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    Question Are you my African American

    just received this

    Interetingly like myself the author didn't waste time spellchecking Mor which comes from Ladino-Inerian Moro consonant with maroon or brown

    Can We Ever Really Reclaim the

    The English called Black people Moore's and then Black-a-Moore, before settling on Negro, a word which in Spanish means black. The English brought Negro with them when they came to the Americas, and from Negro came the epithet “Nigger.” After the word was created it was used for over 5 centuries in the United States of America to denigrate, belittle and shame the very population of people on whose backs this country was forged. Yet somehow, in the last 50 years, this word which carries incalculable pain of ancestors past, has become a basic fixture in the Black vernacular.

    Some say the softening of the ending, nigga/ah versus nigger, changes the meaning of the word. This logic seems ludicrous given that the origin of the word is clear; a slight dialectical change in pronunciation does not change the word in its entirety. Another argument is the idea that we can somehow “reclaim” the word.

    In theory, the idea of reclaiming the word may seem appealing. A world where that word no longer holds power over Black people, seems like something worth supporting. Is this possible given a word with such a long and complex history? Would it not be more effective to put efforts toward eradicating the word, rather than finding new uses for it?

    It is impossible to talk about the current colloquial use of the “N” word without talking about hip hop. Hip-hop culture has been the strongest vehicle for normalizing the use of the “N” word to date. Rappers and hip hop artists use the word in their lyrics, interludes and interviews. Given the tendency of the masses to emulate those in the lime light, the trickle-down effect into our communities should be expected.

    Children now grow up hearing the word, and in turn, use it themselves. Perhaps in a world where children grow up using the word, the shock and the hurt is removed if someone uses it toward them as an insult. However, are our children losing some of our history when we make the use of such a 'formerly' hateful word commonplace?

    The “N” word is still considered an expletive in the world of TV and radio, which is indicative of its power, considering the list of four letter words not allowed on TV and radio is continually shrinking. Radio and TV edits censor nigger right along with all the other words deemed most foul in the English language.

    When listening to radio edits of certain songs, that have been recorded with the absence of offensive language, versus the songs that are manually censored, sometimes so much so that whole chunks of the song go into radio silence, it makes you wonder, if it is possible to make a song without the “N” word, why keep it? What about the word enhances the track, more so than the word used in its place after it has been edited down?

    How can we reclaim a word that can still cause us pain when it comes out of the wrong mouth? Along with reclaiming the word, wouldn't we have to announce a world-wide, universal cease fire concerning the word, so that all parties across race lines would know, this word was no longer to be used to injure? Until that time comes when the word nigger has been neutralized and can no longer be used to diminish, demean or otherwise torment Black people, reclaiming it seems simply impossible.

    In the week when BBC DJ dumped for playing a song with the offending term.
    An era where black people can use the term but no others

    We have moderaion here but who should Police the English vernacular ,BBC,Bigots,PC America or good taste?

    Surely respect and intention are part of the equation and timig.

    I'm sure Guy Gibson didn't mean to offend when he named his dog.so should history be edited or seen as it was?

    Fawlty Towers Has Dago twat is this ok then or for Senor Rajoy
    Jim Davisdon?
    I used to have a job at a calendar factory.
    I got the sack because
    I took a couple of days off.

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    The original Brits were of Moorish decent.

    Everyone has a drop here and there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    The original Brits were of Moorish decent.

    Everyone has a drop here and there.
    you mean the ibero-celts or their complexion?

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    When the Ice Age glaciers, (across what is now the U.K), melted, the first inhabitants came from what is now northern Europe, ( there being no English Channel.) Where did you get the Moors from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN1 View Post
    When the Ice Age glaciers, (across what is now the U.K), melted, the first inhabitants came from what is now northern Europe, ( there being no English Channel.) Where did you get the Moors from?
    Real research, less what has been repeated to you over and again.

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    Is that the sang Real eh RS

    Moro Moresco is the origin of the Morris dancer folk myth in England but the folks who came from Africa to Al Ghari b and Al Andalus in various waves post Hegira

    were mix Berber Rif Almohads, Arabic al-Muwaḥḥidūn (“those who affirm the unity of God”) , Berber confederation that created an Islamic empire in North Africa and Spain ...


    3-4k years earlier darker med origin folks Tuath da Danae allegedly Greek but maybe Phoenecian,oddy an English Governor Cavendish assassinated in Phoenix Park murders

    The Park is today residence Michael Higgins,Uachtarán na hÉireann near to
    of US ambassador nearby Áras an Uachtaráin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    The original Brits were of Moorish decent.

    Everyone has a drop here and there.
    BBC Propaganda.
    Wankers invited C list celebraties to appear on a programme to trace their DNA.
    Surprise, every participant discovered that the BBC DNA results on every programme showed that they had Black DNA.
    Amazing. The cradle of Mankind originated in The U.K

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    Lucy in disguise?

