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    Why is Thailand going the wrong way with visitor visas?

    For example

    Embassy of Japan in the UK
    General sightseeing, visiting relatives or friends, recreation, convalescence, attending a conference, participation in unpaid lectures, meetings, amateur athletic meetings or other contests, short business trips (e.g. market surveys, business talks, after sales service for machinery imported into Japan)

    UK and Irish passport holders are NOT required to obtain a visa if they wish to enter Japan for the purpose of journey described above for a period of 6 months or less

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    NEWS FLASH; "runner", the glorious "Land 'O Thaiz" ain't Japan. You're comparing som-tam to sushi with that lame attempt at reason...

    I don't think thailand is going the wrong way on visitor visas. What they don't want is people living here under the guise of "tourists" (which by their very nature, come, tour, then leave), or on visa exempt stamps by "border bouncing".

    I can't see anything wrong with them tightening up the system and closing loop-holes that have been exploited by foreigners for years and years..

    IF one were semi interested, which you don't appear to be, you could go to the TAT website and see the figures for real tourism.

    You'd see that most of the tourists to thailand come from other asian countries, they come in groups of 10-15, they stay an average of 14 days, they spend about 3500 baht a day NOT including hotels and then most importantly in the eyez of the thaiz, they LEAVE and go back to where ever it is they came from..

    Most foreign tourists I've met here, or should I say foreigners living here by exploiting the tourist visa or visa exempt loopholes don't spend near that per day.

    Don't pretend you're a "contributor" to the thai economy because as a rule foreigners overestimate their own self importance here by a factor of 100...

    My advice; wake up, get with the program, get sorted visa wise or go back where ever it is you came from....

    Just an aside; thaiz showing up in Japan get 14 days without a visa too..
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    Nobody likes any foreigners staying in their country. With this being said, how a country handles and enforces this situatuation is up to them. This is why there is a wide range of visa requirements around the world.

    My son has both an American passport and a Thai passport. This gives him the ability of visiting many countries in the world without having to jump thru so many hoops.

    Take a look at Saudi Arabia where you can not even enter the country unless you are a national or have a sponser to work in the country.

    To think that all countries should have the same immigration restrictons is siĺly. To think Thailand should also adopt someones elses restrictions is equally silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    To think that all countries should have the same immigration restrictons is siĺly.
    why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    3500 baht a day
    Quote Originally Posted by toddaniels
    Most foreign tourists I've met here, or should I say foreigners living here by exploiting the tourist visa or visa exempt loopholes don't spend near that per day.
    How would you know what someone else spends unless your basing your theory on yourself, living alone with 2 cats and no pussy Todd ?

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    Do I really need to explain the obvious for you? Use your God given brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    living alone with 2 cats and no pussy Todd ?

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    ^

    Don't know why you're laughing so hard ??

    Todly may spend a large wedge of his money on Sukumvit pussy.

    Who knows EH.

    You guys are a tad nasty to Todly at times not that I think he takes any of it on-board.

    His Visa information is brilliant though, much more useful information he offers up than the vast majority of knob jockeys that are on this board these days .

    Just saying like.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runner View Post
    For example

    Embassy of Japan in the UK
    General sightseeing, visiting relatives or friends, recreation, convalescence, attending a conference, participation in unpaid lectures, meetings, amateur athletic meetings or other contests, short business trips (e.g. market surveys, business talks, after sales service for machinery imported into Japan)

    UK and Irish passport holders are NOT required to obtain a visa if they wish to enter Japan for the purpose of journey described above for a period of 6 months or less
    According to my records, UK passport holders can spend 30 days in Thailand without a visa.

    Perhaps you don't know what a visa is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    UK passport holders can spend 30 days in Thailand without a visa.
    Correct if entering at airport. Otherwise 15 days.

    Nice of the Thais. Visa required for Thais to enter UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    UK passport holders can spend 30 days in Thailand without a visa.
    Correct if entering at airport. Otherwise 15 days.

    Nice of the Thais. Visa required for Thais to enter UK.
    UK and a bunch of other favoured nations get 30 days at land crossings now.

