Thread: I'm going on a DIET !!!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

If he intends to lose that much in a year then the only solution would be a gastric band.

Dieting on these fad regimes is futile.

Once you stop, the body piles it on again but converts to fat quicker in case you fuck with it with another diet.

It's all quite simple really. Reduce your intake, expend more energy and balance the diet.

There may be genetic issues in which case you are buggered.

I wish you all the best with it Nig and commend you for taking the first step.

That said, Thegent is spot on with the above.

First thing is to drop the " DIET " word. Its bullshit and rarely works.

The correct wording is,

" I will change my eating habits and lifestyle".

You will be met with failure and disappointment if you do not.

Its a long term thing and a way of life.

Aiming for 50 KG in a year is setting yourself up with failure one again, your Body will revolt.

If you are doing everything right and not getting anywhere your last resort is to go the gastric band. A proven alternative for people who cannot do it through correct diet and exercise.

The next thing is to not friggin over do it by starving your self and over exercising.

If you do this you will hate it and fall from the wagon eventually.

Just easy easy mate, bit by bit EH.

All the good luck to you with this.

Think long term and not the quick fix.

Nigel the 5:2 diet really does work, seeing the amazing results 2 family members achieved made me go on it for a year and lose around 22kg's in that time. But if you really want to put your weight loss into overdrive, some tips that helped me greatly were;

• 5:2 works well, 4:3 works even better.
• Your body and brain will take a while to learn the difference between being hungry and not being full. And there's a big difference.
• On days when you can eat normally, don't stuff yourself and incorporate the Paleo diet food on these days (Google it if you don't know it).
• On days when you're going to eat normally, get in 30-40 mins of exercise. Alternate between HIIT cardio and weights if you can.
• Limit booze. Nothing wrong with having a few drinks now and then but the problem is who can resist a double cheeseburger or fish'n'chips once they've had a couple?.
• Don't weigh yourself every day, make it once every 2-3 weeks. If you're throwing some weights around you may stay at the same weight or increase some weeks, but this is good.
• To really gauge how your weight loss is going, use how tight your clothes fit as the benchmark. I lost around 4 inches of my waist, the belt holes don't lie.
• Treat yourself to whatever you like once in a while or you'll go insane, some pizza or ice cream never tasted so good once you've gone without for a few weeks.
• The "you'll put it all back on once you stop the diet" line is pure bullshit if you want it to be. Once I hit the weight I wanted the memory of how easy it was to put on weight and how hard it was to lose still keeps me away from eating/drinking shit I know will turn me into a 130kg blimp again.

There's a ton of information on this available on the net for free. I had about 20 different pages bookmarked and all of them helped in some way but the best information I found was reading the success and failure stories from normal people who were on the 5:2, and using their finds of what worked and what didn't to my own advantage. Good luck to you, for sure anyone can do this if they really want to. Besides feeling so much better about yourself and you health, the ultimate good feeling comes when you see someone for the first time in a while and they say "Jesus Christ you've lost some weight!". You know you're on the right track when that happens.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

And get rid of that bike.

That I have to disagree on. Use the bike, it's worked for me. Unfortunately here in Thailand one takes to the roads at ones peril. Either the dogs will get you or the inconsiderate Thai drivers that think they're the bees knees behind the wheel will. I now stick to back roads/tracks as the dogs are the lesser of the two evils.

Headworx, are you an American?

Hang on with that dieting.

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Get yourself a good quality set of digital scales and weigh yourself everyday in the morning only. Not any other time.

I do this every day, This way I know exactly when I need to get of the piss for a few days.

Its quite funny actually, if I drink two days running I gain 1.5 kilo. If I keep drinking the weight gain continues.

Once I hit the weight gain of 1.5 Kilo I stop drinking and it comes off again in two days.

Then I can get back on the Dark Beer Lao's again.

The point being, with a good set of scales they will tell you what causes your body to gain weight and you can adjust accordingly.

Every little tip we can use will help us maintain a healthy weight.

Thing with being heavy is that when one gets older it can really fuk with your life style options especially in Thailand.

Christ, one don't want to retire and then fuk up health wise EH.

FFS...Pack in the fruit. I thought it was good for you!

I have it for breakfast every morning...

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Headworx, are you an American?

Nope. I'm from a small place called Nunaya F.B. Most people have never heard of it.

Dieting in Thailand is easy. No beer, no farang food, and plenty of swimming every day.

Only place in the world I lose weight without trying.

Any kind of exercise will help weight loss, I did it in my forties by swimming a kilometer in the local pool every morning on my way to work. I did it religiously for 9 years, even though the 15kgs that the doctor told me to lose came off in 9 months.

