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    Altercations?

    Just for laughs: Altercations?
    Last time I sort of won in an altercation was with a chronic class bully when I was 12yo. After showers this a-hole started taunting me…musta been the cold steak and kidney pie mum had given me for lunch but this guy being 6 inches taller received two jabs from my little fists..One broke his nose t’other to his throat shut him down.

    Don’t remember who he was or any taunting thereafter. Most of my mates were a lot tougher than me, had my fifteen minutes of fame though.

    Since then a few odd bar fights etc with SA blacks and Canadian FB Indians. Lost ‘em all or ran away ....lol.

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    win some , lose some. c'est la vie.

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    Including wannabe internet tough guys??

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    Never lost a fight,.

    Smashed each other up equally many times but never got off worse.

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    My old man always said never let anyone hit you first.

    Whether you have to hit them first or leg it.

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    Obviously my vain attempt to start an innocuous humorous thread has failed...555
    Thanks to all contributors however...

    In any event would just like to add an anecdote:

    I had a crew of telecom installers in Canada:
    One of the best mates I ever had (now deceased ..hemophiliac who received AIDS tainted blood).
    Anyways he was 135ibs soaking wet...many a time (actually most of the time)we all got drunk in remote freezing towns in northern Canada.
    My mate, in a state of inebriation, would challenge frickin big Indians and the biggest loggers and miners. My crew included a tough little oriental plus an Arab ex PLO fighter. These guys would take control and/or dispose of any individuals that threatened my mate or our crew...my mate was sort of our mascot ....lol
    Ah! ".....those were the days my friend....."

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    Physical altercations, you mean?

    Anyone can throw a punch, but in my view, it takes a true man to be able to throw an original thought and not step back when he gets the shite beat out of him... all considerations of timing, politeness, professionalism, etc. taken, of course.

    I hate fighting. Truly... I do. I fear it. It scares the shit out of me.

    I have encountered many an asshole, twat, knob head, etc, and moreover I have had my fair share of being just those things as well. I can and have been a proper twat at times.... but my style is as I stated. I hate fighting. It is much more of a challenge to be able to utter something original to get the antagonist to step back and consider for a moment the ramifications of his next move...

    Your OP is a thought-provoking one, indeed. Nice one!

    Had a physical altercation with a tattoo-terry type in Cambodia. We were both so drunk that we both fell on the ground out on the street. Hours later, and many beers later, we were both mates. It all came down to culture... my behavior and expectations and his.

    Life can be confusing at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas View Post
    Obviously my vain attempt to start an innocuous humorous thread has failed...555
    Thanks to all contributors however...

    In any event would just like to add an anecdote:

    I had a crew of telecom installers in Canada:
    One of the best mates I ever had (now deceased ..hemophiliac who received AIDS tainted blood).
    Anyways he was 135ibs soaking wet...many a time (actually most of the time)we all got drunk in remote freezing towns in northern Canada.
    My mate, in a state of inebriation, would challenge frickin big Indians and the biggest loggers and miners. My crew included a tough little oriental plus an Arab ex PLO fighter. These guys would take control and/or dispose of any individuals that threatened my mate or our crew...my mate was sort of our mascot ....lol
    Ah! ".....those were the days my friend....."
    Regrets in hearing about your friend. RIP to him, and may your memories be untainted of those good old times.

    Cheers...

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    Same As Harry, make sure you get your best shot in first, if he's still standing your fekked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Same As Harry, make sure you get your best shot in first, if he's still standing your fekked.
    Why is it all about getting one's best shot in first?

    If it is the typical, run-of-the-mill drunk or sober person, then why is it imperative to get your best shot in first?

    My point is that I am curious as to what got the fellowship to the point of becoming an altercation, and what were the beginning signs that issues were approaching a point of physical confrontation?

    Why the seeming apathy?

    Why let it get that way?

    Is it simply that one simply wants to feel a bit of pain the next day, when he goes to shave and sees the swelling or bits of lacerations on his face... or feels the creaking a groaning of his limbs when he crawls out of bed?

    Seems a bit odd to me... this physical altercation issue.

    What blows my mind is the rather large individuals out and about and on the piss, who get upset at someone smaller than them, and rant on and on about how they are going to do this or that, and do nothing.

    I rather dislike bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmart View Post
    My middle name is Trouble. Luckily I possess a mighty roundhouse kick, and Chuck's "Action Jeans" for when I get into an inevitable scrape.
    I ran cross country and track and field for many years. I was good. Really good.

    No matter how hard I trained, there was always someone out there who was dedicated to beat me.

    That is the way it is when one runs with blinders on and only sees the end point... and moreover not the competition. The competition is merely one of the obstructions to winning at all costs.

    Human beings, who are civilized do not see it that way. They run without blinders on and have full peripherals, and can see if they are winning in a manner that is civilized and in full consideration of the ones they are winning against.

    You cannot be first, if second and third and so on disagree with you, and are willing to put their lives on the line and end your megalomania.

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    A couple of years ago, a mainly Expat football team vs top of the league Thai team in a local Bangkok amateur Thai league.. About 30mins in our African center forward went in on the GK and it all kicked off. A few of us wade in trying to calm things down and failed miserably, still fighting and chasing each other I retreat to a corner flag where they start on me cos they think i'm gonna use it as a weapon

    Match abandoned and I fucked off sharpish so I didn't get kicked in.

