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    War of the CHIMPS

    War of the CHIMPS that lasted four years reveals how human societies splinter | Mail Online


    Chimpanzees are often photographed huddled in groups grooming each other and chilling out in trees, but they are also capable of usurping dominant males in vicious power struggles and waging wars that last for years - they are one of our closest living relatives after all.
    A brutal four year war ripped through a group of chimpanzees in Gombe, Tanzania in the early 1970s, fracturing the community and leaving some members dead.
    Now scientists have taken a fresh look at the chimp conflict, which was recorded by primatologist Jane Goodall to reveal similarities in how chimpanzee and human societies break down.
    Dame Jane witnessed the violent and sustained fighting of the apes first hand and called it a war. She had set up a feeding station at Gombe to try and unravel why the conflict escalated from what was a harmonious group.
    Jospeh Feldblum of Duke University, North Carolina, has examined her field notes to build an in-depth model of the chimpanzee’s social network.
    Dame Jane made incredibly detailed notes detailing which apes arrived at the feeding station at the same time and from which direction they travelled, New Scientist reported.
    Previously, scientists had estimated the strength of relationships between the amount of time two chimps spent together, but now Dr Feldblum’s team has entered Dame Jane’s data collected between 1968 and 1972 into a model to track how the group’s relationship changed.

    Dr Feldblum told a meeting of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists in Calgary, Canada: ‘As soon as Leakey died they started splitting. He seems to have been a bridge between the northern and southern chimps.
    A younger chimp called Humphrey stepped into the power vacuum but he was challenged by two apes from the southern group called Hugh and Charlie.


    The apes followed wither Humphrey or the southern brothers and a four year battle began, resulting in the deaths of seven males from the brother’s ‘rebel’ group.
    While chimpanzees are known for their caring group dynamics, groups of Humphrey’s ‘army’ would sneak behind rebel lines, pick a target and beat him up.
    Dr Feldblum discovered that it was possible to predict whether the chimp would support Humphrey or become a rebel and that the situation witnessed in the jungle resembles a power struggle in human society.
    He thinks that groups of chimpanzees might explain how human-like societies evolve.

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    Interestinng stuffm

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    Interesting but not connected to human behaviour as the chimps have not been brainwashed by religious fanatics.

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    Sounds like Thailand....

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    watching Chimpanzees is like watching us, we have a lot to learn about ourselves by watching them

    a bit like watching Thailand politics,

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    Quote Originally Posted by chassamui
    Interesting but not connected to human behaviour as the chimps have not been brainwashed by religious fanatics.
    Religion is only the excuse for it, without it, we would still find new ways to fight with each other

    the role of religion was to stop the fighting, but that plan backfired

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebbu View Post
    He thinks that groups of chimpanzees might explain how human-like societies evolve.
    In the case of Thailand not very far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xanax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rebbu View Post
    He thinks that groups of chimpanzees might explain how human-like societies evolve.
    In the case of Thailand not very far.
    while we all laugh at how poor folks without 12 years of expensive education

    and yet so many of us also want to live in this splendid location and go thru the rigamarole of flights visas work permits, the clever Thais got here first and the males don't have to exert themselves much, and if they have a few sqauws they send them off to graze on the white/pink soon skint balcony jumping competitors.

    Thais have evolved saving face and other arts unknown or unvalued in the west,I have many friends graduated from Bristol,Monash and Florida bit none can pop a ping pong ball from their slot not wind elastic 50 times round a bag of coke in a second
    I used to have a job at a calendar factory.
    I got the sack because
    I took a couple of days off.

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    watched a thai dog unpick a knot on a plastic bag
    to get the grub inside.
    that impressed me. innit.

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    Don't let them take over.


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