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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukan Kizmiaz View Post
    maybe the time is coming to buy a few
    just no

    unless you have some bags from when you were mining in 2014 , then those bags are what you will be buying - the amount of dodge in existence is rather large and the supply was designed to be infinite

    it is a meme coin for suckers


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    XRP up %40 today. Similar to Doge it's an organised 'pump & hold' group planning a group buy on Feb 1st. At 100k members it's not a small group but nothing like the 6 mill in Wall Street Bets. Also like Doge it's not trying to squeeze shorts of big money so apart from correcting some unethical 'protect the investors' SEC activities it's not really a principled stand against 'the man'.

    Expect it to end the same way as Doge.
    Expect some adventurous investors will make some coin out of it.
    Some people think it don't, but it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    it is a meme coin for suckers
    It got added by Flare networks defi. That gave it some legitimacy. Good timing by that team to jump on it just as the likes of Robin Hood and other investor apps 'for the working class' started banning trading of certain stock. The promise of a decentralised trading app that can't be controlled by the powers that be has suddenly become interesting.

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    I'm going to buy 3 to $5000 worth of Bitcoin on the next pullback. I'll screenshot it on this thread

    Then you'll know that Bitcoin is over. I'm always at the wrong place at the wrong time. Im not one of the chosen ones. Chances are , neither are you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I'll screenshot it on this thread
    no - first rule of crypto is not to tell anyone how much you own

    or really the first rule is to back up your personal wallet seed on paper

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    further to the question

    this is not just for backspit , but if other members decide to buy crypto now

    first you need to get your dollars/pesos to an exchange where you will have to do the KYC requirements - ID , selfie which is usually you holding a piece of paper with the exchange name , date and signature

    stick with the big exchanges , coinbase , binance , bitrex , kraken , litebit etc - dodgy exchanges like to fuck you up

    when you buy , instead of buying all in one hit and worrying if the price will drop after your purchase , buy a third first , wait a day and buy another third and then decide whether you will then purchase with the rest of your pesos

    the next step is to install a personal wallet on your computer - the most important part of this is to note down the pass phrase when you create the wallet - easiest is on paper - people lose their crypto all the time when their computer fails and they do not have the pass phrase / passwords and are unable to re create the wallet

    when you send from the exchange to your private wallet , do a couple of small test sends first to make sure you have go everything right with your addresses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I'm going to buy 3 to $5000 worth of Bitcoin on the next pullback. I'll screenshot it on this thread

    Then you'll know that Bitcoin is over. I'm always at the wrong place at the wrong time. Im not one of the chosen ones. Chances are , neither are you.
    Don't need a screenshot, if someone disbelieves it doesn't affect your holding, but what's your buy in price? $5k gets you around 0.13 btc, doesn't look like much but will give you a better % return than gold.

    Next question: why are you buying into what you described as a ponzi scheme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Next question: why are you buying into what you described as a ponzi scheme?
    backspit is a beta simp cuck or some such and that is what they do

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    further to the question

    this is not just for backspit , but if other members decide to buy crypto now

    first you need to get your dollars/pesos to an exchange where you will have to do the KYC requirements - ID , selfie which is usually you holding a piece of paper with the exchange name , date and signature

    stick with the big exchanges , coinbase , binance , bitrex , kraken , litebit etc - dodgy exchanges like to fuck you up

    when you buy , instead of buying all in one hit and worrying if the price will drop after your purchase , buy a third first , wait a day and buy another third and then decide whether you will then purchase with the rest of your pesos

    the next step is to install a personal wallet on your computer - the most important part of this is to note down the pass phrase when you create the wallet - easiest is on paper - people lose their crypto all the time when their computer fails and they do not have the pass phrase / passwords and are unable to re create the wallet

    when you send from the exchange to your private wallet , do a couple of small test sends first to make sure you have go everything right with your addresses
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    Convenience means risk. This applies throughout, and I'm not about to let you forget.

    Your hardware wallet holds the private keys allowing access and use of your wallet/address (for our purpose just one). Your passcode is a backup. Whoever owns the passcode owns the wallet and its contents, with or without the physical device, so keep it safe.

    There are many smart people out there looking to scam their way into your money, and these numbers increase each time btc hits a new high.

    If you're using a hardware wallet with passcode, keep these two items safe and distanced, because in case of fire or theft you could lose both. Convenience means risk. Keep the passcode on paper in a safe place, never on a computer or phone, not on any website or cloud or software, no pic that someone could harvest, be wary of emails or other form of personal or web contact that tries to trick you into revealing the passcode, don’t give anyone an opportunity to see it, makes sense not to let anyone know you even have it, and look dumb if it comes up in conversation. If you lose both passcode and device you have cocked up and lost your coins, period. If someone has just your passcode while you hold the device, you have cocked up and lost your coins, period.

