Thread: Dont worry wankers...

Originally Posted by Necron99

3 % is an overwhelming global majority

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ For Shaggy, Pi and Yaso .3 % is an overwhelming global majority

What a pile of arse bollocks that cont comes out with.

Its all spin and no substance.

A battle cry for revolution captures the imagination but it fails to take account of the true value and wisdom that gets accumulated in political and legal systems that evolve organically and democratically over centuries.

The supposed enemy of these nutters is the 'corporation'. Corporations in capitalist economies generate wealth and products and services and employment that the bedroom revolutionaries take for granted and wouldn't be able to function without.

Revolution is for teenagers.

Tell that to Cuba,USA,Egypt,Spain and Russia.

Originally Posted by Looper

Revolution is for teenagers.

As sure as cross dressing is for faggots my friend - you have a very valid point.

While I think Brand titled his book Revolution - I think he probably means slightly adjusting the system in favor of the people as opposed to the corporate owners - rather than a revolution per se.

Could be wrong though - what do you reckon loops?

Originally Posted by Necron99

98% of the people who heard what he had to say thought it was shit not worth voting on......

Does not follow...Understand your logic, but doesn't mean they thought it was shit...

Well, well
Several TD posters backing Brand and his Anarcho-Syndicalism ?

Is there still hope ?

"Bandiera Rossa la trionfera"

Originally Posted by Necron99

^ For Shaggy, Pi and Yaso .3 % is an overwhelming global majority

Most 'ordinary people' have heard his ideas dished up a hundred ways already and have mostly rejected them because they they are in the grip of fears created by the media and politicians. I like Russell Brand but he will never lead people to some kind of egalatarian utopia. Maybe brits will respond positively to his message because he is one of their own but Americans will reject him as some kind of foreign kook.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Most 'ordinary people' have heard his ideas dished up a hundred ways already and have mostly rejected them because they they are in the grip of fears created by the media and politicians. I like Russell Brand but he will never lead people to some kind of egalatarian utopia. Maybe brits will respond positively to his message because he is one of their own but Americans will reject him as some kind of foreign kook.

Mr Brand has quite a following from a younger generation. That is the key - a younger generation.
He's articulate , bright , engaging and probably doesn't use hard drugs anymore.
He's got a syndicated show, an itinerary of comedy gigs and televised events touting his book(s) and a load of money in his savings account.
He raises the same questions that have been raised for more than fifty years but in reality - doesn't present specific remedies to civilizations ills.

Personally speaking, George Carlin's "American Dream" was way ahead of his time
on who really controls the political agenda...Lenny Bruce prior.
At that time they didn't possess a modicum of media channels to disseminate their messages that are today's prevalent avenues of information / media distribution.

Mr Brand is just 're-hashing' visions of the past using today's examples (IMO).

Originally Posted by Neverna

I like him. He's got it all sorted out in his head. And he sounds genuine and not condescending like that prick Cameron. Brand for PM at the next election.

That's the complete opposite of the truth. He's the aborted poster-child of the brain-dead junior left.

Presumably that means Brand will be giving up his:

$15 million net worth (according to the Rich List)
$2.2 million mansion in the Hollywood Hills that once belonged to Laurence Olivier, complete with its own cinema, five bedrooms and five bathrooms
$10 million that according to Simon Cowell he pockets for each film he appears in
Directorships of several companies which allegedly use tax efficient financial arrangements
Extension of his £1.8 million book deal
Earnings from doing adverts for major multi-national corporations.
Use of the Savoy’s butlers to do his shopping
Perhaps he could donate it all to foodbanks instead? Hypocrites of the world, unite…

Russell Brand?s Marxist Facepalm - Guy Fawkes' blog

Real revolutions happen when there is a sudden drop in both economic and political realities versus expectations. The real revolution happening in the UK with the SNP and UKIP; and this is mirrored across Europe. Of course, the lefties like to own the concept of revolution, just as they like to own the concept of "fairness", and so they deny that anything resembling a radical revolt on what they call the right is described as everything but, and everything bad: everything from evil, hate, lies, to mental illness.

Brand is inarticulate, dim, and un-engaging. He probably never used hard drugs - it's all part of the "edgy" marketing of his brand to appeal to a desperate young audience.

Brand by name and brand by nature, he's using people via cultural memes to sell his brand and his products and look after his self - like a true socialist...

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

While it was only a few years ago he was a vacant twat, he seems to have found his calling and be headed in the right direction. Hopefully he continues to learn and highly refine and focus his thinking.

He stopped using drugs .

Originally Posted by Neverna

I like him.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

That's the complete opposite of the truth.

Are you saying I don't like him? A weird claim to make!!

Originally Posted by Neverna

He's got it all sorted out in his head.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

That's the complete opposite of the truth.

That's my impression. Your impression might be different but I doubt you have any more real idea of how 'sorted' Mr Brand's ideas are in his head than I do.

