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    The renovation of the Palace of westminster

    The Palace of Westminster is due to be renovated or possibly moved with work possibly starting in 2020.

    MP's are supposed to submit there suggestions by spring 2016.

    What do you think would be the best for the UK in general, for the building to be renovated or moved to a different part of the UK.?

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    The "renovation of Westminster will be the catalyst for the final death throes of Great Britain, it will never open again with anything other than symbolic status, during this period the integration/assimilation of Great Britain into the EU will be fully completed, the Magna carte will be fully and unlawfully dissolved and Great Britain will cease to be a sovereign nation.

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    Whilst interesting that wasn't the question.

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    In that case and considering the consequences of the "renovation" I'd say it should stay exactly where it is, it should have a huge coach car park and tour guide station/ reception for the tourist who wish to see where Great Britain used to be governed from.
    A tea room and a Cornish pastie station would be a good earner.

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    The supposed cost is in the region of 3 Billion, would it be better if it was moved to a different part of the UK.?

    Which is more central and could have a benefit to another city in the UK.

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    It should most likely have minarets, and loudspeakers calling the faithful to prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    It should most likely have minarets, and loudspeakers calling the faithful to prayer.
    says it all. any one for ukip.

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    Definitely not to be moved. If Parliament relocates, so what?
    Give MP's a choice of Sunderland, Coventry or (preferred choice), the Scilly Isles.
    They are housed in the bluddy Palace of Westminster, they don't own it.

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    prayer rooms, no bars and no bacon and bogs not facing mecca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    What do you think would be the best for the UK in general,
    Let Guy Fawkes' descendents finish the job.

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    Leave it as it is. Or turn it into a home of multiple occupancy and let the MPs do their work on the internet: Skype, email, etc.

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    I don't care what they do but make the sponging bastards pay for their own drinks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    It should most likely have minarets, and loudspeakers calling the faithful to prayer.
    Brought that on themselves.
    History cycling around.

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    it should have a massage house stocked with bare breasted beauties from the far flung corners of pommylands faded empire

    and a KFC and 7/11

    and a faux irish pub

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    Parliament restoration plan could cost up to 5.7bn

    Major restoration of the Houses of Parliament without moving MPs and peers out would cost 5.7bn and take 32 years, a report says.
    If MP and peers were moved out for six years, the cost would drop to 3.5bn, an independent report has said.
    The 150-year-old Grade I listed building is partly sinking, contains asbestos and has outdated cabling.
    A 2012 report warned the building could suffer "major, irreversible damage" without significant restoration work.
    The Commons and Lords will have to vote in the next few years on what to do.
    Follow reaction to the report in Politics Live
    The 3.5bn option would include some new features, such as a lift up the Elizabeth Tower, which with its famous clock and bell is popularly known as Big Ben, a media centre for TV interviews and "increased breakout, formal and informal meeting areas" for those who work in the Palace of Westminster.

    For a slightly higher spend of an estimated 3.9bn, the full move-out of MPs and peers would also enable a new visitor centre, including exhibition, education and conference facilities.
    The Independent Options Appraisal report also has two halfway-house options, which would see a partial vacation of Parliament - with the Commons going first, followed by the Lords.
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    Repair work is regularly carried out at the building
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    Parts of the stone facade on Westminster Hall's exterior are crumbling
    That would cover a total time period of between nine and 14 years, but would most likely last 11 years.
    Under that proposal, basic repairs - such as improving fire safety, removing asbestos and restoring damaged stonework - would cost an estimated 3.9bn.
    A higher-spec version of the partial move-out, with some of the same extras as a full move-out, would cost an estimated 4.4bn.
    'Disturbance'
    The report's summary says that it does not seek to advise Parliamentary authorities which option to choose, but concludes "a full move out is described as providing the best opportunity to mitigate risks, but the report recognises this would create logistical challenges".
    If MPs and peers choose not to move out at all, the work is projected to last between 25 and 40 years, although it is suggested 32 years would be the most likely duration.

