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    Obama, Kerry, Putin, Cameron, The Queen

    It's a complete diplomatic circus here in Paris, took me forever to return home from the office

    first I got stopped by a diplomatic cortege at a crossroad for The Queen to pass so she could go take the tea at the Elysee with Hollande and then go to Matignon Garden Party on the other side of the city

    then I got stopped by the diplomatic motorcade of Obama and Kerry, that one took forever, with SUVs with launch rockets on the roof, completely surreal, almost movie like. Every time I see a US president in Paris, their security details seem to get more ridiculous. I thought GW Bush Sr motorcade was crazy, but that one was surreal.

    Then it was Putin, quite long and impressive motorcade, but more discrete than Obama. He is having diner with Hollande later tonight after Hollande went to quickly dine with Kerry and Obama in the early evening in a restaurant in the middle of the city, hence more traffic jam.

    Putin tonight was the man, he was meeting everyone today, except Obama. It seems that Obama looks like an irrelevant dog in this diplomatic exercise.

    Tomorrow should get really interesting,

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    Obama was on channel 4 News tonight, giving advice to the Scottish electorate.

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    ^Of Fok! that's all we need, did he say Scotland should dump the NHS and introduce ObamaCare as a better alternative

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    Obama was on channel 4 News tonight, giving advice to the Scottish electorate.
    lol Funniest thing I have read all week. A snippet;

    “And we obviously have a deep interest in making sure that one of the closest allies we will ever have remains a strong, robust, united and effective partner. But ultimately these are decisions that are to be made by the folks there.”
    So oboma again being shunted out to express the words of the globalists. Firstly, I notice that he is very generous giving the Scots the freedom to decide where as in Crimea, the decision made by the "folks there" is not worth a toffee. If the Scots vote to leave, which I hope they do (not least because the shills in London and Washington do not want them too), I wonder if John Kerry will be out in Scotland talking about war. After all, not that dissimilar to Crimea....people want a new direction but it is against what London wants so time for people to die....in the name of democracy.

    I want to start a movement in Alaska. The people of Alaska should get together and decide to rejoin Canada. Make logical sense in so many ways, and this would really piss off Washington. Wouldn't it be glorious to see Kerry huffing and puffing, freezing his surgically lifted tits off, trying to tell the Alaskan's that it is in their interest for their kids to die in the middle east to support the US dollar

    Originally Posted by bsnub "No wonder I drive a tesla"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    It's a complete diplomatic circus here in Paris, took me forever to return home from the office

    first I got stopped by a diplomatic cortege at a crossroad for The Queen to pass so she could go take the tea at the Elysee with Hollande and then go to Matignon Garden Party on the other side of the city

    then I got stopped by the diplomatic motorcade of Obama and Kerry, that one took forever, with SUVs with launch rockets on the roof, completely surreal, almost movie like. Every time I see a US president in Paris, their security details seem to get more ridiculous. I thought GW Bush Sr motorcade was crazy, but that one was surreal.

    Then it was Putin, quite long and impressive motorcade, but more discrete than Obama. He is having diner with Hollande later tonight after Hollande went to quickly dine with Kerry and Obama in the early evening in a restaurant in the middle of the city, hence more traffic jam.

    Putin tonight was the man, he was meeting everyone today, except Obama. It seems that Obama looks like an irrelevant dog in this diplomatic exercise.

    Tomorrow should get really interesting,
    Uh uh, the America-hating, white-hating, Jew-hating Muslim Socialist doesn't like to be ignored; bruised galactic ego makes him unpredictable.

    Go, Putin, go...!

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    when I saw the title I thought butters was going to be telling us a bukkake joke

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    Surprised Phil the greek has not been picked up on a microphone somewhere, saying something juicy for the press.
    It does sound like a target rich environment for him. Frogs, Yanks Russkies and a Belgian shirt lifter. All crying out for a royal faux pas.

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    Indeed, Putin is the talk of town, despite being absent for G7, he was the center of attention

    what a political mistake to ban him from G8, it just made him the center of attention, and giving some political capital

    the G7 leaders sound like a bunch of spoiled kids,

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    hollande the lackey seems to know his place, behind her majesty and in full grovel mode.

    ever since their peasants did away with their royals, the french have always been, well, a second rate nation. no balls, no class, no soap.

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    that was Prince Phillips attending the door,

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    actually its the de gaulle lookalike doing the door.

    nice bentley, wheres hollands renault clio parked i wonder?

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    If Tony was there, he'd be arriving in a Holden ute with a drum of sheep dip in the back. Chauffeur driven by a guy with a blue singlet on.

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    Not too bad Butters. Rare event unlike the daily parade of yellow limos shutting down Bangkok streets to get to the Emporium.

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    D-day has symbolic significance, and indeed is the largest amphibious landing in military history. But it was a mere side show compared to Operation Bagration in the East. Hitler had already lost the war to the Russians, and most people- soldiers & civilians- that would lose their life in the war, were already dead.