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    So chaps I'm trying to keep up the pace seems all variants of n word unacceptabel for awhiteman in USA
    When I studies in Florida in 1970s Black was the word

    At some point African American seems to have evolved as word of choic
    but now I here rap and hip hp singers saying my niggah often spelled with an h?

    So is it one law for some,could should a white American be offended one black man calling another a name that I am not supposed to use?

    I understand the slavery issue and civil rights and good hearted unbigotted people do not mean to intentionally offend.

    If the Innuits want to be Innuits fine ,I cannpt help remember my teachers telling me about Eskimoes and Eskimo choc ices and my eski in Australia.
    However it is slow re-laerning process while I'm obviouslu up to speed with Myanmar Zimbabwe and Beijng having travelled a bit its hard for ld folks to be on top of everyting and I guess this is part of the conflict.

    Not that racism is or was good ,just reluctance to change and modernisers PC is sometimes hard work.I hope ne day we can all live and just treat others as we would be done by.

    Interstingly some of the most colour prejudiced men I have ever met have Thai wife who while not black is certainly as brown as my wife,who cares lifes to short,I guess those conquistadores and slavers belived in pure aryan blood and thehalf cate etc was tainted with inferior darker genes.

    Brazil is an interesting exception where despite the black generally being poorer ancestors from Angola etc with zero assets the mixed race child was allowed into society.

    I know I am opening a can off worms which should be in issues but I cannot,

    Islamaphobia I think is often misunderstood

    I have lived and worked for years in Muslim countries Malaysia Oman UAE KSA Qatar,

    In my exerience the way of life and folks are good and bad everywhere
    In Indonesia Bosnia London I never feel hostility from muslims
    Its also not an Arab thing as some Arabs are Christian
    Ive been to Iran and Afghanistan and muslim parts of China India etc I think the militancy is afew Arabian Peninsula Wahabi men who despite oil wealth are sexually frustrated hot and bothered and wish to export their frustration.

    SDEspite a few discomforts due to heat job,language never had a problem with people in Oman nor Qatar.Many colleagues in KSA were fine ,though mostly US or Uk edcuated to masters level so perhaps not runof mill Saudi and of course all the poor Muslim workers for Philippines B Desh Pakistan and Mangalore these were good kind men crushed into wage bondage to support vaste families and while humble and nervous they soon found I was equally homesick and out of water in the Magic Kingdom.

    Many of these issues may evaporate when the oil bounty/curse to finance extremism expires

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44
    Is that the sang Real eh RS Moro Moresco is the origin of the Morris dancer folk myth in England but the folks who came from Africa to Al Ghari b and Al Andalus in various waves post Hegira were mix Berber Rif Almohads, Arabic al-Muwaḥḥidūn (“those who affirm the unity of God”) , Berber confederation that created an Islamic empire in North Africa and Spain ... 3-4k years earlier darker med origin folks Tuath da Danae allegedly Greek but maybe Phoenecian,oddy an English Governor Cavendish assassinated in Phoenix Park murders The Park is today residence Michael Higgins,Uachtarán na hÉireann near to of US ambassador nearby Áras an Uachtaráin


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    The original Brits were of Moorish decent.
    I think you might be a little off there

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    The original inhabitants were Neolithic man at about 3000 BC, who came to Britain from several quarters - one northern element of Baltic origin, some from southern France, and a third "dominant" stock by way of the Atlantic and Irish Sea.

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    Thanks is this the |received view" from what sources

    Quote Originally Posted by MANICHAEAN1 View Post
    The original inhabitants were Neolithic man at about 3000 BC, who came to Britain from several quarters - one northern element of Baltic origin, some from southern France, and a third "dominant" stock by way of the Atlantic and Irish Sea.
    Interesting

    and evidence that GB predated the LOS with ladyboys

    "Red Lady of Paviland".[7] This is actually the skeleton (lacking the skull) of a young man of the Aurignacian culture, and may be the oldest modern human remains yet discovered in Great Britain and Ireland.[

    Wiki puts you out by about only 670,000 years

    "Thirty-two worked flints found in April 2003 at Pakefield on the Suffolk coast are evidence of the settlement of hominini in Britain from about 700,000 BC"
    Of course these may have been placed later

    In history The Thames and Rhine I was told at School were one river and the Baltic was largely under the retreating Ice certainly in theplaces I lived in Finland and habitation was barely 1100 years.There is ahndy map here

    Prehistoric settlement of the British Isles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Whereas at Lacaux and a plcae I visited in N Spain whose name escapes me near Tineo in the Canatbrian Mts they claim (Altemira is the cave possibly) humans were around avery long time ago c16000 BC yes 16k way before the pyramids etc

    Lascaux
    Is similar era around 15000 BC interstingly decorated like theTAB bookies in Newcastel with Horse frescoes I wonder if they were punters?