The 5.30 am wake up was torture at first, but very soon the disciplined approach to life helped me with my dietary changes and many other aspects of my life and I still exercise for an hour at least four times a week.

Cycling is great exercise, but puts stress on the knees whilst swimming does not stress any joints, plus swimming allows some wonderful early morning underwater ogling opportunities. It really did set me up for the day. Swimming in an indoor pool is a year round activity, cycling, especially on dark wet windy freezing winter days is just miserable.

Foodwise, fuck the silly diets, unless you want to be on them for life, just change your lifestyle a bit, eat a sensible balanced diet, no need to cut anything out really, just limit the sugar, dairy and deep fried.

And to keep the weight off, you will need to retain the new habits for life, so dont make the changes too severe or unbearable or you will just be counting the days until they can be stopped and you can resume your old ways and habits.

Originally Posted by charleyboy

FFS...Pack in the fruit. I thought it was good for you!

I have it for breakfast every morning...

Fruits these days are bred to be sweeter than they are in the wild habitat. Lots of sugars in them. Moderation is key.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Dieting in Thailand is easy. No beer, no farang food, and plenty of swimming every day.

The beer is the big one, must watch that, drop the Farang food is another good idea.

I love the Thai food plus the Handbag is a great cook, fish and veggies mostly.

I walk shit loads, great way to discover and see things plus get in the exercise.

Just get the exercise in what ever way you get some enjoyment out of it.

Gota keep moving.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Fruits these days are bred to be sweeter than they are in the wild habitat.

I've had no success with my attempts at fruit interbreeding.
It does help a little with weight loss though.

Originally Posted by taxexile

Cycling is great exercise, but puts stress on the knees whilst swimming does not stress any joints, plus swimming allows some wonderful early morning underwater ogling opportunities.

That might well be the case out in the far east Tax but in our local pool just down the road

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That's not funny Nig,

I'm nearly ready for my lunch and now you have just fuked that.

Oh well, another Kilo down the shitter.

Originally Posted by terry57

Gota keep moving.

That apart from the weight loss bit Terry is an excellent point ,, I have a mate stuck over in the land of fake smiles who has sat around of rear too long ,,, blood clots legs and lungs ,, not good .

I,m always walking to our shops , the missus being Thai orientated where on our local plot at home they use the Wave to move between each others homes ( 100 yards ) cannot understand when the car is sitting there .

" why you not go by car ?? "

cause I,ve got fkn legs !!!

Just had a quick look at me repo to see how many reds I have today ,, and there is a green in there from AO with a tale about what he has been up to since his last birthday .
Now its not for me to repeat on here but all I can say is its one hell of an achievement
and very encouraging .

Shame he didn't do a thread on it .

Mabe most of us need to cut a bit down and et a bit more active

Actually, Tax, I watched a report by some British university on dieting and exercise. The results were interesting. Essentially, the students who exercised as part of the diet regime didn't lose any more weight than those who didn't and there came a point when the regime yielded little or no weight loss for any of them.

The conclusion included the thesis that for many of us it is impossible to defeat the implications of human evolution which has programmed us to retain fat wherever and whenever possible. Sure, we can be overweight, within our own unique being and dieting will bring us back to our genetically determined norm, but to shed weight beyond that is impossible without starvation or risking malnutrition.

Frankly, Nigel, might well discover he can lose some weight but eventually he will hit that encoded barrier. Just depends where it is. At least he can try to find out but for most, losing weight to fit some ideal is as impossible as gaining height.

Hope that doesn't depress him.

Nope never will mate ,, I,m a glass half full person ^

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That's when one goes down the route of the gastric band if still obese.

Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Basically you eat normally 5 days per week , I think you are allowed 2600 calls for a man

Then 2 days a week you drop down to 500 calls for those days .

Now I have sent away for a cook book for this diet off Ebay , cost me £5.69p post free .

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Originally Posted by nigelandjan

Well not quite yet I,m not as I am about to go on holiday ,, and I can,t walk past the khanom khok stall when I am on me hols ,, so I will be starting it seriously on March 6th when I get back to the UK .


The diet I am going on is called the 5 : 2 diet

Basically you eat normally 5 days per week , I think you are allowed 2600 calls for a man

Then 2 days a week you drop down to 500 calls for those days .

According to the plan you will loose 1kg - 1.5kg per week every week you are on it .

To lose those kilos you need a weekly calorie deficit of 9000 - 13,500 (9 calories per gram of fat), which you wont achieve by a 2100 calorie deficit twice per week.

Also, don't guess what your normal calorific intake should be. Use a calculator http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html