Thread: Memorial Day Holiday

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

better to stick with the thread

Resist the war-mongers and military industrial complex parade.

Look forward to next years debate.......

Interesting article put out by Stars and Stripes:

US military and civilians are increasingly divided - U.S. - Stripes

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." —Winston Churchill



We remember…



We mourn for those lost…



And we mourn for those they’ve left behind…



As we reflect again on the the steep price of freedom.

That's some nice American Propaganda there! Gets my patriotic juices flowing just looking at those wonderfully framed shots.

I say we invade North Korea next. Why? Why not?

Ronald Maximus

Remarks at Memorial Day Ceremonies Honoring an Unknown Serviceman of the Vietnam Conflict - 5/28/84

Originally Posted by Stinky

Memorial Day, the perfect excuse have a few beers and kick back with like minded indoctrinated idiots who believe that dead soldiers died for their countries freedom and not in the pursuit of stealing another countries resources and installing a political regime more likely to do business with us on our terms.

Do you add ww1 and 2 into your post?

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Resist the war-mongers and military industrial complex parade.

"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to". (A Few Good Men)

I may agree with your position on wars and those who commit troops to them, but when it comes to the troops themselves we're on different planets.

Originally Posted by Stinky

Originally Posted by bowie

Are there really still people alive that believe this was an attack by Islamist fanatics, I thought the word had already gotten out already?
Ok I shouldn't be telling you this so I'll only tell you the once, Shhhh,,,, it was a false flag attack designed to create fear in the masses and get them to accept new draconian laws that infringe mahoosively on their God given freedoms and civil rights.
Yeah I know it looks far fetched at a glance but it's the truth! Just look at how many rights freedoms you've lost since this attack on America by, America? Bush? Israel? Saudi? Banks?
And what about WTC7? Come on now you guys ain't really that gullible are you?
Time to wake up and smell the "you're so fukt and you don't even know it" flavoured coffee.

Idiot!

Originally Posted by Stinky

Look I dont want to get too far into this right now coz I started drinking and I usually make dick of myself when I've been drinking, but on first glance a good deal of those are bs, I mean are you seriously go into to throw in stuff like the first bombing of the WTC.
I'm going back to my vodka.
But as a rather buff American senator once said "I'll be back!"

You don't need to drink to make a dick of yourself, seems you are a dick on a regular basis.

Be you Raving Liberal or Vast Right-Wing Conspirator, this time is not about you. Or about me.

It's About Them:

Flags-In: Memorial Day 2004 At Arlington National Cemetery

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

^ Based on what I have read it was the Russian's that defeated Hitler and The Third Reich.

There are a couple of brilliant documentaries on YouTube mate confirming my belief mate.

Do you think they could have defeated Hitler by themselves?

Americans Gave Their Lives To Defeat The Nazis. The Dutch Have Never Forgotten…



They haven’t forgotten. For 70 years, the Dutch have come to a verdant U.S. cemetery outside this small village to care for the graves of Americans killed in World War II.

On Sunday, they came again, bearing Memorial Day bouquets for men and women they never knew, but whose 8,300 headstones the people of the Netherlands have adopted as their own.

For the American relatives of the fallen, it was an outpouring of gratitude almost as stunning as the rows of white marble crosses and Jewish Stars of David at the Netherlands American Cemetery. Each grave has been adopted by a Dutch or, in some cases, Belgian or German family, as well as local schools, companies and military organizations. More than 100 people are on a waiting list to become caretakers.

At the cemetery’s annual commemoration, 6,000 people poured onto the 65-acre burial grounds just a few miles from the German border, including scores of descendants of American war dead who had traveled here from all over the United States. They were eager to pay tribute to parents or grandparents who had died to defeat the Nazis. But they also wanted to thank the Dutch families who had been tending the graves of their loved ones, often passing the responsibility from one generation to the next.

For Arthur Chotin, 70, who had come from Annapolis, Md., to finally meet the couple caring for his father’s resting place, the devotion of the Dutch was a source of awe.

“What would cause a nation recovering from losses and trauma of their own to adopt the sons and daughters of another nation?” asked Chotin, the only American descendant to speak on Sunday. “And what would keep that commitment alive for all of these years, when the memory of that war has begun to fade? It is a unique occurrence in the history of civilization."

Americans gave their lives to defeat the Nazis. The Dutch have never forgotten. - The Washington Post

Just more jingoistic chest-thumping we suppose?

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

What's funny about world war 2 historians is the emphasis is put on how many jews got killed, and never how many Russians got killed.

All killed by the Germans eh. At least the Russians had a chance to defend themselves.

Littlest ‘Marine’ Visits Resting Place Of His Dad



He’s wearing the full formal Dress Blue uniform of a Marine Corps sergeant, and he has medals for service in Iraq and Afghanistan pinned to his chest.

But Christian Jacobs is not a Marine. He’s just four years old, standing at the grave of his father, Sgt Christopher James Jacob, on the day when America remembers its fallen heroes.

Christian Jacobs and his mother, Brittany Jacobs, visited the grave of Sgt Christopher James Jacobs, who served one tour in Afghanistan and one in Iraq, in Arlington National Cemetery on Monday.

For Memorial Day Commemorations, they came bearing flowers, cards and photographs, and Christian had lain on the ground next to his father’s tombstone, at section 60 of the cemetery.

‘I hope for you to come back soon, daddy. And I love you and hope for you to be here. I know you will be here and I love you. And he is always watching over me and makes sure – he’s proud of me, daddy. And I love you daddy,’ Christian said."



Daily Mail:

Watched Obomba's speech from last year, and it was sickening to listen to so much shit about how the threat of WW1/2 on Americans lives, and the constant references to all the other wars and the threats to Americans, and how these countries have never had democratic systems in place.

What they got now in many places. ANARCHY, there worse off now than they were, due to the Alliances axis of evil.

May all your Vets be at peace, though hope your country rises up to the evils of your govt.

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

May all your Vets be at peace, though hope your country rises up to the evils of your govt.

Cheers for that HH

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

The thread is about Memorial Day. What's your problem with that?

Nothing at all, but then again I'm not the one trying to derail the thread by throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks now am I? I made a quiet effort to get it back on track by quoting one of bowie's earlier posts but it seems nothing will stop your mawkish desire to post cartoons and artfully staged photo-ops as you steamroll your way through.

The more pertinent question is what is YOUR problem with it? Have you run out of fridge magnets and yellow ribbons with which to proclaim your unyielding patriotism and support for the troops except when a black Democrat is CiC?

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

What's funny about world war 2 historians is the emphasis is put on how many jews got killed, and never how many Russians got killed.

All killed by the Germans eh. At least the Russians had a chance to defend themselves.

Erm, what about the Jews, Polish and others raped and killed by the Russians?
Oh, not in your textbooks?
What about the warcrimes committed by 'merkin troops?
Oh, none to be found in your selected sources either?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower

What's funny about world war 2 historians is the emphasis is put on how many jews got killed, and never how many Russians got killed.

All killed by the Germans eh. At least the Russians had a chance to defend themselves.

Erm, what about the Jews, Polish and others raped and killed by the Russians?
Oh, not in your textbooks?
What about the warcrimes committed by 'merkin troops?
Oh, none to be found in your selected sources either?

Naturally, confusing those who comprehend only one history - the type that is repeated over and again without any such curiosity [or alternatives] to explore real and true perspectives and interpretations.

We'll have none of this, Strolls.