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    Do you enjoy the competitiveness of life?

    I don't mean a game of darts down the pub, but

    o jostling for the best exam grades at school
    o trying to get into the best uni
    o trying to outbid others for a nice place to live
    o trying to find an attractive mate
    o trying to get a rewarding and enjoyable career
    o trying to find ways to see the world
    o wanting your kids to have the best
    o having to exploit others to do well for yourself whilst avoiding allowing others to exploit you

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    Bah, most of those things aint worth worrying about , let someone else get stressed out .
    but what's wrong with getting competitive over a game of arrows ?



    Some notable Darts quotes by the inimitable Commentator Sid Wadell :


    "The atmosphere is so tense, if Elvis walked in ,with a portion of chips..... you could hear the vinegar sizzle on them"


    "It's like trying to pin down a kangaroo on a trampoline"


    "Well as giraffes say, you don't get no leaves unless you stick your neck out"


    "It's the nearest thing to public execution this side of Saudi Arabia."


    “His face is sagging with tension.”


    "Circus Tavern packed - even a garter snake smothered in Vaseline couldn’t slide in here."

    "Has he overdone the hair gel or is that pure tension?"

    "He’s singing with the tungsten tonight."

    "He has the air of a master who’d rather give you six of the best than detention."

    "Bristow with that little finger poised - fit to grace any garden party."



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    For me, some of the examples in the OP are not competitive situations - and some seem a bit odd.

    * Exam grades: I tried to get good exam grades for myself, not because I was competing against anybody else.
    * Uni: I tried to get into a good uni that was suitable for me and provided the type of course I wanted to study. My decision had nothing to do with anybody else and what they wanted to do.
    * Mate: It's not a competition to find the most attractive mate, not for me anyway. Tastes differ.
    * See the world: competitive?
    * Kids to have the best: I want my offspring to have a good life, and hopefully a better one than mine, but I'm not competing with anyone else to do that.
    * Exploit others: A bit of a weird one, that is. Depends on your definition of exploit I suppose (employee v employer?).

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    Nope. I'm not competitive in life, only in board games. I only try to better my own performance in work etc, don't try to compete against others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    For me, some of the examples in the OP are not competitive situations - and some seem a bit odd.

    * Exam grades: I tried to get good exam grades for myself, not because I was competing against anybody else.
    * Uni: I tried to get into a good uni that was suitable for me and provided the type of course I wanted to study. My decision had nothing to do with anybody else and what they wanted to do.
    * Mate: It's not a competition to find the most attractive mate, not for me anyway. Tastes differ.
    * See the world: competitive?
    * Kids to have the best: I want my offspring to have a good life, and hopefully a better one than mine, but I'm not competing with anyone else to do that.
    * Exploit others: A bit of a weird one, that is. Depends on your definition of exploit I suppose (employee v employer?).

    Put it this way

    o Why did you want good exam grades? If you'd said "I didn't care about the grades, I just wanted to study to better myself with skills, knowledge and understanding" then it wouldn't be competitive. But the grades? Well, you presumably wanted them to open doors for you not open to people with less grades presumably i.e. access to further education or jobs. That is by its very nature competitive.

    o Most attractive girls have other choices open to them and they need to be won over by the guy they eventually settle down with. That is a competitive process

    o See the world as in finding the freedom and money to do it. Everyone would like to spend their life travelling the world, but very few find a way to do it. The majority have to spend a tedious existence grafting and being tied down by commitments.

    o To offer your offspring the best you need to earn a good wedge. That is competitive.

    o An example of exploiting others is rentier capitalism Rentier capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia whereby people these days seem to have an expectation of making unearned wealth during their life, and one easy way to do it is to outbid first time buyers for the properties they want to buy and then rent it to them, which is in effect a legal way of stealing the property from them at the end of your (which would have been their) mortgage period. Unpleasant, but increasingly common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    o Why did you want good exam grades? If you'd said "I didn't care about the grades, I just wanted to study to better myself with skills, knowledge and understanding" then it wouldn't be competitive. But the grades? Well, you presumably wanted them to open doors for you not open to people with less grades presumably i.e. access to further education or jobs. That is by its very nature competitive.
    When I was young, I didn't take exams seriously. That came with 'growing up'. As a 'grown up', I have always wanted to study and learn new things to better myself with skills, knowledge and understanding. When it comes to exams, I mostly want to do well for myself. If I've studied for a year, 2, 3 or 4 years, there's no point blowing it all by flunking the exams. And of course, exam results can be used for jobs and more education. I understand that. It's a given. But as my goal is always to do the best I can, I am competing with myself rather than with anybody else. That's how I see it anyway. I really don't think of other people (other students or learners) when I study. I think about me and how well I understand the subjects and how well I can do. For me.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    o Most attractive girls have other choices open to them and they need to be won over by the guy they eventually settle down with. That is a competitive process
    Sure. Everybody has choices. Perhaps when I was 20 years old I tried to compete but by the time I was 30, things were different. I didn't try to compete. I had choices and I was a bit fussy when it came to long term partners.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    o See the world as in finding the freedom and money to do it. Everyone would like to spend their life travelling the world, but very few find a way to do it. The majority have to spend a tedious existence grafting and being tied down by commitments.
    I've seen most of the world I want to see. I've done quite a bit of travelling in my time. Some were expensive trips and some were not. I did a "EuroRail" trip when I was 18 or 20 (I forget exactly) that didn't cost much money at the time. Later I could afford much more expensive trips. I had a well paid job that I worked hard to get. Yes, getting that job was competitive. It's probably the most competitive I have been in my life regarding work.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    o To offer your offspring the best you need to earn a good wedge. That is competitive.
    Yes, a good wedge can come in very handy. That's why I wrote that I want my offspring to have a good life and hopefully a better life than mine. The best? I'm not so sure about that. There are lots of ways to provide for kids. Money is good for some things but it is not needed for other things but for sure, I'd like to have the option of both. Having said that, I don't intend to work 70 hours a week just to pay for a more expensive school education. I guess I'm not as competitive as you about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    o An example of exploiting others is rentier capitalism Rentier capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia whereby people these days seem to have an expectation of making unearned wealth during their life, and one easy way to do it is to outbid first time buyers for the properties they want to buy and then rent it to them, which is in effect a legal way of stealing the property from them at the end of your (which would have been their) mortgage period. Unpleasant, but increasingly common.
    Well, I don't want to exploit anyone or be exploited by anyone, at least not in the sense you mean.

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