    You could switch any combination of words when writing down your multi-word passcode; now if it's nicked the bad guy's still locked out. Downside of course is that bump on your head makes you forget what goes where, and now if your device is lost or fries it's bye bye bitcoin. Convenience means risk.

    Is it smart to distribute several copies of your passcode around your home, worried in case you have just the one copy and lose it? Convenience means risk. Several copies creates that many extra chances that an inquisitive guest or your friendly burglar might find one.

    If your hardware wallet is for storage, you don't need it, throw it away. Or turn it into a useless piece of junk that could save your life; delete its memory and leave on coffee table or shelf in plain view; now if your local burglar or home invader sees and nicks it, they might get an adrenalin rush and leave. The purpose of your passcode is to supplement the integrity of the device, so that if it malfunctions or is lost or destroyed you can restore your wallet with full access on another device. Convenience means risk. Now you have only one (passcode) form of access to your wallet instead of two (device and passcode).

    The Winklevoss twins, billionaires through early crypto adoption, have the passcodes to their many storage wallets split into 2 or more parts, each in a bank vault in different cities. Forget bank vaults unless you're a whale in which case you wouldn't be reading this, while splitting your passcode offers more security for obvious reasons, it is balanced by the higher risk of losing one part. Convenience means risk.
    Last edited by jabir; 05-02-2021 at 01:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    $5k gets you around 0.13 btc, doesn't look like much but will give you a better % return than gold.
    i get that bitcoin has your panties all wet...but the fact of the matter is that you don't know his buy in price or his time horizon....as well as the predicting the future aspect....how can you say it will give a better % return than gold?

    hint: you can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    i get that bitcoin has your panties all wet...but the fact of the matter is that you don't know his buy in price or his time horizon....as well as the predicting the future aspect....how can you say it will give a better % return than gold?

    hint: you can't.
    what's your buy in price? $5k gets you around 0.13 btc
    Yes you're right, slipped my mind this is TD, and for our slower thinkers and grammar nazis, I should have posted "$5k WILL get you around x.xx if it drops/rises, but if you buy right now at the current price $5k gets you around 0.13 btc, and Ray wants me to be clear that if the price doubles before you buy then you'll get double that."

    next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I'm going to buy 3 to $5000 worth of Bitcoin on the next pullback. I'll screenshot it on this thread

    Then you'll know that Bitcoin is over. I'm always at the wrong place at the wrong time. Im not one of the chosen ones. Chances are , neither are you.
    Why are you putting all your eggs in one basket?

    Why not buy $4k of 4 different shares with $1k held as cash to use to either average up or down?

    There are numerous good plays at any time, and if you invest correctly, you shouldn't lose.

    A few hours of basic research will point you in the right direction of companies you believe in and would want to invest in.
    Black diamonds? I shit 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    Why not buy $4k of 4 different shares with $1k held as cash
    20% of play money spread far and wide isn't a bad option. (As well as being fun.)

    As the DOGE jump last week showed.

    Something small can happen that makes one jump xxx% in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmond View Post
    20% of play money spread far and wide isn't a bad option. (As well as being fun.)

    As the DOGE jump last week showed.

    Something small can happen that makes one jump xxx% in a day.
    Not for me, I got burned by shitcoins early on and now staying with the A team, but the alt season seems to be picking up, healthy market there with tons of scope for fast and massive profit, from a quick double up to 100x if you pick the right one at the right time and let go when it peaks.

    But noobs are competing against insiders with intimate knowledge of the coins and the system, creators, programmers, traders, flippers, VIPs, early and privileged investors, and that's a lot of people sharing the loot left behind by the less experienced and unconnected.

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    Hey Ray, I was hoping to say by Jove you got it, but you didn't did you, overwhelmed by envy and self pity, that's who you are, rummaging in the trash for something to use to round off your bitter existence with a dig, when all you had to do was read that whopping great blunder I left, just for you.

    Coulda done wonders for your self esteem, a legitimate poke, a first, to comp for your sad life; but as usual you're too busy looking down to look up. Not too late, impress your fans by saying you spotted it right away but couldn't fit a response into your busy schedule.

    Meh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    overwhelmed by envy


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    German authorities can’t access $60 million of seized bitcoins, after fraudster refuses to give them password

    5 Feb, 2021 13:11

    "Prosecutors in Germany have embarrassingly found themselves unable to access $60 million of seized bitcoin, after a convicted fraudster refused to provide them with the password. The individual was sentenced and has served his time in prison but, despite the authorities demanding he hand over the account details, he has remained silent, preventing police from gaining access to the more than 1,700 bitcoins he’s believed to own. With bitcoin having surged in price in recent years, having hit a high of $42,000 in January, the value of his wallet is thought to be substantial.

