Thread: Can you 'take someone down'?

Man, how to do that?

Originally Posted by dirk diggler

Used to be that if you thumped some kunt square on at the right angle you could put his nose bone through his brain.

Could be an urban myth.

Flashbang?

Urban Myth. Bit like all of these fools that were in the regiment (although I really was.)

Anyone was or in the army with experience?

Originally Posted by pattayardm

Shortly after I retired to bed I heard him come into the resort again. My patience snapped, I got dressed and went looking for him in a furious mood. I eventually found him outside a 7-eleven, went right to him and knocked him down with one punch yelling "STAY THE F**K OUT OF MY RESORT".

Originally Posted by pattayardm

The next day I got a warning from the police because it transpired the Nepalese guy had Thai citizenship and because of that I was in the wrong and could be kicked out of Thailand.

You didn't get the warning because he was a Thai citizen, you got it because you tracked him down and did the deed outside of your property. You should have done it inside the gates and the coppers would have said fuk all to you.

Originally Posted by Fozzy

If there's anything this thread can teach people it's don't punch with your fist.

You should only ever use open hand strikes (and as wrong as it may sound) slaps, instead of a clenched fist. More damage can be done with a hand anyway due to it's larger surface area and it reduces the risk to the very delicate bones in the hand. It's actually easier to knock somebody out cold with a slap than it is a punch.

I disagree. I'm sure some basic physics would show that the same force over a smaller surface area would have more impact (more applied pressure).



Apparently this is the formula for basic physics (for school kids).

P = F/A
Pressure = force divided by surface area.



Pressure is Force per Unit Area by Ron Kurtus - Succeed in Understanding Physics: School for Champions
https://thescienceclassroom.wikispaces.com/Newton's+Second+Law+of+Motion

Originally Posted by xanax

well don't pick a fight with a Thai, they are all fuking cowards one on one, ganging up is all they can do:

youtube.com/watch?v=4tHVcerUnvk

Impressive tough..

Indeed, but the silly armchair warriors here might have difficulty in comprehending the principle, being mostly blue collar oiks schooled in the arts of Andy Mcnab pulp fiction.

A two knuckle thrusting jab will do the job most times. In the ear is best if one wishes to simply end a threat without risking long term harm to the opponent - damn painful, and brings lots of tears to the eyes enabling one to withdraw safely.

Ah soooo, grasshopper.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fozzy

If there's anything this thread can teach people it's don't punch with your fist.

You should only ever use open hand strikes (and as wrong as it may sound) slaps, instead of a clenched fist. More damage can be done with a hand anyway due to it's larger surface area and it reduces the risk to the very delicate bones in the hand. It's actually easier to knock somebody out cold with a slap than it is a punch.

I disagree. I'm sure some basic physics would show that the same force over a smaller surface area would have more impact (more applied pressure).



Apparently this is the formula for basic physics (for school kids).

P = F/A
Pressure = force divided by surface area.



Pressure is Force per Unit Area by Ron Kurtus - Succeed in Understanding Physics: School for Champions
https://thescienceclassroom.wikispaces.com/Newton's+Second+Law+of+Motion

Let me hit you with a cane and then hit you with a lump of 2x4 and see which does the most damage. The main point I was making anyhow was protecting your hands. Just read how many people have damaged their own hands while trying to hurt somebody else. It's ridiculously common.

Originally Posted by nidhogg

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Originally Posted by Flaming Carrot

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Being knocked out is all about being hit on particular nerve endings

That's professional fighting or movie Bruce Lee stuff.

Definitely but the principles will still work no matter how trained/untrained you are. Like I said it's law of averages, if you know where to strike you may as well give it a shot and aim there.

I disagree. I know (mentally) exactly how to kill a man with one blow. But without the training, without the motor skills it will never happen.

But you don't need to be trained to jab your fingers in to some bodies throat or eyes and I reckon that's far more likely to get you out the shit than thinking you're Rocky and throwing a highly telegraphed hay maker in an attempt to take somebodies head clean off. You're much more likely to miss or break your own hand doing the latter if you are untrained IMO.

I get your point though. If you are completely untrained and you try to knock somebody out with a cute little strike to a pressure point you're going to come seriously unstuck.

Im a lover not a fighter.

Then again no one seem's to bother me on account of my 1000 yard stare.

Originally Posted by flashbang

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by pickel

My last fight was about 9 years ago and I ended up fracturing my wrist

For the average person, unless you do heavy work with your hands or lots of heavy bag in the gym, this is the likely outcome.
Better off using your elbow.

Or your head. If you end up in fights, you're probably not using it for anything else.