    4 or 5 of us banned for a while and we ended up leaving the league.

    Brief shot.

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    The gentle Thai nature coming out on the pitch.

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    You don't half waffle.

    If you want to get the shit kicked out of you, all good with me, I was to handsum to have anyone spoiling my looks.......


    Quote Originally Posted by Username2015 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Same As Harry, make sure you get your best shot in first, if he's still standing your fekked.
    Why is it all about getting one's best shot in first?

    If it is the typical, run-of-the-mill drunk or sober person, then why is it imperative to get your best shot in first?

    My point is that I am curious as to what got the fellowship to the point of becoming an altercation, and what were the beginning signs that issues were approaching a point of physical confrontation?

    Why the seeming apathy?

    Why let it get that way?

    Is it simply that one simply wants to feel a bit of pain the next day, when he goes to shave and sees the swelling or bits of lacerations on his face... or feels the creaking a groaning of his limbs when he crawls out of bed?

    Seems a bit odd to me... this physical altercation issue.

    What blows my mind is the rather large individuals out and about and on the piss, who get upset at someone smaller than them, and rant on and on about how they are going to do this or that, and do nothing.

    I rather dislike bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    The gentle Thai nature coming out on the pitch.
    Knowing Thais as I do, and their nature, it makes me wonder what transacted between the African player and the GK.

    My curiosity makes me wonder if the "offended" African player is black, or not.

    Still... I wonder what transacted prior to, and leading up to the altercation.

    Words cut deep, and it takes an extremely strong man of will to let it slide of the back.

    What a regrettable story.

    I'll wager that whatever was said could of just as easily been avoided with a simple verbal response in kind, rather than instead of an emotional swelling of the testosterone and hence an attack.

    Men are a strange breed.

    It's odd, though... in hockey, they all let the two sort it out, and everyone parts their ways and moves on. In football (like this) it seems that the slightest slight can erupt into an full on digression from the game at hand.

    My best wishes to the GK and the African, who felt compelled to attack.

    I sincerely hope that they settled their differences and can actually sit down and shoot a game of snooker and/or toss back a pint of the finest cold beverage Thailand has to offer.

    Life is too fucking short, after all.

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    Ye those hockey players go one on one


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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    The gentle Thai nature coming out on the pitch.
    More curiosity than anything else - something to gossip about later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Ye those hockey players go one on one

    I guess the questions I have for all of you British men out there is this: when do you step in and stop the fight? When do you decide that one man is getting his ass kicked to the point of personal injury or worse? Why, in that hockey video, no one stepped in and simply broke it up? What is the goal... because quite frankly the game ends and the new Gladiator games begin. Not even the referees (or umpires?) make a legitimate effort to break it up.

    Is it a guy thing, and why is that?

    Why does no one ever step in?

    In the USA, a fight lasts mere seconds before others step in and break it up. What is it that makes the fight legitimate, and therefore acceptable to carry on with the possibility of serious damage to one, the other, or both?

    ....simply curious is all.

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    If that happened in Europe you would either be sent off and then arrested or the Game cancelled seems we happen to be more civilised and have better breeding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    If that happened in Europe you would either be sent off and then arrested or the Game cancelled seems we happen to be more civilised and have better breeding.
    I might agree with the possibility of being sent off, or the game being cancelled, but the comment about being civilized and having better breeding.... well... isn't that the very same kind of comment which engages this kind of behavior?

    Life can get very confusing at times, can it not?

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    Lets just say, these guys are being paid a lot of money, and are supposed to be role models for aspiring players, there are kids at these venues, should they be able to see the animals doing this.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    Lets just say, these guys are being paid a lot of money, and are supposed to be role models for aspiring players, there are kids at these venues, should they be able to see the animals doing this.?
    Should they also be able to see mum and dad shouting at the top of their lungs about this?

    Life can definitely get very confusing at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username2015 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio Hornblower View Post
    If that happened in Europe you would either be sent off and then arrested or the Game cancelled seems we happen to be more civilised and have better breeding.
    I might agree with the possibility of being sent off, or the game being cancelled, but the comment about being civilized and having better breeding.... well... isn't that the very same kind of comment which engages this kind of behavior?

    Life can get very confusing at times, can it not?
    That might depend on the degree of confusion, wouldn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username2015
    Knowing Thais as I do, and their nature, it makes me wonder what transacted between the African player and the GK.
    playing football is like driving in Thailand, it brings out the worst in them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Username2015
    African player is black, or not.
    big and black, just a hard but fair tackle. it was the Thai opposition that reacted badly to it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Username2015
    I guess the questions I have for all of you British men out there is this: when do you step in and stop the fight?
    soon as. 'cos I want to play football not to watch people fight. it's amateur, we don't get paid for it and we all have jobs to go to so why do some take it so.fucking.seriously. !


    There is probably at least 1 fight on the pitch a weekend in the local Bangkok expat league. Bangkok Casuals League : Results


    a few months ago i'd subbed myself off and taken my boots off cos the beers i'd had before the game must have been a bit dodgy, when a fight broke out in front of me. 2 taller, heavier, stronger guys rolling around on the floor. I step in to try to break it up and literally could not move either one.

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