Benefit Britain

[Dragonfly94]

To think the naive brigade on here often bleat that asylum seekers cannot claim benefits in the UK. The truth is they do not have to be asylum seekers (who do so with ease) but just come here on a day trip! Why not save them the trouble and just hand the cash out while they are at home, oh they do that's called foreign aid

Hundreds of Bangladeshis fly into Britain for ONE DAY to claim housing benefit | Daily Mail Online


Hundreds of Bangladeshis fly into Britain for ONE DAY to claim housing benefit in massive fraud racket which has cost UK taxpayer millions

[Horatio Hornblower]

And 13 people arrested

There used to be a great scam from the north of England, called the London dole run, they used to go down to London on the midnight train, claim dole and housing benefit and then trot back to the north believe they did well from it.

[Horatio Hornblower]

Australia used to have a cracker before computers, they used to go from state to state and claim, one big long holiday.

[Begbie]

The Daily Slime isn't a reputable link. Even the Thais are blocking this hate site.

[jamescollister]

Can't read the link, daily mail is blocked here and I'm not smart enough to bypass it.
Like Australia, lived and worked in the UK. paid my taxes, but will never see a penny/cent of a government pension.

[Horatio Hornblower]

James its not worth reading just the same old crap dragon posts from all the tabloids he thinks are for intelligent readers.

[Stinky]

The Daily Mail stiring up hatred and bigotry in the sheeple again to distract them from noticing that they are being fukt over far worse by the banks and the Tory scum government. How predictable of them.

[jamescollister]

What ever the article says, pisses me off, worked and paid taxes all my life, only to find they changed the rules.
Going to get a very small private pension from the UK in 2 years, told the wife, when I die burn me and tell no one.
May live on paper to 100 years, could get the money back, but not much good to me.

Just hate the fact I/we were lied to for 40 years, your taxes will pay for a reasonable retirement.

[stroller]

To think the naive brigade on here often bleat that asylum seekers cannot claim benefits in the UK. The truth is they do not have to be asylum seekers (who do so with ease) but just come here on a day trip! Why not save them the trouble and just hand the cash out while they are at home, oh they do that's called foreign aid

Hundreds of Bangladeshis fly into Britain for ONE DAY to claim housing benefit | Daily Mail Online


Hundreds of Bangladeshis fly into Britain for ONE DAY to claim housing benefit in massive fraud racket which has cost UK taxpayer millions

What's that got to do with asylum seekers, and why would you suggest to hand taxpayers' money to fraudsters abroad?

You're a very confused fella!

[Horatio Hornblower]

James I lived abroad for many years, and went back to take care of my terminally ill father, he had a carer, the DHSS told me i was not allowed to live in my fathers house though it was mortgage free, we sorted that out.

Then i had to apply to be his carer and was told i was a economic migrant, and was told I couldn't become his carer, I couldn't claim benefits, I took it to the tribunal and the citizens advice bureau was telling me I was wasting my time,I wouldn't win.

I was in the tribunal about 5 mins and the panel were astonished at the DHSS claim I wasn't a citizen of the UK.

I got my claim and father died a few weeks later, I left the UK as quick as possible.

What ever the article says, pisses me off, worked and paid taxes all my life, only to find they changed the rules.
Going to get a very small private pension from the UK in 2 years, told the wife, when I die burn me and tell no one.
May live on paper to 100 years, could get the money back, but not much good to me.

Just hate the fact I/we were lied to for 40 years, your taxes will pay for a reasonable retirement.

[harrybarracuda]

The Scousers under Derek "The Champagne Socialist" Hatton used to lift the paving stones then take a run up and crack themselves so they could sue the council.

Never went to court and they were quids in. Easy (other peoples) money.

[Dapper]

The Daily Slime isn't a reputable link. Even the Thais are blocking this hate site.

Spot on brother - just a hate site.

[Horatio Hornblower]

Happened all over the UK harry, jeez that box you have gets bigger.

The Scousers under Derek "The Champagne Socialist" Hatton used to lift the paving stones then take a run up and crack themselves so they could sue the council.

Never went to court and they were quids in. Easy (other peoples) money.

[stroller]

And 13 people arrested

There used to be a great scam from the north of England, called the London dole run, they used to go down to London on the midnight train, claim dole and housing benefit and then trot back to the north believe they did well from it.

There also used to be the Leeds-Manchester-Sheffield run. Sometimes it got found out, with 30 blokes supposedly living in a single room.

Benefit fraud wasn't invented by pesky foreigners.

[Horatio Hornblower]

Pity the idiots on the forum not understand that,or maybe they do and choose to ignore the fact.

[Troy]

Too boring even for banal banter....

[Seekingasylum]

What ever the article says, pisses me off, worked and paid taxes all my life, only to find they changed the rules.
Going to get a very small private pension from the UK in 2 years, told the wife, when I die burn me and tell no one.
May live on paper to 100 years, could get the money back, but not much good to me.

Just hate the fact I/we were lied to for 40 years, your taxes will pay for a reasonable retirement.

Are you saying you paid NI contributions in the UK and you will not receive a state pension when you reach qualifying age? Why is that?

[cyrille]

Pity the idiots on the forum not understand that,or maybe they do and choose to ignore the fact.