Last fight 8 months ago fractured both hands and couldn't ride or wank for awhile, some people need to be punched in the head repeatedly.

Punching someone repeatedly in the skull is pretty stupid. They are really hard. One rib shot can put a man in bed for a month. One liver shot can end a fight. Added bonus is you don't fracture both of your hands.

Yes it was stupid but I have never been known as Einstein when pissed hanging around Nana, plus head shots leave a better spray pattern master

Forgot about this one a few weeks ago I walk into a bar and sit down and some Russian walks up and calls me a [at][at][at][at], I guess I sat on his seat ?. I reply something about shoving his head through the glass fridge.
Bar owner goes did he just call you a [at][at][at][at] and shoves him and the guy goes back trips and knocks his head and is out cold. Another mate try's to drag him out the bar and rips his shirt and belt off, and probably half his skin as he pulls him along the concrete and dumps him down the road, 20 mins later the ambulance turns up and took him away.
I don't always agree with violence unless it's used on people asking or are deserving of it.

^

Look.

I am not a violent person but by fuk I love to see trouble makers get a solid sorting out.

Some people need to be bashed, easy as that innit.

Not by me by the way. Not hard enough.

Originally Posted by Rigger

some Russian walks up and calls me a [at][at][at][at], I guess I sat on his seat ?. I reply something about shoving his head through the glass fridge.

That would take some force, glass is pretty thick on them fridges.

Originally Posted by Rigger

Forgot about this one a few weeks ago I walk into a bar and sit down and some Russian walks up and calls me a [at][at][at][at], I guess I sat on his seat ?. I reply something about shoving his head through the glass fridge.
Bar owner goes did he just call you a [at][at][at][at] and shoves him and the guy goes back trips and knocks his head and is out cold. Another mate try's to drag him out the bar and rips his shirt and belt off, and probably half his skin as he pulls him along the concrete and dumps him down the road, 20 mins later the ambulance turns up and took him away.
I don't always agree with violence unless it's used on people asking or are deserving of it.

What is it about this forum and it's deadbeat fantasists whose blatherings are only exceeded by their inability to express them.

Presumably, you're an alcoholic or just stupid?

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fozzy

If there's anything this thread can teach people it's don't punch with your fist.

You should only ever use open hand strikes (and as wrong as it may sound) slaps, instead of a clenched fist. More damage can be done with a hand anyway due to it's larger surface area and it reduces the risk to the very delicate bones in the hand. It's actually easier to knock somebody out cold with a slap than it is a punch.

I disagree. I'm sure some basic physics would show that the same force over a smaller surface area would have more impact (more applied pressure).



Apparently this is the formula for basic physics (for school kids).

P = F/A
Pressure = force divided by surface area.



Pressure is Force per Unit Area by Ron Kurtus - Succeed in Understanding Physics: School for Champions
https://thescienceclassroom.wikispaces.com/Newton's+Second+Law+of+Motion

Let me hit you with a cane and then hit you with a lump of 2x4 and see which does the most damage. The main point I was making anyhow was protecting your hands. Just read how many people have damaged their own hands while trying to hurt somebody else. It's ridiculously common.

Let me poke you in your left eye with a small chisel and in your right eye with a piece of 2x4 and see which does the most damage.

If you are damaging your hands when punching, you are either a wuss (you have weak hands), or your punching technique is shit or you are hitting the wrong things or in the wrong places. Best thing is to not try to hurt other people.

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by flashbang

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Originally Posted by Necron99

For the average person, unless you do heavy work with your hands or lots of heavy bag in the gym, this is the likely outcome.
Better off using your elbow.

Or your head. If you end up in fights, you're probably not using it for anything else.

Last fight 8 months ago fractured both hands and couldn't ride or wank for awhile, some people need to be punched in the head repeatedly.

Punching someone repeatedly in the skull is pretty stupid. They are really hard. One rib shot can put a man in bed for a month. One liver shot can end a fight. Added bonus is you don't fracture both of your hands.

Yes it was stupid but I have never been known as Einstein when pissed hanging around Nana, plus head shots leave a better spray pattern master

Hanging around Nana having early morning drunken street-fights! Classy guy! How many tattoos do you have?

Originally Posted by flashbang

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by flashbang

Originally Posted by Rigger

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Or your head. If you end up in fights, you're probably not using it for anything else.

Last fight 8 months ago fractured both hands and couldn't ride or wank for awhile, some people need to be punched in the head repeatedly.

Punching someone repeatedly in the skull is pretty stupid. They are really hard. One rib shot can put a man in bed for a month. One liver shot can end a fight. Added bonus is you don't fracture both of your hands.