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    Fair nuff. Didn't know that. Thanks even though I'll not be crossing in via a land crossing. Or any other way. No reason to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Perhaps you don't know what a visa is.
    Do you? The stamp in your passport on arrival in Thailand is a 'visa'. Complete bullshit that you can get a visa free stay for 30 days. No stamp(visa) no stay.
    vi·sa
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    noun: visa; plural noun: visas
    1. an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    My son has both an American passport and a Thai passport. This gives him the ability of visiting many countries in the world without having to jump thru so many hoops.
    One thing to look into for your sons future Rick is the dual nationality inheritance laws ,, I have no idea mate , but possibly the US will not allow him to inherit there , mabe worth a look for peace of mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    To think that all countries should have the same immigration restrictons is siĺly.
    why ?
    Why not?

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    Most first world countries garner a "30 day visa exempt stamp" when flying in and G7 countries get a 30 day visa exempt stamp crossing by land borders too, while the rest get 15 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Do you? The stamp in your passport on arrival in Thailand is a 'visa'.
    Now contrary to Pragmatic showing his ability to google definitions, a foreigner showing up here sans visa (without having purchased a real visa from a thai embassy or consulate BEFORE hand), gets stamped into the country on a "visa exempt entry". Whether Pragmatic believes it or not is of little real value, they are confusing a "visa exempt entry" with a real visa stamped into your passport before you get here. They are NOT the same! Nor are they are called a "visa on arrival" either. That's a different animal entirely, which only certain countries can do where they buy a visa at the airport when they fly in here.

    BTW: Don't forget, as of August 29th a person with either a 15 day or 30 day visa exempt stamp can go to Thai Immigrations and extend it for an additional 30 days for 1900baht. Some offices are wanting to see a flight out during that next 30 days, but Chaengwattana ain't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger
    How would you know what someone else spends unless your basing your theory on yourself, living alone with 2 cats and no pussy Todd ?
    Anyone ever see what kind of visa Tod has? Unlicensed Business visa no doubt, taking all those T-Shirts down to Nana to sell to his shifter tourist buddies and doing visa runs back and forth for them...nice pile of change that huh Tez?

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    I did a stint of 15 day border hops to mae sai and back and took back heaps of shit for the MIL in the back of the ute she sold for a nice profit. Good strong umbrellas for fuk all by bulk in Mae Sai, you dont even need to cross the border to get stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post

    Anyone ever see what kind of visa Tod has? Unlicensed Business visa no doubt, taking all those T-Shirts down to Nana to sell to his shifter tourist buddies and doing visa runs back and forth for them...nice pile of change that huh Tez?
    You forgot his other business, his homemade hooch, which he sold in his soi.
    I would like to see where he works officially, where the acceptable business attire is a big shifters KISS t-shirt.

    FFS - Tod has a go at everyone else, but a big overweight guy at 55 wearing a has been band's t-shirt has got to take the biscuit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post
    I did a stint of 15 day border hops to mae sai and back and took back heaps of shit for the MIL in the back of the ute she sold for a nice profit. Good strong umbrellas for fuk all by bulk in Mae Sai, you dont even need to cross the border to get stuff.
    I suppose you can save the money for a rainy day.

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    No need to hate on Todd, I think being a wanker is just part of his online persona. He certainly knows his shit and goes out of his way to help.

    Mind your own business fellas, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Slinging hooch is about as illegal as pimping in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Perhaps you don't know what a visa is.
    Do you? The stamp in your passport on arrival in Thailand is a 'visa'. Complete bullshit that you can get a visa free stay for 30 days. No stamp(visa) no stay.
    vi·sa
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    noun: visa; plural noun: visas
    1. an endorsement on a passport indicating that the holder is allowed to enter, leave, or stay for a specified period of time in a country.
    No it's not.

    It's a Visa exemption.

    I've had occasion to use both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    He certainly knows his shit and goes out of his way to help.
    Change 'help' to 'show off'. Definitely 'attention seeking' disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    No it's not. It's a Visa exemption. I've had occasion to use both.
    It's an entry in your passport giving permission to stay. Without it its bye bye. Therefore its a visa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    No it's not. It's a Visa exemption. I've had occasion to use both.
    It's an entry in your passport giving permission to stay. Without it its bye bye. Therefore its a visa.
    No it isn't. Todd and Harry are correct. Visa exempt. The clue is in the word "exempt".

    Exempt: (adj), freed from or not subject to an obligation.

    So you don't need to get a visa. You are not obliged to get a visa.

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