Originally Posted by Neverna

And he sounds genuine and not condescending like that prick Cameron.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

That's the complete opposite of the truth.

That's how he sounds to me. He might sound different to you but for you to claim that he sounds different to ME is another strange claim for you to make.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Brand for PM at the next election.

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

That's the complete opposite of the truth.

That's my tongue-in-cheek wish. I know it will never happen. It wasn't a prediction and I didn't claim it as fact or truth.

i think someone need to do a "revolution" on Brands head, the verbal bolox that omits from this fools mouth leaves much to be desired, (waste 15 minutes of your time at your peril,)
having had the most unfortunate experience of crossing paths with this fool as a child growing up in Essex one can only wonder where the youth of today is really going when they follow this guy's line of crap, he certainly does not dupe me.

Originally Posted by Nathan Napalm

While it was only a few years ago he was a vacant twat, he seems to have found his calling and be headed in the right direction. Hopefully he continues to learn and highly refine and focus his thinking.

Are you for real?

First victory for Russell Brand's 'revolution'



Brand marched alongside local residents to protest against plans alleged to increase rent to up to £2,000 a month

First victory for Russell Brand's 'revolution' as Tory MP's New Era Estate company pulls out of Hoxton development - Home News - UK - The Independent

brand likes to be in the news
his latest rant he joins a group trying to stop an American company buying a block of flats that have fixed rent , to stop them maybe charging market rent to the tenants , or something like that .
Brand didn't like it when a reporter asks how much rent he pays himself



the block of flats that looks like a 1930s social housing estate or a 'project' in American terms'.
Shows how bad the accommodation problem is in London if people care about living in a shithole like that

Millionaire comedian and former Mr Katy Perry, Russell Brand pays thousands a month to his tax-exile landlords despite campaigning against rocketing rent prices

• Russell Brand called Channel 4 reporter 'snide' after asking about his rent
• Comedian lives in £2million home owned by a firm based in a tax haven
• Flew into rage when it was suggested he is part of the housing problem
• Brand is said to live in a chic fourth-storey flat in a converted warehouse
• Pays around £5,000 a month for three-bedroom property in East London

The star, believed to be worth £9million, was helping deliver a petition on affordable housing to 10 Downing Street on Monday.
But Brand lost his temper during a housing protest in Downing Street when TV reporter Paraic O'Brien asked him whether the super-rich buying up property in London was driving up prices for everyone else.
The incensed star said he is 'part of the solution' and called the reporter a 'snide' for asking how much he pays in rent.

Russell Brand erupts in rage as TV reporter demolishes his anti-capitalist credentials | Daily Mail Online

^ As I was saying, I think it was a fair question by the reporter, and a question Brand should have been ready for and easily able to respond to. He must have got up on the wrong side of the bed.

It was a fair question.

But of course it suits the establishment to insist that anyone who is on the side of the poor and powerless is a hypocrite if they are doing well and have a voice.

Brand's point, as I'm sure you're aware, is that the whole system is not working. If we effectively insist that those who are doing well out of the system and have a voice must approve of it then so the system is perpetuated.

In a nutshell, he is an anarchist anti-capitalist socialist unionist. There is nothing original about it.

Whilst his intent is wholesome, what he forgets is that it is people who work hard and invest their money who own the majority of corporations via pension funds etc and benefit from their profits. Anyone can do that, but he seems to prefer to support those who want a free ride.

Originally Posted by runner

he seems to prefer to support those who want a free ride.

you mean his landlord ? -
who is registered in British Virgin Islands to get away without paying tax - to the tune of £75 K a year ?

He is a hypocrite in the sense he doesn't want a block of flats being sold to a foreign owned business to then let out to richer people , but he happy to rent a similarly owned place himself .

Originally Posted by Humbert

Maybe brits will respond positively to his message because he is one of their own but Americans will reject him as some kind of foreign kook.

Probably, but you've got homegrown versions (often less kooky) pointing out the growing problem with wealth inequality too. People like Robert Reich, Paul Krugman and good ole' Uncle Noam. It is a real issue, not being addressed, and it threatens both the fabric and stability of our society, and the neoliberal economy itself. Why are so many Americans (in particular) so damn brainwashed by the media and politicians? More than even Brits, you have been and are being blatantly robbed by a small minority.

Originally Posted by marcmarc

he certainly does not dupe me

Apparently not- you grant that particular Right to the media, politicians and the 'Establishment'.

Personally, I think it's well past time for the People to flex their collective muscle- and if it takes a few kooks like Russell Brand to awaken them from their collective torpor, then he's a hero in my books. They pulled the wool over Your eyes and redistributed the wealth away from You to benefit a tiny minority, now show some damn balls and get them to redistribute some back. It only takes a more equitable taxation policy- hardly Trotskyite stuff.