Yes it was stupid but I have never been known as Einstein when pissed hanging around Nana, plus head shots leave a better spray pattern master

Hanging around Nana having early morning drunken street-fights! Classy guy! How many tattoos do you have?

No it was early about 22:00 if I remember and the dick head pulled his little willy out and put it on the pool table while my wife and her girlfriends were celebrating a birthday, lucky to see nana once a year. Anyway I made fun of his man hood and all the girls were laughing hard and he got upset then tried to bite off more than he could chew. Unlucky for him I had just come off a 6 weeks fitness training program
I only have three tattoos but they are really big
Most the scum I see don't have tattoos

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Originally Posted by Neverna

Originally Posted by Fozzy

If there's anything this thread can teach people it's don't punch with your fist.

You should only ever use open hand strikes (and as wrong as it may sound) slaps, instead of a clenched fist. More damage can be done with a hand anyway due to it's larger surface area and it reduces the risk to the very delicate bones in the hand. It's actually easier to knock somebody out cold with a slap than it is a punch.

I disagree. I'm sure some basic physics would show that the same force over a smaller surface area would have more impact (more applied pressure).



Apparently this is the formula for basic physics (for school kids).

P = F/A
Pressure = force divided by surface area.



Pressure is Force per Unit Area by Ron Kurtus - Succeed in Understanding Physics: School for Champions
https://thescienceclassroom.wikispaces.com/Newton's+Second+Law+of+Motion

Let me hit you with a cane and then hit you with a lump of 2x4 and see which does the most damage. The main point I was making anyhow was protecting your hands. Just read how many people have damaged their own hands while trying to hurt somebody else. It's ridiculously common.

Let me poke you in your left eye with a small chisel and in your right eye with a piece of 2x4 and see which does the most damage.

If you are damaging your hands when punching, you are either a wuss (you have weak hands), or your punching technique is shit or you are hitting the wrong things or in the wrong places. Best thing is to not try to hurt other people.

Don't be silly. You are talking about two different kinds of force. We were talking about being knocked out not being stabbed! In your own example the chisel would do more damage but the 2x4 would still be more likely to knock you out because of the blunt force, and that's what was being discussed.

As for the the other nonsense, professional fighters break their hands regularly so are they wusses? And as for having bad technique that's exactly what we were talking about, the best way for untrained people to defend themselves without breaking their hands.

Try saying something accurate or at least relevant to the discussion.

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by Rigger

Forgot about this one a few weeks ago I walk into a bar and sit down and some Russian walks up and calls me a [at][at][at][at], I guess I sat on his seat ?. I reply something about shoving his head through the glass fridge.
Bar owner goes did he just call you a [at][at][at][at] and shoves him and the guy goes back trips and knocks his head and is out cold. Another mate try's to drag him out the bar and rips his shirt and belt off, and probably half his skin as he pulls him along the concrete and dumps him down the road, 20 mins later the ambulance turns up and took him away.
I don't always agree with violence unless it's used on people asking or are deserving of it.

What is it about this forum and it's deadbeat fantasists whose blatherings are only exceeded by their inability to express them.

Presumably, you're an alcoholic or just stupid?

But you're being a 'dead beat fantasist' by insulting someone on a forum (for no justifiable reason) that you wouldn't insult to his face.

Nice work mods, tidy up rather than solving the problem.

Some would say cowardly behaviour.

Originally Posted by Fozzy

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by Rigger

Forgot about this one a few weeks ago I walk into a bar and sit down and some Russian walks up and calls me a [at][at][at][at], I guess I sat on his seat ?. I reply something about shoving his head through the glass fridge.
Bar owner goes did he just call you a [at][at][at][at] and shoves him and the guy goes back trips and knocks his head and is out cold. Another mate try's to drag him out the bar and rips his shirt and belt off, and probably half his skin as he pulls him along the concrete and dumps him down the road, 20 mins later the ambulance turns up and took him away.
I don't always agree with violence unless it's used on people asking or are deserving of it.

What is it about this forum and it's deadbeat fantasists whose blatherings are only exceeded by their inability to express them.

Presumably, you're an alcoholic or just stupid?

But you're being a 'dead beat fantasist' by insulting someone on a forum (for no justifiable reason) that you wouldn't insult to his face.

Your incoherence does you proud. I rather think it obvious to even the dimmest TD member, including you but that may indeed be a stretch, that the incident to which Rigger refers never happened except, possibly, in his imagination.

Just when you thought TD couldn't get any worse this arsehole ramps it up a notch.

Whatsamatter thegent?

What on earth do you mean? How could my post make this place worse? He's talking utter garbage. What's wrong with saying that?

^ Attack mode is not attractive to some.