone has over 51 percent of the hash power. Approx 500 million dollars worth of asics will do the job
    More and more of bitcoin hash power is being consolidated in the hands of fewer mining companies who then can decide.

    The combined pow and pos of DCR would need about 12 billion dollars of asics now to achieve the same though they then would need 60 percent of the stake tickets also. This is the reason the company 0 team moved away from bitcoin model and the reason I think they have a better model

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
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    the dls you describe don't have blocks
    which ones?
    ^ all the examples you have presented so far.
    well, i've posted many; though, how about smart contracts?

    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    The key here is that as well as something as basic as an indicator of value (as with Bitcoin), blockchains can be used to store any kind of digital information, including computer code.

    This code can be programmed to execute when two or more parties enter their keys – meaning that everyone agrees that a contract has been filled.

    It can also read from external data feeds – stock prices, weather reports, news headlines, or anything else that can be parsed by computer code – to create contracts which automatically “sign off” when stated conditions are filled. These are known as “smart contracts”.
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    https://www.cio.com/article/3194586/...nsactions.html

    Here are some of the most notable entities that have examined blockchain and are now moving to adopt it.
    https://www.cio.com/article/3194586/...nsactions.html

    Governments and commercial businesses are proving that blockchain is tamper-proof and scalable.



    • State of Arizona. Last month, the state passed a bill granting legal status to blockchain smart contracts. The bill states that “A record or contract that is secured through blockchain technology is considered to be in an electronic form and to be an electronic record.”


    • State of Nevada. Similarly, Nevada is creating a legal basis for blockchain and smart contracts. A Senate bill proposed two months ago says that no entity shall impose requirements inhibiting the use of blockchain and smart contracts.


    • State of Delaware. The state’s government has been evaluating blockchain smart contracts for settling stock transactions. Delaware’s blockchain trials are viewed as relevant to overhauling systems in Wall Street institutions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Think of it like this. A bc and its currency are entirely separate entities, but neither can exist in a viable form without the other. The securing of transactions on a bc requires a currency with value. the currency is what imposes costs on changing the contents of the block chain.
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Now what is “blockchain technology” you might ask? Ironically, there is no consensus on the definition:

    1. Minimalists will argue it is only Bitcoin
    2. Some people think it should include any DL with chained blocks
    3. Some experts think it should include any DL with some key features: chained blocks, immutability & consensus protocol
    so, longway: i take it you're a minimalist (regarding blockchain), right?


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    ^ oh fit Christ sake. I don't even know the discussion is about any more. I have made myself as clear as I can. For the record I align more with 3. Good luck on your future endeavors in the crypto world, as you are going to need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    the dls you describe don't have blocks.
    well, i've posted many; though, how about smart contracts?
    before you go, longway: why do you think (if you do) smart contracts don't use blockchain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    before you go, longway: why do you think (if you do) smart contracts don't use blockchain?
    I think I understand you=, assuming you are not trolling me, in which case well done.

    Let me make these points

    1. Bitcoin is not just a cryptocurrency, it is the name for its BC and currency, both are entirely separate, but require each other to exist in a viable useful form

    2. There are many blockchains and each their attendent currencies to power them.

    3. Transferring money is only the tip of the iceberg wen it comes to blockcain applications, so I do think smart contracts use blockchains

    4. Blockchains are the solution to operating a DL in a trustless permissionless environment.

    4. When I told you that BCs require a currency to operate, you brought up private DLs, these are not Bchains, they have a different design. They dont need a BC to function, in fact its pointless to have a system like that in a closed network.

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    A good month. 6,000 to almost 18,000


    Get on as it's about to continue its nice climb.

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    fair points, longway and agree on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Transferring money is only the tip of the iceberg wen it comes to blockcain applications, so I do think smart contracts use blockchains

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    You are loving this Luigi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
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    So, 31k invested and maybe a further 100k.
    Hmmm.
    You missed when I topped it up to 1m baht
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    You are loving this Luigi
    assuming that luigi isn't gambling with more than 3% of his net worth, he must be a millionaire (us$) already and is just having fun.

    RIP Bitcoin-roulette-winning-jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    assuming that luigi isn't gambling with more than 3% of his net worth
    Probably closer to 300%

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    Just traded my non-BTC portfolio to 23% LTC.

    DAS and ETH also feature strongly.

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    The problem is, when it comes time for everybody to cash in, there won't be enough cash in the World to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Every lady has a smartphone today, your can set them up with a Bitcoin wallet and send them some Bitcoin, ETH, LTC, whatever, in less than 15 minutes!
    actually Apple is developing a similar tech, sending cash with mobiles, and you don't need Bitcoin or even blockchain for that

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    ^ mactard

    Lick jobs ring piece every time you transfer satang

    You continue to demonstrate how clueless you are about this tech

    Total lack of comprehension

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    actually Apple is developing a similar tech, sending cash with mobiles, and you don't need Bitcoin or even blockchain for that
    Kenyans way ahead of Apple there, they use a system called MPESA, it developed out of people trading mobile tops ups and transferring them, they get charged a high % to transfer. Countries like this are crying out for good BC tech, it takes their money out of the immensely corrupt environments in which they are forced to operate without having to pay expensive charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    so, longway: i take it you're a minimalist (regarding blockchain), right?

    it doesn't really matter does it, it's all a scam at the end, and it has no fundamental value of any kind

    it's like arguing about the color of Tulips and why a certain color should be more valuable than another

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    ^ mactard

    Lick jobs ring piece every time you transfer satang

    You continue to demonstrate how clueless you are about this tech

    Total lack of comprehension
    hardly a mactard, dumbo

    and you clearly demonstrated you were a chav looking to strike it rich on a scam business where tech is an excuse for value

    total lack of common sense, but again you are a chav

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    couple of questions, one, any recomended brokers,, two,, can buy in pds/sterling, sell in bt, cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    The problem is, when it comes time for everybody to cash in, there won't be enough cash in the World to do so.
    shhh!!! please don't tell, you will spoil the dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway View Post
    Kenyans way ahead of Apple there, they use a system called MPESA, it developed out of people trading mobile tops ups and transferring them, they get charged a high % to transfer. Countries like this are crying out for good BC tech, it takes their money out of the immensely corrupt environments in which they are forced to operate without having to pay expensive charges.
    mobile operators can be greedy, but Apple is changing that

    you don't need BC to do all this shit, for cheap, and securely

    in Europe, we have SEPA, and soon instant SEPA, and it's all free. I can send money to anyone Europe for free, it takes less than 1 day and soon it will be instant.

    Thai banks have had instant cash transfer for over 20 years, and they surely didn't need BC for that

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    RIP Bitcoin-how-buy-bitcoin-funny-cryptocurrency-gold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    mobile operators can be greedy, but Apple is changing that

    you don't need BC to do all this shit, for cheap, and securely

    in Europe, we have SEPA, and soon instant SEPA, and it's all free. I can send money to anyone Europe for free, it takes less than 1 day and soon it will be instant.

    Thai banks have had instant cash transfer for over 20 years, and they surely didn't need BC for that
    and they gouge you for it, all part of the service. you think you are not paying the banks anything?

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