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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    Fact is people don't hate Americans,its your Govt people don't like.
    I hate them too and I am an American. Boontard hates them only if they are not Republitards. Then he is a slobbering flag waving cultist like most of the morons.

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    Remembering the 129-man crew of the USS Thresher, on eternal patrol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    and Australia defeated the Empire of Japan
    not forgetting that the aussies gave booners a good flogging 60 years later

    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee
    Just asking if y'all stormed the beaches with us?
    we never left

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    Boon did you storm the beaches.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Everyone's aware of the coast watchers.

    Just asking if y'all stormed the beaches with us?

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    I would prefer an American day that highlights the fact,that there is many thousands of American armed forces personnel that are homeless and no fucker gives a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    I would prefer an American day that highlights the fact,that there is many thousands of American armed forces personnel that are homeless and no fucker gives a shit.
    & you're full of shit...
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    Ahhhh....

    The fragrance of romanticizing militarism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Ahhhh....

    The fragrance of romanticizing militarism.
    Heh...there's fuck-all romanticizing going on here, bubba...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boon Mee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    I would prefer an American day that highlights the fact,that there is many thousands of American armed forces personnel that are homeless and no fucker gives a shit.
    & you're full of shit...
    BACKGROUND

    Far too many veterans are homeless in America—between 130,000 and 200,000 on any given night—representing between one fourth and one-fifth of all homeless people. Three times that many veterans are struggling with excessive rent burdens and thus at increased risk of homelessness.
    Further, there is concern about the future. Women veterans and those with disabilities including post traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury are more likely to become homeless, and a higher percentage of veterans returning from the current conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq have these characteristics.

    The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs estimates that 131,000 veterans are homeless on any given night [1]. And approximately twice that many experience homelessness over the course of a year. Conservatively, one out of every three homeless men who is sleeping in a doorway, alley or box in our cities and rural communities has put on a uniform and served this country.

    Approximately 40% of homeless men are veterans, although veterans comprise only 34% of the general adult male population. The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans estimates that on any given night, 200,000 veterans are homeless, and 400,000 veterans will experience homelessness during the course of a year (National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, 2006). 97% of those homeless veterans will be male (Department of Veterans Affairs, 2008).

    DEMOGRAPHICS

    The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) says the nation's homeless veterans are mostly males (four percent are females). The vast majority is single, most come from poor, disadvantaged communities, 45 percent suffer from mental illness, and half have substance abuse problems. America’s homeless veterans have served in World War II, Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, Grenada, Panama, Lebanon, Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan), Operation Iraqi Freedom, or the military’s anti-drug cultivation efforts in South America. 47 per cent of homeless veterans served during the Vietnam Era. More than 67 per cent served our country for at least three years and 33 per cent were stationed in a war zone.

    Here are some statistics concerning the veterans homeless [2]:

    23% of homeless population are veterans
    33% of male homeless population are veterans
    47% Vietnam Era
    17% post-Vietnam
    15% pre-Vietnam
    67% served three or more years
    33% stationed in war zone
    25% have used VA Homeless Services
    85% completed high school/GED, compared to 56% of non-veterans
    89% received Honorable Discharge
    79% reside in central cities
    16% reside in suburban areas
    5% reside in rural areas
    76% experience alcohol, drug, or mental health problems
    46% white males compared to 34% non-veterans
    46% age 45 or older compared to 20% non-veterans

    Female homeless veterans represent an estimated 3% of homeless veterans. They are more likely than male homeless veterans to be married and to suffer serious psychiatric illness, but less likely to be employed and to suffer from addiction disorders. Comparisons of homeless female veterans and other homeless women have found no differences in rates of mental illness or addictions.

    PROGRAMS AND POLICY ISSUES [3]

    While most housing help available to veterans focuses on homeownership, there have been Federal investments in programs for homeless veterans. The Department of Veterans’ Affairs (VA) funds temporary housing for homeless veterans including:
    • shelter and two-year transitional housing funded through the Grant and Per Diem Program,
    • long-term care through the Domiciliary Care for Homeless Veterans Program, and
    • skills programs such as the Compensated Work Therapy/Veterans Industries Program.