    Police wanted to seize control of the individual’s wallet, after he was jailed for two years for having covertly installed software on other people’s computers, allowing him to create more bitcoin through a process known as ‘mining’.

    Bitcoins are a cryptocurrency that is stored in an electronic wallet and protected through an encrypted password. Unlike other password-protected accounts, users have only a limited number of recovery options for their login details before they are permanently locked out of their wallets, so they’re urged to retain a paper copy in a safe place.

    Acknowledging the awkward situation, Bavarian prosecutor Sebastian Murer explained that the authorities “asked him, but he didn’t say,” suggesting that “perhaps he doesn’t know.”. Despite being unable to repossess the criminal’s ill-gotten gains, prosecutors have ensured that the man will be unable to access them himself by blocking the account, leaving his bitcoins permanently stranded in an inaccessible wallet."

    German authorities can’t access $60 million of seized bitcoins, after fraudster refuses to give them password — RT World News
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Hmm, it's clearly illegal otherwise he wouldn't have been jailed, but I'm not sure how serious an offence it is to use the spare computing power of hacked phones to mine bitcoin, if the software does not otherwise damage the phone and victims do not tangibly lose out. Ok, it's serious enough for a jail sentence, that's good enough.

    It's this bit the prosecutors should be embarrassed to claim:

    Despite being unable to repossess the criminal’s ill-gotten gains, prosecutors have ensured that the man will be unable to access them himself by blocking the account, leaving his bitcoins permanently stranded in an inaccessible wallet.

    The wallet/account is not blocked; they cannot 'block' his wallet to prevent him from accessing it; if they could, btc would die tomorrow and our mate Ray would wank himself into the madhouse. Having done his time, best they could do to prevent him benefitting from the crime proceeds, is to make repeated attempts at the PIN/passcode until the limit is reached and the device resets thereby locking him out so that the muppets at HO could boast a victory in ignorance; even so, the courts would need to rule on the legality of such action.

    And then of course, so what if they 'block' his wallet by making it inaccessible? Does anyone believe someone savvy enough to infect phones with mining software, and to actually mine btc, would not know enough about wallets to keep their recovery passcode in a safe place? (see: post *8385)

    This guy has it easy, dealing with prosecutors that know the law but not how crypto works; bit pointless, but they seem happy, and he'll be chuckling all the way home.

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    I hope lulu is ok

    RIP Bitcoin-lulu-png
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    Last edited by baldrick; 07-02-2021 at 06:04 AM.

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    Why woudln't this get a bid ? The more ridiculous the better these days. I am serious. It has a more substantive prospectus than Doge coin. The main reason for fuckcoin was so that the founder could say "fucks will be given" on ICO day


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    Elon has been hitting the wacky backy yet again.

    Tesla announces a $1.5 billion buy of BTC and the whole market jumps. Dogecoin makes it into top ten just because Elon also tweets about it. Absolute madness. Nothing rational in this space.

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    Schiff (ponzi), Buffet (rat poison), and several other prominent and eloquent critics have been quiet lately.

    Pet vulture says 'possible' second chance to enter as it pauses to consolidate, next stop in the 50s, and the higher it goes the more institutional funds will accelerate, not just money that's already being shifted but new blood as cash rich CEOs and fund managers are pressured by investors demanding to know why they're still on the sidelines.

    Don't forget that throwaway line, that the Fed has infinite money. So what happens when later this year the consequences of manic debt, exhausted printing presses, and euphoria lifting markets to unrealistic and unsustainable levels begin to filter through? Probably won't be pretty, because the big knees generally jerk toward short term relief for long term pain, which is likely to result in more debt and more fiat with less buying power.

    Would be hysterical, if not the unfolding tragedy that many small people are going to be hurt, again.

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    I love Elon.

    50k by the end of the week.... day.... hour?

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    ^ how was samui ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    Elon has been hitting the wacky backy yet again.

    Tesla announces a $1.5 billion buy of BTC and the whole market jumps. Dogecoin makes it into top ten just because Elon also tweets about it. Absolute madness. Nothing rational in this space.
    Musk is setting himself up to be the first $ trillionaire. Not so much that he wants more money than anyone else, but it takes a lot of it to fulfil his many ambitious visions.

    His comments on DOGE are a fun poke at a joke coin, while his real interest is btc which he confirmed in his interview last week; he's a leader, and it should be no surprise that others are following.

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