    Some Birmingham MPs say the city's library should be used
    Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre: Westminster venue mooted as the likely front runner. Only two minutes' walk from Big Ben.
    Olympic Park media centre: There is 1.2m sq ft of commercial space in the Olympic Park in Stratford, East London.
    Birmingham Library: The preferred solution of some West Midlands MPs, the award-winning library was voted Britain's favourite new building for 2014 in a BBC online poll.
    Manchester Town Hall: Already used as a double for Parliament in films, the grade one-listed building certainly looks the part.
    Where could MPs be re-homed?

    The report warns that under such an option "users of the palace would have to tolerate high levels of disruption and disturbance over a long period".
    Under all scenarios work would be unlikely to start before 2020.
    Ideas for a new temporary home for MPs and peers include the Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre or the Methodist Central Hall, both a few hundred metres from the Palace of Westminster on the other side of Parliament square.
    But some MPs have been calling for a bolder move.
    Labour's Frank Field said relocating Parliament to the North of England would "change the face of Britain as we know it".
    'Leaning tower'
    Another Labour MP, Graham Stringer went further, saying MPs should move permanently to another part of the country to make Britain a less centralised country.
    But Conservative MP Sir Alan Duncan said that was a "ridiculous and impractical idea".
    Michael Cockerell, who was given unprecedented access to the Palace of Westminster to film a recent BBC documentary series, said the building was infested with rats and mice and in an advanced state of disrepair, with its foundations in danger of sinking into the Thames.
    "Big Ben is becoming slightly like the leaning tower of Pisa," he told BBC Radio 4's the World at One.
    Restoration programme director Richard Ware said: "It is clear from this report that Parliament is faced with some difficult choices. The Palace of Westminster is a building of huge national and international importance and we face a massive challenge in securing its future.
    "Parliament will now consider the recommendations of the Independent Options Appraisal and will do everything possible to secure value for money and ensure transparency throughout the process."

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    Knock it down and start again somewhere else - somewhere cheaper and with better facilities and a tenth of the price.

    Even better, sell it to developers and use the proceeds to build something better somewhere else. A better use of taxpayers' money.

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    get Thai builders in they could do it for 3 mil baht

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    There's places already built that could be used,though no doubt there'll go down the line of spending the money on refurb as its the English thing to do, and that 5.7 billion will turn out to be 20+ billion.


    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Knock it down and start again somewhere else - somewhere cheaper and with better facilities and a tenth of the price.

    Even better, sell it to developers and use the proceeds to build something better somewhere else. A better use of taxpayers' money.

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    Convert it to affordable housing for the poor and let the MPs work out of portacabins, blue thunder boxes outside of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Knock it down and start again somewhere else - somewhere cheaper and with better facilities and a tenth of the price. Even better, sell it to developers and use the proceeds to build something better somewhere else. A better use of taxpayers' money.
    The only sensible solution proposed on here.
    Just listening to BBC R4 and one of the bliokes who wrote the paper said the cheapest option woukd take at least 6 years and cost at least 7 billion. Anyone remember the costs spiral for the channel tunnel.

    Build new or convert an empty building currently owned by the government. Plenty of those around.

    Typical major recent build costs.
    New LTA centre 29m
    St Georges Park 105m
    Scottish Parliament 414m
    Welsh Assembly 69m

    Sell Westminster as prime real estate and build new in the geographical centre of England because that is all that will be left of the UK Government by the time it's finished.

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    If all 4 countries end up independant at some future date, then they would regret.
    Plenty of places to set up home for a few years and let Bob get on with the repairs.

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    Move it to Milton Keynes.
    A vibrant and edgy place

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    ^ ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower
    The supposed cost is in the region of 3 Billion, would it be better if it 3 Billion was spent on such things like hospitals and healthcare ?
    Corrected that for you


    Those useless lying thieving scumbags can make those stupid noises and claim they're expenses from a set of portacabins .

    I thought this Country was bankrupt ? and a quarter way through an austerity program .

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