    These programs do not meet existing need. For example, Grant and Per Diem only funds 8,000 beds.
    In addition, the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) works with VA to operate the HUD-VA Supportive Housing (HUD-VASH) program. HUD-VASH connects HUD Housing Choice Vouchers with VA case management and services. This is HUD’s only program targeted directly to veterans. HUDVASH, a long standing and rigorously tested program, has been under-resourced in past years, but the recent addition of 10,000 vouchers a year for two years has been a crucial step forward. The Administration did not request additional vouchers for 2010. However, the program is popular in Congress, and there is a strong possibility of additional vouchers this year.

    VA's Homeless Providers Grant and Per Diem Program -

    The Grant and Per Diem program is offered annually (as funding permits) by the VA to fund community-based agencies (up to 65% of a given project) providing transitional housing or service centers for homeless veterans.

    While most housing help available to veterans focuses on homeownership, there have been Federal investments in programs for homeless veterans. The Department of Veterans’ Affairs (VA) funds temporary housing for homeless veterans including:
    • Shelter and two-year transitional housing funded through the grant and per Diem
    Program,
    • Long-term care through the Domiciliary Care for Homeless Veterans Program, and
    • Skills programs such as the Compensated Work Therapy/Veterans Industries Program.

    These programs do not meet existing need. For example, Grant and Per Diem only funds
    8,000 beds.

    In addition, the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) works with VA to
    operate the HUD-VA Supportive Housing (HUD-VASH) program. HUD-VASH connects HUD Housing Choice Vouchers with VA case management and services. This is HUD’s only 34 Vital Mission: Ending Homelessness Among Veterans. National Alliance to End Homelessness. 2007.
    program targeted directly to veterans. HUDVASH, a long standing and rigorously tested
    program, has been under-resourced in past years, but the recent addition of 10,000 vouchers a year for two years has been a crucial step forward. The Administration did not request additional vouchers for 2010. However, the program is popular in Congress, and there is a strong possibility of additional vouchers this year.

    In VA's Compensated Work Therapy/Transitional Residence (CWT/TR) Program, disadvantaged, at-risk, and homeless veterans live in supervised group homes while working for pay in VA's Compensated Work Therapy Program (also known as Veterans Industries). Veterans in the CWT/TR program work about 33 hours per week, with approximate earnings of $732 per month, and pay an average of $186 per month toward maintenance and up-keep of the residence. The average length of stay is about 174 days. VA contracts with private industry and the public sector for work done by these veterans, who learn new job skills, relearn successful work habits, and regain a sense of self-esteem and self-worth.

    Supported Housing -

    In 2008, according to the annual homeless assessment report to Congress, 3% of the shelter’s beds were reserved for the veterans.
    Like the HUD-VASH program, staff in VA's Supported Housing Program provides ongoing case management services to homeless veterans. Emphasis is placed on helping veterans find permanent housing and providing clinical support needed to keep veterans in permanent housing. Staff in these programs operate without benefit of the specially dedicated Section 8 housing vouchers available in the HUD-VASH program but are often successful in locating transitional or permanent housing through local means, especially by collaborating with Veterans Service Organizations.

    In addition, the VA extends loans, funds Veterans Benefits Counselors, and operates drop-in centers where veterans can clean up and receive therapeutic treatment during the day.

    The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans estimates that the VA serves about 25% of veterans in need – a figure that would leave approximately 300,000 veterans each year to seek assistance from local government agencies and voluntary organizations.

    In general, the needs of homeless veterans do not differ from those of other homeless people. The National Coalition for Homeless Veterans suggests the most effective programs are “community-based, nonprofit, "veterans helping veterans" groups” (NCHV “Background and Statistics”). However there is some evidence that programs which recognize and acknowledge veteran experience may be more successful in helping homeless veterans transition into stable housing. Until serious efforts are made to address the underlying causes of homelessness, including inadequate wages, lack of affordable housing, and lack of accessible, affordable health care, the tragedy of homelessness among both veterans and non-veterans will continue to plague American communities.

