Is pasta a noodle and vice a versa.

**Cujo** · 20-05-2014, 10:54 AM

I always thought of it as spaghetti and noodles and Pasta .

**Little Chuchok** · 20-05-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by cyrille

Pasta is made from durum wheat and originates, it's widely thought, from Sicily.
Noodles are made from rice flour (usually) and originate from China.

What sort of remotely sensible person would think when they're eating a cup of 'Mama' that it's pretty much the same thing as Spaghetti Carbonara?

Having done some research on this it seems that in the US they refer to spaghetti as noodles but, let's be honest, the day we start following the lead of Americans in things gastronomic will be a cold day in hell.

Or maybe we should be copying Thai and calling orange juice 'orange water', fish sauce 'fish water' etc. After all they contain water so they're pretty much the same thing, eh?

Counterpoint.
Historically, throughout Asia, noodles or noodle-types have been produced from every considerable flour one might think of [grains, legumes, tubers, plants, etc]. Including wheat......when Europeans were hanging from trees.

Asia Minor and Major, actually [Central Asia, ME]
And [again] diffused to the lower European civilisations [like everything].

No reason to spin a make-believe Eurocentric model upon influence and contributions - as it ain't true. Falacy.

Yep, all started by the Asians.

I always thought that Marco polo brought the noodley thing back to Europe??

**cyrille** · 20-05-2014, 12:07 PM

Along with mints, obviously.

**Little Chuchok** · 20-05-2014, 01:25 PM

^So the Asians did not start the noodle thingie? Who did then?

**david44** · 20-05-2014, 01:35 PM

Noodle of course is a product of the master race from plattedeutsch Nudel

History of Noodles Print E-mail
Who created the first noodle? The Chinese, Arabs and Italians have all laid claim but the earliest record appears in a book written between AD 25 and 220 in China.

Noodles have been a staple food in many parts of the world for at least 2000 years, but in 2005 the oldest noodles ever found, were discovered inside an overturned sealed bowl buried under three metres of sediment in Qinghai, northwest China. Scientists determined the 4,000 year old, long, thin yellow noodles were made from broomcorn millet and foxtail millet and show a fairly high level of food processing and culinary sophistication.

A noodle includes all varieties from all origins, but wherever they originated, noodles have maintained their popularity over the centuries and owe their longevity to a combination of being relatively cheap yet nutritious and filling, quick to prepare, can be eaten hot or cold, can be stored for years and can be transported easily.

The Traditional Japanese diet included huge amounts of rice. Even today A small bowl of rice is served with almost every meal, including breakfast. Originally from China, noodles have become an essential part of Japanese cuisine, usually as an alternative to a rice-based meal. Soba, thin brown noodles made from buckwheat, and udon, thick wheat noodles, are the traditional noodles, served hot or cold with soy-dashi flavourings. Another popular Chinese wheat noodle, Ramen, is served hot in a meat stock broth

Hakubaku - History of Noodles

LOS of course told them not to come

**Necron99** · 20-05-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

^So the Asians did not start the noodle thingie? Who did then?

Asians started it with rice (amongst other grains), others with grain, lacking rice.

The story of Marco Polo bringing pasta to Italy was an early 20th century advertising campaign by a spaghetti company.....
Marco mentions Asian noodles in his travels, and compares them to existing Italian pasta.

Same same Santa/Coke

**Little Chuchok** · 20-05-2014, 03:35 PM

The longest take-out in history.

Marco said to his wife "I'm just popping out for chinese..."

**Yasojack** · 20-05-2014, 03:47 PM

Leave the dumb fek comments to you, Noodles were known as cake in China.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Bogon

^Yaso unsure. Will mark that down as a NO...

6-8

Dumbfuckery is being counted?
Shame...

**Cujo** · 20-05-2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Leave the dumb fek comments to you, Noodles were known as cake in China.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Bogon

^Yaso unsure. Will mark that down as a NO...

6-8

Dumbfuckery is being counted?
Shame...

But they have a word for cake, and it's not noodles.

**Cujo** · 20-05-2014, 04:07 PM

Speaking of which, whatever happened to English Noodles?

The best noodles around here are the fat noodles the muzzies pull by hand out front of the noodle shops .
In a lamb noodle soup with coriander, spring onions and a spoonful of mixed cumin and chilli, delicious and tangy.

**david44** · 20-05-2014, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Koojo

Speaking of which, whatever happened to English Noodles?

gobbled by somtamslop?

Was just thinking thievery same thing as you posted it,he had a great picture of the guy climbing out the beg in Bangers during the 2010 shenanigans

**pseudolus** · 20-05-2014, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Koojo

The best noodles around here are the fat noodles the muzzies pull by hand out front of the noodle shops .

As an aside, ever since I had dengue fever, I get nauseous just at the thought of noodles now, especially the fat ones. Spaghetti and pasta I am fine with but noodles turn my stomach. Weird

**Merrimack** · 20-05-2014, 04:40 PM

Pasta is noodles and more

A noodle is pasta.

The Italian pastor likes noodles but he says they are a pasta their time.

**Yasojack** · 20-05-2014, 09:42 PM

They used to refer to noodles as cake, check it out.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Leave the dumb fek comments to you, Noodles were known as cake in China.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Bogon

^Yaso unsure. Will mark that down as a NO...

6-8

Dumbfuckery is being counted?
Shame...

But they have a word for cake, and it's not noodles.

**Cujo** · 21-05-2014, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Yasojack

They used to refer to noodles as cake, check it out.

Originally Posted by Koojo

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Leave the dumb fek comments to you, Noodles were known as cake in China.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Bogon

^Yaso unsure. Will mark that down as a NO...

6-8

Dumbfuckery is being counted?
Shame...

But they have a word for cake, and it's not noodles.

Don't know how I would check that out but I doubt it

**Yasojack** · 21-05-2014, 02:26 PM

Theres always google pretty easy really, the chinese made noodles long representing long life and being associated with birthdays, hence Birthday noodle cake.

**Necron99** · 21-05-2014, 02:32 PM

Oddly, the etemology of "pasta" also goes back to a root greek word meaning "paste, pastry or cake"

Though I doubt their concept of cake was anything like ours

**Rural Surin** · 21-05-2014, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Oddly, the etemology of "pasta" also goes back to a root greek word meaning "paste, pastry or cake"

Though I doubt their concept of cake was anything like ours

Borrowed from the Moors....

**Neverna** · 21-05-2014, 11:08 PM

No. Not the same.

**Necron99** · 21-05-2014, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Necron99

Oddly, the etemology of "pasta" also goes back to a root greek word meaning "paste, pastry or cake"

Though I doubt their concept of cake was anything like ours

Borrowed from the Moors....

Bit hard for sub BC Greeks to borrow from the Moors.....

**Rural Surin** · 21-05-2014, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by Necron99

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Originally Posted by Necron99

Oddly, the etemology of "pasta" also goes back to a root greek word meaning "paste, pastry or cake"

Though I doubt their concept of cake was anything like ours

Borrowed from the Moors....

Bit hard for sub BC Greeks to borrow from the Moors.....

Oh dear....
I hope you are not going to follow along the lines of how wordly influential the Greco-Roman civilisations were.

Never holds water.

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