    I say this, because in this orgy of back slapping emanating from our media hungry politicians, Russia hardly rates a mention. How churlish. So, to put the record straight-

    Objectively speaking, the real D-Day, the real “beginning of the end” for the Wehrmacht, and Nazi Germany, was the Soviet Operation Bagration. Consider the following:

    The Wehrmacht had 58 divisions in the west, of which only 11 were deployed against the D-Day landings. At the same time, however, the Germans deployed 228 divisions in the east. Thus, the Germans had almost four times as many troops facing the Soviets. And they had less than one-20th of that number in Normandy. That alone is an indication of where their priorities lay.

    At no time after June 6, 1944, did the German high command contemplate transferring forces from the east to the west to counter the Normandy landings.

    The initial D-Day landings were made with approximately 175,000 Allied troops against about 80,000 Wehrmacht soldiers. These figures were dwarfed by the strengths on the eastern front, where Operation Bagration, which was launched on June 22, 1944, pitted 2.4 million Russian troops, supported by 36,400 artillery pieces, 5,200 tanks and 5,300 aircraft, against the Germans’ Army Group Centre, which numbered 700,000 men, 900 tanks and 1,350 aircraft.

    The Soviets aimed to retake Byelorussia (now Belarus), and in the process, destroy Army Group Centre.

    Within a month of launching, Bagration had succeeded. In relentless lightning attacks, Soviet forces annihilated 17 German divisions and reduced another 50 to half-strength, which translated into a net German loss of 42 divisions. Army Group Centre was no more. Moreover, the Soviets had punched a hole 400 kilometres wide and 160 kilometres long in the German front. By September, they would be knocking on German-occupied Warsaw’s door.

    Meanwhile, the western Allies, wedded to Montgomery’s unimaginative tactics, were still mired on the Normandy beachhead. Only on July 26, 1944, did their attempts to break out succeed, under Patton’s — not Montgomery’s — leadership.

    Their breakout was aided by the fact that Bagration had forced the Wehrmacht to redeploy 46 divisions, including some from France, to the eastern front. Even then, the western Allies’ failure to close the Falaise pocket in August allowed the retreating Germans to escape. The Soviet juggernaut made no such mistake. Indeed, as Bagration showed, by the time the western Allies got around to launching their second front, which Stalin had been clamouring for since 1941, the Red Army almost didn’t need it.

    - See more at: Comment: Operation Bagration was the real D-Day - Op-Ed - Times Colonist

    This is in no way to demean the considerable sacrifice of our own soldiers, and indeed civilians in Europe, but I do not think extolling our own heroism should come at the expense of obscuring others heroism and sacrifice. One interesting little snippet is that more German soldiers were killed by Soviet partisan units behind the lines, than were killed by the combined British and US forces during the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    The people of Alaska should get together and decide to rejoin Canada.
    Rejoin? I think they would have to have been joined first.

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    It was joined to what became Canada since the world began. I think he meant Russia.

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    indeed, Russia was the major player in the WW2 conflict, how quickly we forget about it simply because they were missing in the beginning and did a pact with Hitler

    I suspect a US/UK conspiracy to diminish the importance of Russia in winning the war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus
    The people of Alaska should get together and decide to rejoin Canada.
    Rejoin? I think they would have to have been joined first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    indeed, Russia was the major player in the WW2 conflict, how quickly we forget about it simply because they were missing in the beginning and did a pact with Hitler

    I suspect a US/UK conspiracy to diminish the importance of Russia in winning the war
    At what point do you suck Putins cock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    indeed, Russia was the major player in the WW2 conflict, how quickly we forget about it simply because they were missing in the beginning and did a pact with Hitler

    I suspect a US/UK conspiracy to diminish the importance of Russia in winning the war
    For sure. Our history books don't mention that Russia kept the bulk of the German army busy in the East, leaving the Allies a few divisions to cope with in the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leemo
    For sure. Our history books don't mention that Russia kept the bulk of the German army busy in the East, leaving the Allies a few divisions to cope with in the West.
    They didn't? Mine certainly did.

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    In Russia and most of Russian speaking Eastern Europe, they think of WW2 as their war, not the allies. France still think they won WW2, simply because of the resistance.

    the truth is that Russia had sacrificed the most, and they paid in blood heavily.

    Who was in Berlin to seize Hitler Bunker ? that's right, the fucking ruskies !!!

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    it certainly helped creating Israel and use the death camps as some kind of political capital to conduct their own genocide of Palestinians

    definitely a winner for them,

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericson2u
    If losses determine the victor, the Jews certainly won the war. They lost 6 million people.
    The Russians lost over 20 million. You don't still hear them complaining about it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leemo
    For sure. Our history books don't mention that Russia kept the bulk of the German army busy in the East, leaving the Allies a few divisions to cope with in the West.
    They didn't? Mine certainly did.
    Mine told me we were brilliant, and we even got some help from the Russians.

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