It's just that links to news from somewhere other than a pathetic comic aimed at simpletons tend to make the discussion a bit more worthwhile.

[Horatio Hornblower]

Ayslum you have to keep on paying your NI contributions or the pension is set at the amount of contributions you have paid.

Same with self employed they pay less,if you want to have a full pension paid you have to pay into the system, though saying that self employed will be a thing of the past soon,they want all to be PLC.

[panama hat]

Pity the idiots on the forum not understand that,or maybe they do and choose to ignore the fact.

. . . soon the 'M' issue will be inserted . . . and piwanoi will join posting his idiotic and hateful youtube Condell clips . . . scream 'coons' while xanax/Dragonfly will link a report on ISIS executions and call everyone a sympathiser who doesn't immediately agree that all Muslims are killers

Same old, same old

[Lantern]

I paid tax in the UK from age 16 up to age 29, at which point I left for Australia. At the time you had to have worked for 11 years to qualify for a part pension.
They have now moved the goalposts and I do not now qualify.

I have planned for years now to take my Australian pension over to Thailand, when I become eligible, but that's a few years away yet. I understand that by then the Australian G'ment will have changed the rules so you can only go overseas for 6 weeks at a time

[taxexile]

Ayslum you have to keep on paying your NI contributions or the pension is set at the amount of contributions you have paid.

which is exactly as it should be.

I lived abroad for many years, and went back to take care of my terminally ill father, he had a carer, the DHSS told me i was not allowed to live in my fathers house though it was mortgage free, we sorted that out.

Then i had to apply to be his carer and was told i was a economic migrant, and was told I couldn't become his carer, I couldn't claim benefits, I took it to the tribunal and the citizens advice bureau was telling me I was wasting my time,I wouldn't win.

I was in the tribunal about 5 mins and the panel were astonished at the DHSS claim I wasn't a citizen of the UK.

I got my claim and father died a few weeks later, I left the UK as quick as possible.

why should you be entitled to benefits if you have lived abroad for many years. the dhss are there for your father not you.


last year i returned to the uk for a few months to manage the care of an elderly relative with alzheimers. i lived in her apartment, there was no problem with that arrangement.

the dhss paid a generous carers allowance that nearly covered the costs of a privately employed full time carer.

we had regular weekly visits from our nhs gp, the apartment was fitted out with disabled aids in the bathroom and a hospital bed in the bedroom plus a very expensive laser beam radar thingy that bleeped any time she attempted to get out of bed.

the doctor or nurse ordered medication and it was delivered by the pharmacy the same day.

night nurses took over from the private carer so the carer could rest.

when her condition deteriorated, the end of life team took over and provided the kindest full time at home care imaginable until her final days when she was transferred to a hospice.

one day there were 2 doctors and 2 end of life nurses at the apartment to discuss with us the families wishes for end of life care.

in total she received varying levels of care for over 2 years.

none of this cost one penny.

after reading all the horror stories about the nhs i was astounded at just how amazing, how well organized and how complete it all was.

one has to know ones way around the system and not be too aggressive when requesting (not demanding) entitlements.

why you should have had such a hard time i dont know, but my experience and the experience of others that i encountered in the same position was very very different.

the national health service rocks. and you cant judge it by what you read in the daily mail when they cover isolated shock horror incidents.

[Dragonfly94]

I think the problem with the NHS is that it's patchy, can be great as is Tax's case or pretty awful if you are left dying on a trolley in A&E. I hope it has improved since my mum died 21 years back. Then the only help we got was visits from nurses who spent more time filling in forms and who were not allowed to give medication, waste of time.

[taxexile]

the nurses were great, they had a lot of control over treatment and didnt always have to refer back to the gp for confirmation or authorisation. and yes, it probably can be very patchy, a lot will depend on the hospital management in place.

my experience was in a large northern city where one would expect shortages and inefficiencies to be commonplace, but my experience of the nhs was eye opening.

whilst i was in the uk i needed to have a gastroscopy (camera in the stomach), i have a problem with gastric reflux, from the first gp visit to the actual procedure was only 3 weeks and i had a choice of hospitals. the whole experience was every bit as good as when i had this procedure at bumrungrad a few years ago. if anything it was better, because the nurses were friendly and engaging and not as drone like and detached as thai nurses tend to be, and the doctor took time to explain and go over every aspect of the procedure and the results with me before and after.

..... and best of all, there is none of this being sent to the cashier afterwards. free healthcare should be a human right in any civilised society.

this was my first interaction with the nhs in over 10 years and based on what i have read in the newspapers i was expecting all kinds of hassles, aggressive nurses, dirty conditions, long long waits and doctors that couldnt speak english, whereas things couldnt have been more professional, respectful and efficient.

[Seekingasylum]

Tax, it isn't free. There's a reason why our state pension allowance is the least in the developed world and that is attributed to the fact that the NHS costs the tax payer over £120 billions a year, and rising.

It is a behemoth of an institution and should have been dismantled years ago. A&E, minor complaints and procedures, GP care and geriatric care should be privatised and underwritten by insurance. Life threatening diseases, cancers, organ failures and disease should remain within a publicly funded scheme.

As it is, it is grossly inefficient, selective to a degree bordering on incoherence,arbitrary in its decision making inflicted by unqualified bureaucrats and negligent to,the point that it kills 20,000 patients.