    As to England despite Uni there our Irish teachers told s on only of Firbolgs Tuatha da Dannae and Sullivan Bear as if he was around yesterday

    Having crawled in and out of evry listed menhir,tumulus and crolech from The West of scotland via Carnac the Basque mouts to Asturias and Galicia I assure these hardly Ibero Celts loved bleak windy places or perhaps that's all they were allowed on their permit to stay from the hairier folks that arrived relentlessy from the East Aryans,Matgars Alens Goths Vandals Polish Plumbers and occasionally from the west if election pending in Boston.

    Picts are a mystery and much may still be unearthed via carbon dating and better study of fossils,artefacts and dendrochronolgy,Take your Pytheas

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    Ryanair precursors the Baggies and Saggarmakers who fly N and South

    The Fir Bolg are first mentioned in the 9th century Historia Brittonum, where they are referred to as the Builc.[1] Much more about them is found in the slightly later Cét-chath Maige Tuired and Lebor Gabála Érenn (LGÉ). These texts say that the Fir Bolg are descendants of the Muintir Nemid (people of Nemed), who inhabited Ireland before them. All but thirty of the Muintir Nemid were wiped out. Of this thirty, one group flees "into the north of the world", one group flees to Britain, and another group flees to Greece. Those who went into the north become the Tuatha Dé Danann (or Tuath Dé), the main pagan gods of Ireland. Those who went to Greece become the Fir Bolg. The LGÉ says that they were enslaved by the Greeks and made to carry bags of clay, hence the name 'Fir Bolg' (men of bags). The Cét-chath Maige Tuired says that they were forced to settle on poor, rocky land but that they made it into fertile fields by dumping great amounts of soil on it. After 230 years of slavery (or oppression), they leave Greece at the same time as the Israelites leave Egypt. In a great fleet, the Fir Bolg sail to Iberia and then on to Ireland

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    what's the gist of this thread ?
    I'm too tired to read mega long posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    what's the gist of this thread ?
    That niggardly is a perfectly acceptable word and should be used as often a possible before is gets "stolen'

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blue View Post
    what's the gist of this thread ?
    That niggardly is a perfectly acceptable word and should be used as often a possible before is gets "stolen'

    Like gay,nosegay ,and the lovely Celtic song Step ye gaily off to Marie's wedding

    I guess if people are offended they are but does this mean ignorance will allow any word to be taboo if a minority albeit victimised chooses.

    In Ireland you can write [at][at][at][at] in a newspaper in England Fuck in the srious press and BBC after 9pm this is the niggardley behabviour of America that had slaves.

    Well if anything the Irish were mainly serfs ,The Black Irish of Moorish escent is another story but I think most of know whether a term will offend.

    Whether we want our vocabulary chosen by law or speak our mind and take the consequences.It's PC correctness gone mad

    Fortunately racism is the veryy raison d'etre of the elite here and we jeks,keks falangs etc must endure

    Who's your Flippa Mick,Dago Kyke,Wop,Polack ,Anglo but not then word

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    funny i didnt put Kvnt in brckets so theres some niggrdley censorbot on this thai website,is the sever in US ,isnigga banned too/

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    Etymologically, there is no relationship between the words " niggardly" and "nigger," although there are phonetic similarities. Lenny Bruce in his night club act used to ask his audience, " How many niggers, spics,micks, dagos in here tonight?" He attacked the PC onslaught from the other side of the spectrum i.e It's all about you being comfortable with the intention behind the words. Thus, that versatile word "bastard" can be used as; an insult, a compliment, or a term of endearment, as most Brits, ( or Beaker descendants as David would have it) are aware of.

    The danger is, that in giving way on "niggardly," where does it stop? "ass," "bitch," "estate agent!"[at]

    Finally, regarding the conjecture on the early inhabitants of Albion, might I suggest authorities such as Arthur Bryant or Keith Fielding. Wiki is such a lazy mans mode of research.

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    [QUOTE=MANICHAEAN1;2773862]Etymologically, there is no relationship between the words " niggardly" and "nigger," although there are phonetic similarities. Lenny Bruce in his night club act used to ask his audience, " How many niggers, spics,micks, dagos in here tonight?" He attacked the PC onslaught from the other side of the spectrum i.e It's all about you being comfortable with the intention behind the words. Thus, that versatile word "bastard" can be used as; an insult, a compliment, or a term of endearment, as most Brits, ( or Beaker descendants as David would have it) are aware of.

    The danger is, that in giving way on "niggardly," where does it stop? "ass," "bitch," "estate agent!"[at]

    Finally, regarding the conjecture on the early inhabitants of Albion, might I suggest authorities such as Arthur Bryant or Keith Fielding. Wiki is such a lazy mans mode of research.[/QUOTE


    splendid in fact unniggardly

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    Rap Artists don't seem to have a problem with this name, they use it all the time, have they stolen the name in the woodpile.

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    Is it banned yet, or renamed 'Ten little Subsaharan Africans'?


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    I always thought they were nigglets

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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post

    The danger is, that in giving way on "niggardly," where does it stop? "ass," "bitch," "estate agent!"[at]

    Estate agents...obviously. Dirty, low down, pond scum, shite heads, bullshitting sons of the devil.

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