    REFERENCES AND RESOURCES

    Alker, Joan. Heroes Today, Homeless Tomorrow? Homelessness Among Veterans in the United States, 1991. National Coalition for the Homeless, 2201 P St. NW, Washington, DC 20037; 202/462-4822.
    National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, Providing reasonable estimates of Homeless Veterans in America On Any Given Night in May, 1994, 1994. Available, free, from the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, 333-1/2 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Washington, DC 20003-1148. Phone: 800-838-4357.
    National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, 333-1/2 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Washington, DC 20003-1148. Phone: 800-838-4357; Fax: 888-233-8582; Email: nchv@nchv.org
    HUDVET. Established by HUD's Office of Community Planning and Development (CPD) in consultation with national veteran service organizations, HUDVET is a Veteran Resource Center designed to provide veterans and their family members with information on HUD's community-based programs and services. HUDVET may be reached at 1-800-998-9999 (TDD 1-800-483-2209).
    National conference on ending homelessness, policy Guide, 2009:
    http://www.signup4.net/Upload/NATI12...cy%20Guide.pdf

    National Coalition for homeless veterans: http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm

    National Coalition for homeless veterans: http://www.nchv.org/background.cfm

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    Funny on the ANZAC days there is do not disrespect.

    I will remember to piss on thier parade next year. Fuck you you classless assholes.

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    BM just a fuk I didn't realise my own country shafts the vets will do.

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    ^ Scum like you do not know how to shut your big traps. You overstep and run you mouth. I would cave your fucking head in if you said that shit to my face.

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    This thread is a disgrace. You do not dishonour the fallen. My brothers.

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    So I take it you don't support your Vets.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman123
    I am surprised you can read at all.
    Retards like you find amazement in the smallest things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    So I take it you don't support your Vets.?
    What the fuck are you talking about you shitbird troll? You are a lowlife. How do you feel to be a subhuman dungeon dweller?

    Everyday you wake up to shit. You have nothing. Empty scum

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Funny on the ANZAC days there is do not disrespect.

    I will remember to piss on thier parade next year. Fuck you you classless assholes.
    Being a decent anarchist as you are, you probably wouldn't want to be extending too much of a defensive patriotic stand, would ya?


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    Snub get your head around this, the people who died for your country are dead, the homeless vets are alive, and treated like shit.

    Many vets have psychological problems caused through war, and should be taken care of.

    No different in my own country.

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    ^^ Wow the first clear sentence you have written in months. This is not the thread for debate.

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    oh ok you set the rules now, Snub grow a set of balls and see the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Funny on the ANZAC days there is do not disrespect.

    I will remember to piss on thier parade next year. Fuck you you classless assholes.
    Being a decent anarchist as you are, you probably wouldn't want to be extending too much of a defensive patriotic stand, would ya?

    being a clueless poster here romaticizing dead vets - fuk off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Snub get your head around this, the people who died for your country are dead, the homeless vets are alive, and treated like shit.

    Many vets have psychological problems caused through war, and should be taken care of.

    No different in my own country.
    Historically returning veterans from a wide range of countries and countless conflicts have been abandoned by the countries for which they fought. America after WW2 being a possible partial exception. Vietnam veterans were treated with disdain, and the Soviet veterans of Afghanistan fared no better. Throughout the ages, when the shooting stopped, wounded veterans have been tossed on the trash heap.

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    ^Snub And thats from a vet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    I would prefer an American day that highlights the fact,that there is many thousands of American armed forces personnel that are homeless and no fucker gives a shit.
    So veterans should be treated differently? Hate to say this HH, but veterans are given preference for jobs in just about every corner of the US. They are given free healthcare through the many Veterans Hospitals throughout the US. Colleges accept the GI bill for upper education. Should I go on?

    The question should be asked why is anyone homeless, not why are veterans homeless. Do all other countries have similar benefits for veterans, I wonder?


    .....and read this for more.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans%27_benefits
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    Take it then you know and have read about the Bonus Army.

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