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    Why is your Jesus depicted or thought of as Euro-Caucasian..??
    Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[1] or Europid[2]) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia.[3]

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    ain't a great deal of options left .

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    It's easy. The Medicis, Borgias and Sforzas et al didn't want their saviour depicted with a big schnoz and dark skin. The depiction stuck from the Renaissance through the modern era.

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    I read a good book on the facticity of Jesus' existence a few years ago.

    Forget the name. It is at home.

    From what I remember he almost certainly existed and was a radical and inspiring philosopher of his time.

    Joseph almost certainly did not exist.

    Jesus had several siblings but no father of record.

    Mary was possibly a woman of low repute with illegitimate children who was elevated to saintly status retrospectively.

    Of course he would have looked middle eastern. The white Jesus is an air-brushed myth.

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    Thought he was either of the yellow race or slightly jaundiced.

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    ^Piss Christ is an interesting piece of art from a political perspective I think.

    As a piece of art it is worthless trash since it relies only on shock value which is the hallmark of artistic garbage.

    But the fact that it has been on display in the west shows that Christianity is the most progressive religion in the world since it accommodates within its host society such flagrant hostility.

    Christianitywill be the first religion to voluntarily admit defeat and raise the white flag and accept that God does not exist.

    On the day that the Piss Allah work of art is unveiled (which will certainly happen one day at the hands of some talentless artist) we will be well on the road to a healthy global socially integrated community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    But the fact that it has been on display in the west shows that Christianity is the most progressive religion in the world since it accommodates within its host society such flagrant hostility.

    Christianitywill be the first religion to voluntarily admit defeat and raise the white flag and accept that God does not exist.
    Dont be daft- do you know how much money these religions make?

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    I just think one religion is going to have to go first as the global population becomes more enlightened. I cannot see any more progressive religion than Christianity when it comes to openly discussing atheism as an alternative way of life. Quite a number of moderate and intelligent Christian preachers are happy discuss atheism in a rational manner without throwing the toys out of the pram. I have not seen such an open-minded attitude from any other religion's clerics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by titan View Post
    Why is your Jesus depicted or thought of as Euro-Caucasian..??


    Caucasian race (also Caucasoid[1] or Europid[2]) is the general physical type of some or all of the populations of Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, Western Asia, Central Asia, and South Asia.[3]

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    ain't a great deal of options left .
    Notice the Euro hyphen [to distinguish Europeans] to cast off the expected pedantry.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    Dont be daft- do you know how much money these religions make?
    Not only the money aspect. There is more, there is the most important freedom aspect. You can reason away almost anything, no matter how illogical or destructive, provided you are doing in the name of the Lord, or Allah, or anyone of the other dozen monikers assigned to the "ruler of all".

    Absolute justification - it is God's will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    I have not seen such an open-minded attitude from any other religion's clerics.
    Perhaps Buddhism - the religion of tolerance, or perhaps, acceptance, or possibly the religion of apathy. "All life is suffering". Accept what you have since its all determined by your karma which is based on your past life(s) actions. You, and everyone else for that matter, get what you deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Actually, I once read that the Aramaic word which is now translated as "virgin" originally meant "had never had a child".
    Just like the monks copying the word celibate for hundreds of yes when the actual word was celebrate !

    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Perhaps Buddhism - the religion of tolerance, or perhaps, acceptance, or possibly the religion of apathy. "All life is suffering". Accept what you have since its all determined by your karma which is based on your past life(s) actions. You, and everyone else for that matter, get what you deserve.
    Ah yes the old I'm a rich spoilt brat, from a family who steals taxpayers and others money, to whom you should look up to because I was a good person in a former life scam.
    Better to think inside the pub, than outside the box?
    I apologize if any offence was caused. unless it was intended.
    You people, you think I know feck nothing; I tell you: I know feck all
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Looper
    I have not seen such an open-minded attitude from any other religion's clerics.
    Perhaps Buddhism - the religion of tolerance, or perhaps, acceptance, or possibly the religion of apathy. "All life is suffering". Accept what you have since its all determined by your karma which is based on your past life(s) actions. You, and everyone else for that matter, get what you deserve.
    Extreme blind cultural-centrism has less merit, usually in the form of fanciful identity superiority.....

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    There is a claim that Jesus was a copycat of the Egyptian god Horus ( from a documentary Religulous by writer and star Bill Mahr) Horus also supposedly walked on water, was born from a vigin and healed the sick.

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    Golden rule was copied. All religions before and after JC have simular. If all religions practiced it, world would be a better place. I like this one.

    When asked by a non-Jew to relate all the Torah had to say while standing on one foot, Hillel replied, "Do not unto your neighbor what you would not have him do until you; this is the whole Law; the rest is commentary."

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    Praise be to Hillel.
    But let’s not fixate on Horus. The real difference between Egyptian mythology and the story of Jesus is that the former is clearly a fable full of beings with super powers, whereas the latter is told in realistic terms with the occasional miracle thrown in.
    The simplest explanation for this is that the New Testament is largely about a real person, with embellishments added to impress the rubes or make a doctrinal point. I venture to say this was the working assumption among a sizable fraction of scholars for a long time, and many still hold to it.
    But I’d also say there’s a hardening realization that, setting aside obvious supernatural elements, we’ll never know which if any parts of the Gospel describe actual events and which are made up.
    We will also never know if Jesus was Caucasian, if the artists applyed too much Photoshop creme or if he was a fragment of the collective imagination.

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    he was god

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    Nice ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Golden rule was copied. All religions before and after JC have simular.
    There is nothing religious about the golden rule. It is hard-wired by evolution into the emotional logic of the human brain. It is the basis of reciprocal altruism, the tribal based sharing of resources which is seen in all human cultures since the stone age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    So....what of a Goddess presence?

    That's where Mary, Jesus' mother steps in.

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    Anyway, Jesus was a Buddhist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Anyway, Jesus was a Buddhist.
    This reference is where the journey and residence to India comes into play...


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    There's that bit,....but there's more.

    Helenism, the popular philosophy emerging from Greece before and at the time of Jesus, was heavily influenced by Vedic as well as by Buddhist thought.

    The earliiest records of Buddhist monks' self-immolation was in Alexandra, Egypt, (c) 130 BC,..(if I've got the date right.)

    Buddhism was alive and well in the Mediterranean countries at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Very funny, but also a good point.

    The bible was (at least partly) written in Aramaic, wasn't it ? Anybody know if there is current knowledge about how some words were pronounced ? Are any current languages related to it ?
    WHo knows and frankly who cares. It's just one of a load of made up religious texts with the sole purpose to control the masses of the world to accept hard times for a supposed greater good. Shame of it is though that in promising heaven / virgins or what ever they promise, it omits to mention that the people with the money and power who created the myths of religions are living their heaven on earth due to the billions on their knees every day thanking this god creation for their shit lives and duly accepting it believing that when they die.... life will get better!

    The Elites are living it now with no care about what happens when they die. Why? Because they know its all bollocks, so it doesn't matter what happens when they are dead because they will be fucking dead, and wont know what is happening, because they are dead.
    You will get your reward in the next life, for preaching the gospel according to My word.

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